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01/01/2005 12:46:49 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti: Originally posted by deapee:
Besides...if America didn't protect Canada, some terrorist nation would come and take it over. |
Excuse me...
but your arrogance is showing. |
How is that arrogance? It's fact. And the only reason America won't let Canada get taken over by another country is because we share a long border with Canada. If some huge earthquake happened, and canada became detached from America, and floated to the other side of the world, I'm sure America would let anyone who wanted to, their way with Canada...actually, no, America wouldn't -- because we'd rather protect other countries and give our citizen's tax dollars to help other countries instead of fixing the things here in America that need fixing -- then the other countries in return, just call America selfish.
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01/01/2005 01:18:32 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by deapee: Originally posted by cpanaioti: Originally posted by deapee:
Besides...if America didn't protect Canada, some terrorist nation would come and take it over. |
Excuse me...
but your arrogance is showing. |
How is that arrogance? It's fact. |
Fact?!
Originally posted by deapee: And the only reason America won't let Canada get taken over by another country is because we share a long border with Canada. If some huge earthquake happened, and canada became detached from America, and floated to the other side of the world, I'm sure America would let anyone who wanted to, their way with Canada...actually, no, America wouldn't -- because we'd rather protect other countries and give our citizen's tax dollars to help other countries instead of fixing the things here in America that need fixing -- then the other countries in return, just call America selfish. |
The trouble with that comes when those other countries have different ideas of "protection" and "helping"...
I feel about Americans kind of like I feel about cats. If you were to ask me if I like cats, I'll say "No, I'm more of a dog person". That said, I've known some pretty cool cats, and when I meet a new cat I don't automatically decide I'm not going to like it just because it's a cat. I've lived in the US and met lots of great people, but I still maintain that (in general) there are fundamental differences between Canadians and Americans. That's not to say that's a bad thing, or that we're always right, but there is a reason why most Canadians go through great pains not to be mistaken for Americans when they travel abroad... ;)
I think the sibling analogy is pretty appropriate. So no hard feelings bro, and learn to spell eh?
Message edited by author 2005-01-01 13:19:36. |
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01/01/2005 01:54:18 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by jduffett: learn to spell eh? |
Didn't realize this was a spelling B. Sorry. Which word did I not spell correctly?
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01/01/2005 02:02:48 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by deapee: Originally posted by jduffett: learn to spell eh? |
Didn't realize this was a spelling B. Sorry. Which word did I not spell correctly? |
Sorry, that wasn't directed at you specifically... I was referring to all of our neighbours south of the border. ;)
Message edited by author 2005-01-01 14:04:23. |
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01/01/2005 03:10:07 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by jduffett: Originally posted by deapee: Originally posted by jduffett: learn to spell eh? |
Didn't realize this was a spelling B. Sorry. Which word did I not spell correctly? |
Sorry, that wasn't directed at you specifically... I was referring to all of our neighbours south of the border. ;) |
So you're saying that ALL Americans need to learn how to spell?
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01/01/2005 03:27:43 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by deapee: Originally posted by jduffett: Originally posted by deapee: Originally posted by jduffett: learn to spell eh? |
Didn't realize this was a spelling B. Sorry. Which word did I not spell correctly? |
Sorry, that wasn't directed at you specifically... I was referring to all of our neighbours south of the border. ;) |
So you're saying that ALL Americans need to learn how to spell? |
It was a J-O-K-E. Sheesh...
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01/01/2005 03:33:43 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Jinjit: Originally posted by alionic: I find it strange that most neighbouring countries aroud the world have this "pet hate" going on
Australia/New Zealand
Japan/Korea
USA/Canada
England/Scotland
France/Spain
Isreal/Iraq
Wouldn't it be nice if the world made a new year resolution to start talking and stop fighting. |
LOLOL !!!! I could not stop laughing !!!
Israel and Iraq have a pet-hate relationship ??!?! OMG I need to sit down and relax...
If you really are looking for a pet-hate relationship, then maybe, just maybe you could put Egypt next to Israel. But Iraq?! no pets here. I can assure you that! And I do avoid the politics...
edit: typos |
I guess some people find it hard to notice sarcasm when they see it.
