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 02/03/2005 01:25:30 PM · #26
Originally posted by Spazmo99:


I could, but then I wouldn't be able to get you all riled up.


Fair enough.
 02/03/2005 01:36:28 PM · #27
Originally posted by bdobe:
All right... I didn't wanna get into the old and tired argument of Nikon vs Canon. However...


I thought we were just talking about the settings buttons? lol
 02/03/2005 02:36:59 PM · #28
but that's how it all starts and then the next natural step is complaining about how the 300d looks less badass than the d70.

Then we get into the real meat of the discussion when someone makes fun of nikon's red 'go faster' markings and claims that they could make them more visible on surveillance duty.

Then someone points out that the 300d is silver, again. And the whole sorry cycle goes on and on and on.

But we all have a great time doing it.
 02/03/2005 03:01:11 PM · #29
the only bad thing i have heard about the 1Ds MKII is the rediculous price tag attached to it.


02/03/2005 03:22:20 PM · #30
Originally posted by zarniwoop:
but that's how it all starts and then the next natural step is complaining about how the 300d looks less badass than the d70.

Then we get into the real meat of the discussion when someone makes fun of nikon's red 'go faster' markings and claims that they could make them more visible on surveillance duty.

Then someone points out that the 300d is silver, again. And the whole sorry cycle goes on and on and on.

But we all have a great time doing it.


When will people realize that the fact that the 300d is silver is a good thing, not a bad thing. Black was cool in the 80's...silver is cool now.

Sorry fellas.
 02/03/2005 03:47:22 PM · #31
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:


When will people realize that the fact that the 300d is silver is a good thing, not a bad thing. Black was cool in the 80's...silver is cool now.

Sorry fellas.


Urm, yeah. Keep telling yourself that.

only kidding :)
 02/03/2005 04:17:31 PM · #32
But seriously, I have a black tripod...so sux to any of you with a silver tripod!

Mental note:

cool tripod = black
cool camera = silver
cool lenses = white

oh boy...
 02/03/2005 04:19:11 PM · #33
Originally posted by Tirpitz:
I've just bought a Canon EOS 1DS mark II (not for my own money). I haven't receive it yet though.

My boss isn't to happy about me spending so much of the budget on a camera. I just want to be sure I have bought a very good camera. Have anyone heard anything bad about this camera?


I donât think anyone can answer that question accurately with the limited information you have given. Yes I can say itâs a very good camera but I cannot answer if you bought a very good camera for your company. The best camera does not always interrupt into the best results. I think you have already answered part of your question when you said, âMy boss isnât to happy about me spending so much of the budget on a camera.â That alone is a big drawback with that camera if your company or boss cannot justify the money for results. And here are a few more things to think about. Now the company is going to have to spend even more money on glass for the camera if you have not purchased it as of yet. And to make the most of that camera you are going to have to purchase IMO the best glass possible. If not it will be like having a racecar with a factory engine, looks good but cannot perform up to itâs potential. Another question is what type of pictures does your company need to take that would justify that expensive of a camera when IMO a 20D with the best glass would perform comparably.
I just hope you boss is not to upset because this could be a sticky situation. Will you have access to the camera for personal reasons? Was your decision based on you using it for personal reasons as well? Those are things that I think the boss is already thinking.
Just my 2 cents.

02/03/2005 04:21:25 PM · #34
yeah, back to the topic....i'm in professional purchasing, so this just blows my mind.

If the camera was purchased for company use, what is the company using it for?

What on earth would a company need a 1ds II for? Are they shooting their own billboards?

I would fire anybody that spent ten grand on something that was fulfilling a need that could have been met by something that cost 20% of that...but yeah, we need the whole story....
 02/03/2005 04:28:26 PM · #35
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
yeah, back to the topic....i'm in professional purchasing, so this just blows my mind.

If the camera was purchased for company use, what is the company using it for?

What on earth would a company need a 1ds II for? Are they shooting their own billboards?

I would fire anybody that spent ten grand on something that was fulfilling a need that could have been met by something that cost 20% of that...but yeah, we need the whole story....


I think you and I are on the same page here 'thatcloudthere'. I was a general manager for more than 10 years for a company that employed over 30,000 people nation wide. I was responsible for signing off on all purchases in the region I was responsible for, and I would be looking deep at a purchase like this unless like you said the company had a need for that type of camera. I just think we need more information before we can answer the question he has asked.

Message edited by author 2005-02-03 16:29:10.
 02/03/2005 05:00:54 PM · #36
I feel guilty for all the hijacking so I sought out some actual information.

in response to the posters request this forum will be useful.

//www.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1032

and this thread.
//forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=12083225

and this thread
 02/03/2005 05:07:21 PM · #37
So many answers in sush a short time.

I'll try to answer some of your questions.

