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08/20/2002 01:26:22 PM · #26 |
Kavey- I understand what you are saying. Some people are new here but have been photographing for a long time such as you. But Heather's profile says that she isn't particularly good, but enjoys doing it. That leads me to believe that she hasn't been taking photos for very long(correct me if im wrong) and is therefore a newbie in photography. Most ppl would be more hesitant to respect Heather's opinion and more hesitiant to take, for example, your opinion since you have been doing it for a number of years. |
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08/20/2002 01:33:04 PM · #27 |
Meggie I totally see your point. But sometimes people who haven't been doing it long, and as of yet, haven't been able to achieve the best output of their own, are still very good at seeing what's the strengths and weaknesses are in other's photos. Sometimes people just have an eye. Anyway, I am really enjoying this challenges photos, and had already decided to comment every single one, if I can. I am working through that slowly and putting in a lot of thought. I'll be sad if people dismiss my comments just because I am new here or because I don't submit myself but if they do, so be it. If my comments are helpful for just a few people, I'll feel very pleased. Kavey |
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08/20/2002 01:35:08 PM · #28 |
Comments and how they are taken seem to be directly related to your submissions here..which is fair.
Who better to tell someone how to do well at DP Challenge than folks who do well at...DP Challenge:-)
Take any of the top scoring photographers here like John or Gordan or Connie or Tim or Arnit, etc,,,, They really know what it takes to make a good photograph and be competitive at this site. So their opinion will carry more weight.
But me. Even though part of my everyday job is telling photographers "nope, sorry..I need this done different" I have to prove my value in the work I do here. And that is very fair. I love it..it's challenging so to speak. I don't expect people to give me any more credit than what I earn in my effort and results here.
Very fun :-D
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08/20/2002 01:38:48 PM · #29 |
On that note, I will repeat a comment I made earlier about how people may be really good at telling stories, but couldn't write a book so save their life. I am excelent at taking photos and spotting photos but do not have the equipment to take professional quality photos. I have a degree in art and took every art class known to man. I think I have high experience in the art of photography, I just don't have the equipment to take the photos that I would like to take. That said, if I had SAID that I was experienced, would you respect the exact same comment more than if I say I'm not?? Strange how some people look at things. |
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08/20/2002 01:58:20 PM · #30 |
Your comments are honest and discreet, and given in the right spirit. I can't imagine anyone objecting. BUT...you can't please all the people all the time. There will always be someone who will object. I don't at all.
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08/20/2002 02:21:10 PM · #31 |
I agree with everyone else on this one. Please do not stop leaving comments. Without suggestions on how to make something better, it never will be. Thank you for all the time you spend on them. That's what this site is all about for me.
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08/20/2002 03:54:06 PM · #32 |
Add me to the list too. If I didn't have someone offering advise I would have never known the "tissue trick" and the value of filters to make a photo special. I am no "newbie" to the site but that doesn't mean I am an expert. There is no way for you to know who has what equipment when you are commenting.
I want to let everyone know that maybe we shouldn't always base how we should heed someone's comments on the quality of their past submissions. These submissions represent different techniques not always used by each photographer. When I go out and shoot for myself, I do a lot of macros and nature photos. My photos here do not represent my best work but I might still be able to help someone with focus or framing. |
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08/20/2002 03:55:38 PM · #33 |
Here' another way to avoid some complaints and save time:
When leaving a comment say something like "I believe that the light is too strong. If you would like my suggestion on how to prevent that, feel free to PM me" and sign your name. You would write less giving you more time to do other things (which will probably be DPC related) ;) |
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08/20/2002 04:03:05 PM · #34 |
Heather,
I also want to jump on the bandwagon here and thank you for your insightful comments and especially the time you put into making them.
I also want to second the request for a lighting tutorial. Lighting is something I often struggle with and is one of the two biggest problems I have with my photography (the other is not paying enough attention to my background when composing a shot). I'd especially love if you could touch on how to properly light a model or a portrait.
