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01/24/2005 01:46:25 AM · #1 |
Just perused the photos. Will vote on them tomorrow. Just wanted to say that there is a handful of magnificent shots there..a few real gems.
Looking forward to handing out a few nines and 10s, jealous as hell because they are so much better than my entry. But, I'll study them and learn.
Excellent job people.
P.S. You trolls can go to bed now! |
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01/24/2005 01:57:43 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by bongo:
Just perused the photos. Will vote on them tomorrow. Just wanted to say that there is a handful of magnificent shots there..a few real gems.
Looking forward to handing out a few nines and 10s, jealous as hell because they are so much better than my entry. But, I'll study them and learn.
Excellent job people.
P.S. You trolls can go to bed now! |
Yes, I've seen at least half a dozen that may qualify as 10s already.
A lot of good stuff here.
I'll sort em out and bump up my favorites in the next few days. This should be a high scoring challange.
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01/24/2005 02:07:14 AM · #3 |
Ihave the opposite reaction; with the exception of a reasonable number of exceptionally nice images, I find the rest of this challenge to be uncharacteristically lackluster. There's a HELL of a lot of guitars in here, btw :-)
I am, as usual, amazed that there are a few entries that ignore a fundamental aspect of the challenge; in this case, some actually show significant amounts of "face", and some are not of humans. I am pleased that there's very little tendency to push the envelope by showing faces on people the photographer did not consider to be the "subject" of his/her photo; I'd expected that from the tenor of the challenge thread before it closed.
An amusing sidenote, for me, is that more than a few of these images look like they coudl have been entered in the "Waldo" challenge; tiny people, insignificant dots in the overall scope of the image. I'm not sure how I feel about that; the challenge was to "photograph people engaged in..." and this makes me wish the people were MUCH more prominent in the context of the image, but that's just me perhaps...
Robt.
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01/24/2005 02:19:13 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Ihave the opposite reaction; with the exception of a reasonable number of exceptionally nice images, I find the rest of this challenge to be uncharacteristically lackluster. There's a HELL of a lot of guitars in here, btw :-)
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The lackluster stuff is par. I don't even consider them anymore when making an overall assessment of a challenge. I think I look more toward how many good entries there are and don't try to do percentages or anything. By the way, I think one of those guitars is excellent.
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01/24/2005 02:22:11 AM · #5 |
| Quite a few outstanding photos! And I must add that the lackluster stuff is not below par imo. I'm predicting a mid-scoring challenge. |
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01/24/2005 05:11:11 AM · #6 |
iss, I did it again.
I edit it my image on a too dark monitor... now the image dose not look anything like it at work when it looked good at home.
parts that look black are just far from it.
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01/24/2005 07:12:22 AM · #7 |
I agree with bear.
I have only looked breifly and have voted on a couple too. I am really disappointed with this challenge.
Its ok for people to think out side of the box, but when a challenge is worded to say 'humans' I expect there to be actual people in them and not animals. I also agree wthat there are a lot of photos that still show faces.
I guess I also expect the person to be the main subject or at least make the photo what it is, but there are several photos that have no relivance to people.
The point of a challenge is to 'be challenged' and I personally didn't see enough people in this challenge actually thinking of some unique and special.
But I do think there are some truely beautiful shots and some people did totally fantastic jobs with their images.
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01/24/2005 08:28:50 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by loz1:
I agree with bear.
I have only looked breifly and have voted on a couple too. I am really disappointed with this challenge.
Its ok for people to think out side of the box, but when a challenge is worded to say 'humans' I expect there to be actual people in them and not animals. I also agree wthat there are a lot of photos that still show faces.
I guess I also expect the person to be the main subject or at least make the photo what it is, but there are several photos that have no relivance to people.
The point of a challenge is to 'be challenged' and I personally didn't see enough people in this challenge actually thinking of some unique and special. |
My pic meets your above description.
I have a score of 4.166.
The one comment is favorable....
Can you say frustration?
