Got my first DQ request - "Movie Titles"

01/13/2005 03:11:50 PM · #1

..should I be flattered or upset? Either my photographic skills and post processing are unbelievable, or I submitted a poor image that looks fake.

I guess a little bit of both.. I just submitted my proof and SC would probably laugh at how simple I edited the image. Less than 1 minute in PS.

vince31874

01/13/2005 03:12:57 PM · #2

So I guess you should be flattered. :)

Sony DT 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Super Wide Angle Zoom

01/13/2005 03:24:10 PM · #3

I suppose.. I was just reading the Movie challenge scoring thread and someone mentioned 2 that should be DQ'd. One looking tacky and the other should be voted highly. I'm hoping I'm the latter ;)

JPR

Sony Alpha a55

01/13/2005 03:28:37 PM · #4

sorry Bran-O-Rama...I also got a DQ request and since mine isn't tacky it must be yours! :)

(just kidding of course)
i think it was rude for anyone to make such comments during the challenge in the forum thread and I assume both of our shots (and others that I am sure have also received DQ requests) are just so excellent that people can't believe we followed the rules. :)

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

01/13/2005 03:48:59 PM · #5

just a note -- we've received alot of dq requests for this challenge. not sure why.

JPR

Sony Alpha a55

Sony DT 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Super Wide Angle Zoom

01/13/2005 04:17:20 PM · #6

Originally posted by karmat:

just a note -- we've received alot of dq requests for this challenge. not sure why.

so that's why it's taking so long. :)
just curious but while the request is being validated is the image still up for voting?

Artan

Canon Digital IXUS v3

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/13/2005 04:36:51 PM · #7

Originally posted by JPR:

Originally posted by karmat:
just a note -- we've received alot of dq requests for this challenge. not sure why.

so that's why it's taking so long. :)
just curious but while the request is being validated is the image still up for voting?

I believe that it has been stated in a number of previous threads that images remain available for voting, during the validation of original process...

Message edited by author 2005-01-13 16:37:09.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

01/13/2005 04:47:08 PM · #8

Originally posted by Artan:

Originally posted by JPR:

Originally posted by karmat:
just a note -- we've received alot of dq requests for this challenge. not sure why.

so that's why it's taking so long. :)
just curious but while the request is being validated is the image still up for voting?

I believe that it has been stated in a number of previous threads that images remain available for voting, during the validation of original process...

...and that you should vote on it as if it is legal.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

01/13/2005 05:01:37 PM · #9

Originally posted by Bran-O-Rama:

If you seriously applied USM with a diameter of FIFTY (and not 5.0) you should be DQ'd! Take two minutes next time ... : )

01/14/2005 03:19:00 AM · #10

Originally posted by GeneralE:

If you seriously applied USM with a diameter of FIFTY (and not 5.0) you should be DQ'd! Take two minutes next time ... : )

Why is this so strange? You've never heard of the trick to increase contrast by applying a low amount (10%) of high RADIUS (50px)? Some people even go (40/200/20) or really high values with a bit of threshold.

If you followed my directions exactly, you would've got pretty much the exact (99.9999% accuracy) same image as I submitted although color may have been different by a smidge.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

01/14/2005 03:23:29 AM · #11

Nope -- I've usually played with lower numbers, especially for smaller (web-sized) images, although I've sometimes used repeated applications if I want a "special" effect. My personal preference has typically been for less sharpening than a lot of people like.

I'll have to try your technique -- for what type of image do you find it most useful?

Mattel Barbie Photo Designer Digital Camera

01/14/2005 04:56:35 AM · #12

The generic values of 10/50/0 works as a contrast boost useful on practically any image. It's a trick used to eliminate that washed out look or "hazy" appearance of digital images. Adds a subtle amount of contrast to make the image appear more natural the way the eye sees it.

Use the default 10/50/0 and tweak the amount (10%) up or down to taste or whatever suits the image. Apply, right before your normal sharpening, prior to saving for web.

Message edited by author 2005-01-14 05:07:03.

Jinjit

01/14/2005 05:30:59 AM · #13

I also use those values of USM on many images as a contrast boost rather then a sharpening method. I think it does a better work then the contrast bar itself.

I never thought it might be un-acceptable for basic editing, for it is used on the entire image and it definately do not change parts of it.

Should I think again about this one?

nsbca7

01/14/2005 05:43:09 AM · #14

Originally posted by Bran-O-Rama:

I suppose.. I was just reading the Movie challenge scoring thread and someone mentioned 2 that should be DQ'd. One looking tacky and the other should be voted highly. I'm hoping I'm the latter ;)

The one I said I would give a good score if it was validated was and I did. The one I said was tacky is gone. I left a messege with both.

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

01/14/2005 07:19:54 AM · #15

Originally posted by GeneralE:

The technique he's referring to actually produces very little sharpening -- it has the effect of producing localized contrast adjustments. There's an excellent tutorial on the technique at Luminous Landscape.

-Terry

e301

01/14/2005 07:40:00 AM · #16

I've just tried this on a shot of my parents new hound that I took last weekend - it was a shot on a heavily overcast day, on full auto on the little Fuji, and needed very little post-processing, but did lack a touch of graduation across the dog's facial areas - just missed some of the three-dimensionality. Radius 50, Strength 20, Clipping 0 (PSP users be aware that the controls are in a different order from those in PS), and it has a very useful effect, pleasing, and functional even at 100% viewing - though I would recommend folks are careful using any higher strength, or thos blocky USM artefacts start to appear.

Thanks for pointing it out ... very useful stuff.

Ed

Prof_Fate

01/14/2005 10:01:31 AM · #17

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Bran-O-Rama:
..should I be flattered or upset? Either my photographic skills and post processing are unbelievable, or I submitted a poor image that looks fake.

I guess a little bit of both.. I just submitted my proof and SC would probably laugh at how simple I edited the image. Less than 1 minute in PS.

If you seriously applied USM with a diameter of FIFTY (and not 5.0) you should be DQ'd! Take two minutes next time ... : )

To quickly de-haze a pic, try USM of 35-45%, radius 60-80 range with a t-hold of 1.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

01/14/2005 10:25:02 AM · #18

Originally posted by Jinjit:

No, using USM is fine ... I was being sarcastic when I said earlier it "should" be DQ'd. I thought using it this way would have a markedly different effect than it actually does.