I work at the marketing department at a multinational company as a Photographer/picture responsble. The company is in the dairy industry. The pictures I take is for advertising. Catalouges, brochures, ads, posters etc. The kind photos I take vary vey much. Today I've taken photos of a toy formula one car (for an ad). Tomorrow I'll take photos of a happy family (for a brochure). Next week I'll travel to take photos of resting cows (for a product leaflet). A month ago I took photos of child clothing. Next month I'll take photos of a $100000 robot (I hope I'll get my camera before that.). Some Studio shots.I also travel alot.

If you go to www.delaval.com you will see some of my photos (not the best ones)

02/03/2005 05:08:18 PM · #38
The reson I got to buy this camera is because (thanks to) the graphic designers is complaining that they want higher resolution pictures to work with (for posters and exhibition units etc.). My boss asked me how mush a camera with higher resolution cost. I sad approx: $8000. She said "No, way we will spend so much money". Then at the end of last year she found some spare money somewhere and told to "go and buy it before I change my mind". 0.2 sec later I bought it. Now I have a feeling that she have change her mind, or at least want to see some really good photos.

Did I do any research before I bought it? Not much.
Do I have good lenses? Yes I have very good lenses.
I have 4x2Gb 2x1Gb 5x256Mb flash cards
Storage is not a problem. I just got a new imagebank server.
Can you get a job where I work? Yes, but as a graphic designer.

Now that I see a review of camera somewhere I get scared that it will say: The camera is shit, don't buy it.

One magasin menton that there is "chromatic abberation" (not sure about what it is called in english) in high contrast areas.

That is why I wondered is you had heard anything bad about it. I hope the question sound less "silly" now.
02/03/2005 05:17:26 PM · #39
Well it seems you made a very good choice with the minimum of research. You lucky child.
 02/03/2005 05:18:44 PM · #40
Having just read the thread I agree with the early statements of "why would someone need a camera that costs this much" etc.

However, now hearing what you are using it for, although maybe a 1D MkII, or even 20D, would have done, I can also see why the 1Ds MkII is appropriate.

Marketing people always want to flasjiest adds, make their product look the best it can. Anything but a first rate photo lets them down. Sure, the difference in most cases between the cameras here is probably insignificant for most photos .... but for the few where the better camera makes the difference it is potentially worth big $.

If I were the marketing people, and had the $ available, I would want to equip my photographer with the best I could manage.

Now ... how do I convince this company to buy me a 1Ds MkII when we don't do marketing, never need to take photos of anything etc. "S'cuse me boss, can we get a 1Ds MkII just in case one day we decide to branch out into photography?"
 02/03/2005 05:23:11 PM · #41
Bjorn - you have great taste! The 1ds mark ii will be perfect for your job. It will produce very high quality images. Your graphics dept will be very pleased with you!

Best of luck

Dont worry about the rest of the comments - they are all very envious!!

:-p


02/03/2005 05:23:27 PM · #42
Originally posted by Tirpitz:
The reson I got to buy this camera is because (thanks to) the graphic designers is complaining that they want higher resolution pictures to work with (for posters and exhibition units etc.). My boss asked me how mush a camera with higher resolution cost. I sad approx: $8000. She said "No, way we will spend so much money". Then at the end of last year she found some spare money somewhere and told to "go and buy it before I change my mind". 0.2 sec later I bought it. Now I have a feeling that she have change her mind, or at least want to see some really good photos.

Did I do any research before I bought it? Not much.
Do I have good lenses? Yes I have very good lenses.
I have 4x2Gb 2x1Gb 5x256Mb flash cards
Storage is not a problem. I just got a new imagebank server.
Can you get a job where I work? Yes, but as a graphic designer.

Now that I see a review of camera somewhere I get scared that it will say: The camera is shit, don't buy it.

One magasin menton that there is "chromatic abberation" (not sure about what it is called in english) in high contrast areas.

That is why I wondered is you had heard anything bad about it. I hope the question sound less "silly" now.


It looks like you'll be generating large print ads, so you'll be definitely taking advantage of the high res files that the 1ds mk ii produces.

In general, I would say that you look elsewhere, other than the DPC forums, for more relevant info.

Over at FredMiranda.com you'll find more specific info.

There you'll find that a lot of 1ds mk ii owners are in absolute heaven -- the lucky bastards!!

Message edited by author 2005-02-03 17:27:15.
 02/03/2005 06:09:36 PM · #43
Bjorn, the 1Ds Mark II is the BEST DSLR available on the market today, rivalling Medium Format in quality and by far surpassinf 35mm film. Working in advertising you will need every bit of resolution available. For hands-on reviews of the 1Ds II check out Michael Reichmann's review on the Luminouis Landscape.

Your boss will not regret the purchase when she sees the quality of the HUGE prints you can produce with that camera. Remember that you will need the BEST lenses available to take advantage of all its potential.
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