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01/24/2005 09:01:03 AM · #9 |
What surprises me for the 'Faceless' challenge is that one of the more obvious subjects doesn't seem to have been captured. I thought for sure that the winner of this challenge would be a photo of a homeless person on the street. Could have met the challenge two ways because most people just walk past or look thru the destitute.
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01/24/2005 12:24:04 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
What surprises me for the 'Faceless' challenge is that one of the more obvious subjects doesn't seem to have been captured. I thought for sure that the winner of this challenge would be a photo of a homeless person on the street. Could have met the challenge two ways because most people just walk past or look thru the destitute. |
My husband said that same thing. Basically for the same reasons. If the weather would have been nicer here, I would've ventured out to get some shots like that.
My other thing is this: I am seeing alot of shots too that faces are showing, parts of a face are showing, or don't even have to do with everyday activities! Don't get me wrong.... there are some VERY beautiful shots here, but I don't think it's fair for some of them to get higher scores just for the look of the picture. I am voting this one very hard. If I see a face, or it don't fit the citeria...I I won't score it as high.
On the other hand, there are a few that I have been scoring high. They follwed the theme to a tee! Perfect setup or candid like shots.... these IMO are the ones that should win.
Maybe I am being a jerk... but it irks me when people try to sqeeze by the directions. ARGH!
OK, I am done ranting now! :)
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01/24/2005 12:30:15 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by nsoroma79:
or don't even have to do with everyday activities! |
But remember -- what may not be an everyday activity for you might very well be for someone else! |
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01/24/2005 12:31:36 PM · #12 |
Mine was 'reviewed' and i burned the face a bit to hide it. It is a bit 'set up' and i know that i may take a hit for that. I had two versions i considered...one was selectively desaturated. I liked it better, but i went with my 'reviewer's suggestion, as he has more expereince and higher avg score than me here. When this is all over I will be posting the alternatives to see what the general audience thinks.
So based on my thoughts on the submission end, to fit the challenge the pic should show no face AND depict an everyday activity, and i think the 'facelessness' part should be a prime focus of the pic (as opposed to the distant snow shoveler/skydiver/etc).
That is the challenge of DPC - figuring out how the masses will interpret the challenge and then how their votes will bear little relationship to that.
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01/24/2005 12:33:42 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by debitipton:
Originally posted by nsoroma79:
or don't even have to do with everyday activities! |
But remember -- what may not be an everyday activity for you might very well be for someone else! |
My entry is one of those, i fear. I went with a 'neat' idea i had, and did a fair but not outstanding impementation of it. I like my entry, even if the voters dont (4.16...) Even though i didn't pick a generaic everyday activity, my shot is not something foreign to the members of this site. I even saw another similar idea on the first page when i took a quick look!
My defense this time "My pic is not understood..."
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01/24/2005 12:37:57 PM · #14 |
I took my usual cruise through the entries last night and began voting this morning. When I started voting I had in my mind "everyday" activity...but then I realized the challenge reads "normal human activity."
It is normal to walk, to walk the dog, to sit (and read), to stand (and gaze or wait), to play guitar, to work, to take photographs of people taking photographs.... Granted the grand range of possible "normal" human activity is not well represented in this set of images--but it's not like everyone got together and said "hey! let's all enter the same subject!"
That said, this is the first challenge where I'm fully excercising the numbers at the bottom of the scale. |
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01/24/2005 12:48:25 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by KaDi:
I took my usual cruise through the entries last night and began voting this morning. When I started voting I had in my mind "everyday" activity...but then I realized the challenge reads "normal human activity."
It is normal to walk, to walk the dog, to sit (and read), to stand (and gaze or wait), to play guitar, to work, to take photographs of people taking photographs.... Granted the grand range of possible "normal" human activity is not well represented in this set of images--but it's not like everyone got together and said "hey! let's all enter the same subject!"