I am quite sure that most neighbours have serious issues with each other but I was remaining quite light about the whole thing. OK, England and Scotland issue is more of a passionate hate to the English from the Scots and I believe they have every right to hate the English too. The Japan Korea thing, yes Im sure the Koreans have every right to hate the Japanese too but in saying that I believe the Japanese have suffered as a result of war more than any other country on this planet and still do but then maybe im a bit bias as is my SA/Korean friend, it was never my intention to start sparks. I then ended up by saying it would be great if we could all start talking and stop fighting but that is a dream that ends in the morning and will possibly never ever come true.
I as a person do not hate anyone or any one nation (apart from maybe the terrorist nation) even given all the politics etc it is still hard for me to HATE my fellow humans allthough they/we are the virus that infects this earth I am a part of that virus as are us all, think about this.
this land is one land and a handfull of people believe it is their right to carve it up into sections and then fight about it in the name of god. Makes me glad im a photographer(not to be taken literally).
happy new year. |
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01/01/2005 03:34:25 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by deapee:
You just lumped ALL of America together in that one statement. I, personally don't care -- but I guarantee there are just as many Canadians that don't deal well with criticism as there are Americans and Germans and Norweigans and ... you get the picture.
Besides...if America didn't protect Canada, some terrorist nation would come and take it over. |
I like the first paragraph... The second? Canada does not need to be protected. Why? We don't make ourselves ennemy with anybody. We are not trying to rule (or police it as I've heard before) the world. Canadians are respected in every country. No one's after us! We don't need protection...
Message edited by author 2005-01-01 15:50:27.
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01/01/2005 03:40:37 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by deapee: Originally posted by cpanaioti: Originally posted by deapee:
Besides...if America didn't protect Canada, some terrorist nation would come and take it over. |
Excuse me...
but your arrogance is showing. |
How is that arrogance? It's fact. And the only reason America won't let Canada get taken over by another country is because we share a long border with Canada. If some huge earthquake happened, and canada became detached from America, and floated to the other side of the world, I'm sure America would let anyone who wanted to, their way with Canada...actually, no, America wouldn't -- because we'd rather protect other countries and give our citizen's tax dollars to help other countries instead of fixing the things here in America that need fixing -- then the other countries in return, just call America selfish. |
It's unfortunate that you have to explain US goodwill throught such an example that makes no sense and is virtually impossible... Earthquake theory? Most unlikely...
"...because we'd rather protect other countries and give our citizen's tax dollars to help other countries instead of fixing the things here in America that need fixing..." that's another thing other countrys don't like about America, being told what to do by a country that have a lot of unresolved issues themselves. Your crime rate is humongous, you live in a society that brainwashes you to fear everything... You guys need to relax and make a better home before trying to impose it to the rest of the world...
Peace!
Message edited by author 2005-01-01 15:55:10.
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01/01/2005 03:58:59 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by grandmarginal: You guys need to relax and make a better home before trying to impose it to the rest of the world...
Peace! |
I agree with that statement 100%. Stop giving our money and time to other countries and fix here first!
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01/01/2005 04:04:05 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by Beagleboy: It was a J-O-K-E. Sheesh... |
I guess he didn't get my Canadian sense of humour! |
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01/01/2005 04:04:49 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by petrakka: "The US is a powerful nation that could be a great leading nation but falls short because of greed and arrogance." that statement doesnt make u a liberal. its just if you dont live here its not your place to say, news bents in other countries generally don't do the great people in the u.s. justice. |
I don't see why not living in the US makes it not my place to have an opinion about the US.
As far as news being bent in other countries, I'm sorry to say this but if you think that Fox News and CNN not bending the news, you're a very sad person.
Originally posted by deapee: Originally posted by _Armadildo_: Criticism is something that the US has difficulty dealing with. |
You just lumped ALL of America together in that one statement. I, personally don't care -- but I guarantee there are just as many Canadians that don't deal well with criticism as there are Americans and Germans and Norweigans and ... you get the picture.
Besides...if America didn't protect Canada, some terrorist nation would come and take it over. |
I didn't lump all of the USA (America is a continent by the way, not a country) together... Like I said, I have many friends who live in the US.
But, as a nation, the US doesn't take criticism too well and the proof was when Canada didn't support you in the last war. I mean, look at this
//www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes.php?box_id=51208&f_id=1211
and tell me that it ain't arrogant... Same thing happened to Germany and France.
You mean to tell me that such comments depicts the US as an open minded country?
Just the fact that this kind of crap would be broadcasted on national TV goes a long way to show the ignorance and arrogance of the country.
Also note that going over the United Nations is not well perceived and if you tell me that it's not you but your governement who did that, I'd like to remind you that wen you went to war in Iraq, 70% of your population supported those actions.
