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 01/13/2005 10:35:57 AM · #26
Originally posted by jonpink:
Also, we don't really get shots like that on DPC so it never really comes into play :D

Those kinds of shots, while strong and serious, have a zero chance on success on DPC, imo. That's why we don't get them, not because people can't shoot them.
 01/13/2005 10:39:24 AM · #27
Originally posted by photomayhem:
I think they should track who gives 1's and 2's and then fry those people. I'm sure the photos that the people who gives 1's and 2's suck just as bad as they do for giving out those scores!!

This degree of mayhem is prohibited by site rules.

The rules also allow any voter to apply any vote from 1-10 to any photo for any reason except within a deliberate pattern of vote manipulation, and we do deal with those people without the assistance of vigilantes.

I think more discussion of the photos and less discussion of the voters would be a positive trend.
 01/13/2005 10:47:16 AM · #28
Dang! A peace-loving general. What are the odds?
 01/13/2005 10:58:35 AM · #29
"In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnamity; and in peace, goodwill."

That kind of general :-)

Robt.

Message edited by author 2005-01-13 11:07:54.
 01/13/2005 11:07:36 AM · #30
If there's really a feeling that some people may be mis-reading the scale, consider setting it not like this :

(bad) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 (good)

with the bad & good faded-out grey, but instead:

(lousy)...................(terrific)
......1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

with the 'defining terms" more clearly visible. (dots added as spacers, HTML won't allow use of multiple spacebar here)

Robt.
 01/13/2005 11:15:06 AM · #31
Most of the time, on obviously well taken images it's just sad people trying to influence votes - if they knew that it hardly changes the score at the end of the day, they would probably stop.

I don't know, but everyone has it, everyone gets 1's and 2's so it's pretty fair at least :D.

You could look at the top 20 and none are justifiably a 1 (probably haven't looked)

01/13/2005 11:18:08 AM · #32


83 tens, 7 ones. Can't win 'em all.
 01/13/2005 11:20:32 AM · #33
Originally posted by scalvert:


83 tens, 7 ones. Can't win 'em all.


American haters? :D

Anyone clever enough to work out how that effected the score?
 01/13/2005 11:25:07 AM · #34
I think below a 3 should require a comment. But then those people will just give you 3's.
 01/13/2005 11:31:36 AM · #35
Originally posted by bbower1956:
I think below a 3 should require a comment. But then those people will just give you 3's.


I think for people who vote honestly, 1's are reserved for the truly shockingly bad, in which case finding something to say whilst not being labeled a 'troll' is pretty hard.

I used to comment on every shot, be it 1's or 10's and the number of angry emails I received got to a point whereby I stopped commenting.


01/13/2005 11:39:32 AM · #36
I want to thank you all for trying to help me understand this voting issue :). At the end I guess I will have to learn not to worry about it :)
But I still think Solitude doesn't deserve any 1 ;)
 01/13/2005 11:43:46 AM · #37
Originally posted by Arancha:
I want to thank you all for trying to help me understand this voting issue :). At the end I guess I will have to learn not to worry about it :)
But I still think Solitude doesn't deserve any 1 ;)


Be content in knowing that you're not alone :)
 01/13/2005 12:02:55 PM · #38
Originally posted by Britannica:
What wasn't liked could be anything from duotones to crashing waves..

Hehehe - no duotones in this one for once.

Probably didn't see Waldo"ette" or had their sunglasses on at night while voting.
01/13/2005 12:44:09 PM · #39
Originally posted by BradP:
or had their sunglasses on at night while voting.


Remember, too, that darkish images sometimes suffer "Poor Voter Monitor Calibration Syndrome".
 01/13/2005 12:47:59 PM · #40
Originally posted by emorgan49:
Originally posted by BradP:
or had their sunglasses on at night while voting.


Remember, too, that darkish images sometimes suffer "Poor Voter Monitor Calibration Syndrome".

That actually was what I was referring to without actually saying their monitors were whacked, but then again not everyone understands my "out in left field" sense of humor. (I don't either sometimes - it's that odd) LOL
 01/13/2005 12:53:12 PM · #41
I was just translating for you!
 01/13/2005 01:19:51 PM · #42
Any talk of "not understanding a vote" on what is a mostly subjective matter -- one's aesthetic taste -- is, clearly, fruitless.

For example, the lowest rated photo in DPC () received an 8, a 9 and a 10, while garnering 176 1s; why, its even been selected by two DPC members as a Favorite Pic.

I, like most DPCers I presume, first judge an image on the "emotional" impact that it makes on me; I then judge the picture on technical merits; and, lastly, I ask myself if the image meets the specific challenge.

Message edited by author 2005-01-13 16:13:39.
 01/13/2005 03:40:42 PM · #43
Originally posted by bear_music:
"In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnamity; and in peace, goodwill."

That kind of general :-)

Robt.



Actually, I was a CO, and not the kind who gave the Captain orders ...
 01/13/2005 03:54:53 PM · #44
Originally posted by bdobe:
Any talk of "not understanding a vote" on what is a mostly subjective matter -- one's aesthetic taste -- is, clearly, fruitless.


Understanding a particular vote is definitely impossible - I agree with you. It's best not to try to understand individual votes. Instead, look at the distribution of votes for any particular picture, and not the outlyers. The distribution will always represent the "truth" about the picture, such as truth is. Any distribution will always have outlyers at either end - people who scored a wonderful picture a 1 or a 2, and people who scored a miserable pile of crap a 9 or a 10. But those will always be only a few. It's a completely expected way for group behavior to play itself out.
 01/13/2005 11:55:26 PM · #45
Please yourself first, as you are what counts - everything here is virtual and "goes away" when the power goes off.


hey brad i like this, can i use it?
 01/14/2005 11:25:55 AM · #46
Originally posted by jonpink:

I used to comment on every shot, be it 1's or 10's and the number of angry emails I received got to a point whereby I stopped commenting.


I'm with you there. I started giving honest oppinions about certain photos I rated low and received a lot of angry emails too... I pretty much don't want to leave any comments now...
 01/14/2005 11:33:09 AM · #47
I for one would like the constructive neg. comments. When I do well, the good comments I enjoy, the constructive comments is where I learn.
I just had a great learning experience in Bokeh, couple of comments beat me up, and they are right on the money.

"Its all in the eye of the be holder"

Message edited by author 2005-01-14 11:34:27.
 01/14/2005 11:44:42 AM · #48
Originally posted by photomayhem:
Originally posted by jonpink:

I used to comment on every shot, be it 1's or 10's and the number of angry emails I received got to a point whereby I stopped commenting.


I'm with you there. I started giving honest oppinions about certain photos I rated low and received a lot of angry emails too... I pretty much don't want to leave any comments now...


They have a little feature now in My Preferences that allows you as a commenter to stay anynomous until the chalenge is finished the voting phase.

Hide My Name
Hide my name on comments I make until voting is over.

It's a little check box.

I don't like getting irate PMs either, but I think if the person waits till after the chalenge and sees the score they recieved they will be much less offended by any comment you might have made about thier picture.
 01/14/2005 11:50:42 AM · #49
Originally posted by nsbca7:
I don't like getting irate PMs either, but I think if the person waits till after the chalenge and sees the score they recieved they will be much less offended by any comment you might have made about thier picture.

Well said. This captures, for me, the logic of making my comments anonymous during challenges.
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