That said, this is the first challenge where I'm fully excercising the numbers at the bottom of the scale. |
I think I said it the wrong way. I meant when I thought of this challenge I thought of it as people doing anything... but that it would show them doing it... and you just wouldn't see their face. First thing I thought of was 2 old men on a bench talking. I dunno why? Just did.
Not just a body part here or a body part there. That is more what I was getting at. Not the fact that while someone may find walking the dog a daily thing... another may find it in the rail station every morning. People do different things they consider "everyday" and that is OK.
Maybe I am letting my take on the challenge effect my judgement. But, I do agree... "this is the first challenge where I'm fully excercising the numbers at the bottom of the scale."
Ugh. I will keep quiet now :(
Message edited by author 2005-01-24 12:50:35.
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01/24/2005 01:00:31 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by nsoroma79:
I meant when I thought of this challenge I thought of it as people doing anything... but that it would show them doing it... and you just wouldn't see their face....Not just a body part here or a body part there.
Ugh. I will keep quiet now :( |
I agree with your sentiment that there ought to be some activity (in the broadest sense) in the image.
This challenge, I'm voting like this:
1. Human?
2. Faceless?
3. Normal human activity?
-- No to one or more and I won't bring the image above a 5.
--Yes to all three, I'll begin the vote at 5.
4. Compostion?
5. Technical quality?
6. Appeal?
7. Does "facelessness" contribute to the image--in other words, does it add anything to the meaning or composition, etc.
--These last 4 are what moves my vote off the 5 + or -
I've definitely stopped voting until much later in the day, as I've lost my patience with objectivity for the moment.
(And now I'll keep quiet.)
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01/24/2005 02:28:47 PM · #17 |
Two lessons to learn from this challenge:
1. never process a photo on a laptop
2. if the point of the image is a little obscure and so requires some more careful looking - either don't enter it at all, or use a very clear title explaining it.
I violated both of these rules this time, and now pay dearly for that (4.8 and counting). My photo is way too dark, as I see now on my regular screen, and apparently most of people "don't get it", which is my fault with the title. |
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01/24/2005 02:48:12 PM · #18 |
| What whould ýou say is normal human activity? |
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01/24/2005 09:21:45 PM · #19 |
Still working my way through the photos..
Definitely some great shots in here. I have my pick of the top 3. I gave out a few 10's and 9's, a good deal of 8's, and the rest were spread around.
It will be interesting to see how the voting of this challenge turns out |
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01/25/2005 12:49:38 AM · #20 |
| I just went through the images and found some very nice ones. Unfortunately, and somewhat disappointingly is the fact that in spite of the clear challenge rules, some still submitted images with faces or parts of faces clearly showing, and others submitted photos of non-human subjects. I am showing no mercy. |
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01/25/2005 01:08:18 AM · #21 |
I am one of the wretched, soon to be damned for eternity, entrants who dared show part of a face.
My take on the challenge was "obscure enough of the face to make it unrecognizable". I see now from this thread (and even more from the voting) that not only did I get it wrong but blood needs to be spilt to avenge the challenge gods.
To this end I salute you all as I fall on my photographic sword...AAARRRGGHH!!!! :) |
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01/25/2005 12:11:08 PM · #22 |
Challenge states:
Photograph human beings engaged in normal human activity. The restriction - they are faceless. Their faces must not be seen.
I just got a comment saying it's a great picture but NOT faceless...Hello!! Anybody home? My pic shows a very common human activity and you CANNOT see the face of the person, so it IS faceless! Go read the challenge description again! *end of Rant*
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01/25/2005 01:44:19 PM · #23 |
all i can say is UGH!
a decent photo - missed the mark - headed for my worst score yet...
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01/25/2005 02:33:33 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by bongo:
Just wanted to say that there is a handful of magnificent shots there..a few real gems. |
I just skimmed through 20 or so and there were 3 or 4 that really impressed me. I can't vote, but I'll PM the photogs after the challenge. Very nice. |
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01/25/2005 02:48:18 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
I can't vote, but I'll PM the photogs after the challenge. Very nice. |
You can still leave a comment on a photo during the voting. |
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