As far as the US protecting Canada from terrorists... We don't need protection from terrorists since we didn't piss off the rest of the planet.
And believe me when I say that the US "protects" Canada simply for monetary reasons (import, export, natural ressources).
Both countries need each other to move forward. The difference between Canada and the US is that we recognize that while you think that you could continue living the life you're living without us being here.
Anyways, once again, talking about the USA's flaws will bring me nowhere because for true and proud Americans, the USA has no flaws and is always right.
On that note, this should be my last post on the subject.
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01/01/2005 04:07:27 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by deapee: Originally posted by grandmarginal: You guys need to relax and make a better home before trying to impose it to the rest of the world...
Peace! |
I agree with that statement 100%. Stop giving our money and time to other countries and fix here first! |
Don't stop helping, it's a wonderful value... But stop dictating (ouch, this may offend some... Oh well, strong words for strong convictions!)
Message edited by author 2005-01-01 16:10:48.
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01/01/2005 04:10:35 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by _Armadildo_: I didn't lump all of the USA (America is a continent by the way, not a country) together...
Just the fact that this kind of crap would be broadcasted on national TV goes a long way to show the ignorance and arrogance of the country.
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So let me get it straight...You didn't lump all of the USA together, but the country is ignorant and arrogant?
See, it's statements like that that make me hate people like you. I personally don't care and have never called anyone's country ignorant or arrogant. If I have a problem with you, I'll tell you -- but I'm not going to sit here and call your country ignorant.
This is the stuff that we Americans deal with every day on message boards on the internet. We have to sit and listen to everyone pick and pick at what's wrong with the US. Leave us to say what's wrong with us and worry about yourselves. For God's sake, quit calling my country ignorant and arrogant. If you don't like my country then you don't have to come here...and to be quite honest, I don't want you here.
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01/01/2005 04:14:45 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by deapee: Leave us to say what's wrong with us and worry about yourselves. |
If only you were the president, could practice what you preach! I'd like to see the USA do the same with the rest of the world...
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01/01/2005 05:29:23 PM · #41 |
Deapee,
Just for the record, the man was making a joke regarding differences in how Brits/Canadians and Americans spell the "king's English." He wasn't criticizing (or "criticising") anyone...
"Favour" vs "favor", "Labour" vs "labor", all sorts of other areas of difference. They talk funny too :-)
Robt.
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01/01/2005 05:37:52 PM · #42 |
OK, at least one post in this thread is treading desperately close to personal attack. Let's step back, cool off, and try not to hijack threads, especially with political debates.
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01/01/2005 05:39:17 PM · #43 |
With all due respect to armadildo, I don't much care what the rest of the world thinks. Most of the rest of the world was not a target of islamic terrorism.
It's time to stand up to it - only I wish we would really do it, not the window dressing that we've done in Iraq (with respect to all our brave soldiers who are following misguided orders). |
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01/01/2005 05:39:47 PM · #44 |
Could this be cosidered a RANT? Don't we have a place for those?
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01/01/2005 05:41:52 PM · #45 |
Actually, much of the rest of the world has been a target of terrorism for decades; the USA got its first serious taste of it with 9/11.
Robt.
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01/01/2005 05:45:30 PM · #46 |
Well why they would want to continue to take it lying down is beyond me.
Oh, theres the matter of the oil. Surely if not for the oil we would have long ago squashed the terrorists and their supporters. Hopefully we will come ot our senses and just do it. After 30 years enough is enough. |
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01/01/2005 06:14:17 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by photodude: Most of the rest of the world was not a target of islamic terrorism. | I wonder why...
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01/01/2005 06:32:18 PM · #48 |
Becuase most of the world is not as free, and freedom is a threat to them |
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01/01/2005 07:42:14 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by photodude: Becuase most of the world is not as free, and freedom is a threat to them |
Yeah... I hear that Canada's a real prison colony.
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01/01/2005 08:15:59 PM · #50 |
I have been watching this tread and find it hard to swallow. One user asked a simple and polite question and over the course of a few hours this tread borders a rant forum. I have thought about posting several times but I believe it will just quote a saying from Winston Churchill, “By swallowing evil words unsaid, no one has ever harmed his stomach.†Because if I may quote him once again, “A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.â€
Happy New Year to everyone, and I mean everyone no matter where you live or your point of view.
Scott W.
Message edited by author 2005-01-01 20:23:30.
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