Thanks, Terry
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08/20/2002 04:26:30 PM · #35 |
Heather, I think your comments are great. They are wll thought out; they show that you actually studied each photo and that you care for the subject. You are great. Don't worry.
Furthermore, I need to say that I think every opinion here is as valid as the next because every person here is a member of each photo's audience. In that respect, it doesn't much matter if you're critiquing Ansel Adams; each viewer's role in viewing a photograph is to find beauty where their mind's eye finds it and to think about what could be improved. Sharing those insights is the dearest part of this web-site.
Also, Heather, you have a particular gift for wording things in a way that let the photographer know you composed your comment to a person and not to a photograph. I struggle with that at times, myself. I commend you on it.
Dawn |
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08/20/2002 04:33:47 PM · #36 |
Add me to all the favorable comments. Thanks HoneyB |
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08/20/2002 04:48:12 PM · #37 |
I really know nothing about lighting except what I've learned here at DPC and other web sites. I take all my close photos either outside, or in my kitchen which seems to be the best lit. I have an art room, but found out with my crayon submission that it's not the best place to take photos. I actually had my mother hold up a large painting canvas behind me for like 2 hours to block the sun, but still give me natural light LOL. I'm learning like everyone. I have lighting complaints on my pencil photo as a matter of fact. The reason will be revealed after voting, and it's quite a funny story. Point being, I'm not the person to do a lighting tutorial. Maybe I'll try to compile all the "tricks" I've learned and make a post. It's funny how different sites, and different photographers use different tricks to get a good photo. My 2 personal favorites are putting the cheapo science room magnifying glass to make digital zoom much clearer for people without other zoom or macro settings. And the trick with the thin paper or cloth. To help cut down on reflection. I'll see how many tricks I can find and share them in the forums. Thanks again for all your great comments to me in the forums. It has been helpful for me to learn to comment better!! Thanks. ~Heather~ |
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08/20/2002 04:50:15 PM · #38 |
Heather, I have taped tissue paper over my flash before to diffuse light :)
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08/20/2002 05:17:27 PM · #39 |
Heather,
IMO, any comment is way better than no comments. So just keep doing what you feel is the right thing, it's impossible to make everyone happy so just feel good because you know you mean well ans so do I.
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08/20/2002 05:40:57 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler: Heather, I have taped tissue paper over my flash before to diffuse light :)
LOL. I tried that with this challenge, had to figure something else out though, cause I used puffs plus and it made my screen all oily. Does anyone have any tips on cleaning a really tiny lens? Do q-tips work or are they too scratchy? Maybe we should start a "Post your photo taking cheats" forum. Could get funny. ~Heather~ |
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08/20/2002 05:48:24 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by hbunch7187: I tried that with this challenge, had to figure something else out though, cause I used puffs plus and it made my screen all oily.
You just made me laugh so suddenly that I spewed Coke all over my keyboard. LOL
Puffs Plus must be the new version of smearing Vaseline on the lens for "soft light".
Thanks for making my day!
Rob
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/20/2002 5:47:41 PM. |
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08/20/2002 05:51:57 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by hbunch7187: Originally posted by jmsetzler: [i]Heather, I have taped tissue paper over my flash before to diffuse light :)
LOL. I tried that with this challenge, had to figure something else out though, cause I used puffs plus and it made my screen all oily. Does anyone have any tips on cleaning a really tiny lens? Do q-tips work or are they too scratchy? Maybe we should start a "Post your photo taking cheats" forum. Could get funny. ~Heather~[/i]
LOL! Heather, try draping a lens cloth over the q-tip so the cloth is touching the lens, not the q-tip, but you can still get into all the nooks and crannies. :-)
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08/20/2002 05:56:04 PM · #43 |
Just wanted to post yet another comment in support of Heather's commenting style. If only more people left comments like you then people would learn and improve their photography that much faster.
John |
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08/20/2002 06:59:49 PM · #44 |
Heather You are doing a great job at commenting. Keep it up. It sounds like there are alot of people who enjoy reading them. :) I did the same thing with that kleenex, but on my sunglasses. That is to funny. :)) |
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