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12/31/2004 05:09:16 PM · #1
''Are'' ''you'' ''stuck'' ''in'' ''the'' ''4''-''5'' ''scoring'' ''range''? ''Not'' ''getting'' ''the'' ''comments'' ''you'' ''need'' ''to'' ''improve''? ''People'' ''speak'' ''in'' ''hushed'' ''tones'' ''about'' '''a''' '''recipe''' ''for'' ''winning'' ''ribbons'' ''on'' ''DPC''. ''Well'', ''I'''''ve'' ''managed'' ''to'' ''smuggle'' ''the'' ''faded'' ''blueprints'' ''out'' ''of'' ''Iceland'' ''to'' ''share'' ''with'' ''you'' ''all''.

''DPC'' ''offers'' ''excellent'' ''tutorials'' ''on'' ''camera'' ''technique'', ''but'' ''nothing'' ''to'' ''help'' ''you'' ''decide'' ''WHAT'' ''to'' ''shoot''. ''This'' ''IS'' '''a''' ''photography'' ''site'', ''but'' ''concept'' ''is'' ''king''. ''It'' ''says'' ''so'' ''right'' ''in'' ''the'' ''voting'' ''guidelines''. ''Of'' ''course'', '''a''' ''poor'' ''shot'' ''of'' '''a''' ''good'' ''idea'' ''isn'''''t'' ''going'' ''to'' '''ribbon'''. ''You'' ''do'' ''have'' ''to'' ''understand'' ''your'' ''equipment'' ''and'' ''good'' ''photography'' ''principles'', ''but'' ''the'' ''focused'' ''challenge'' ''is'' ''what'' ''makes'' ''this'' ''site'' ''special''! ''That'' ''National'' ''Geographic'' ''photo'' ''of'' '''a''' ''green''-''eyed'' ''Afghan'' ''girl'' ''wouldn'''''t'' ''top'' ''4'' ''in'' ''an'' ''Architecture'' ''challenge''.

''Your'' ''challenge'':
''Shoot'' ''an'' ''Endangered'' ''Species ''Capture'' '''a''' ''photo'' ''of'' ''something'' ''for'' ''the'' ''benefit'' ''of'' ''later'' ''generations'' ''who'' ''may'' ''never'' ''see'' ''one''.

''It'' ''seems'' ''like'' ''every'' ''challenge'' ''spawns'' ''one'' ''or'' ''more'' ''forum'' ''posts'' ''where'' ''people'' ''pick'' ''apart'' ''the'' ''wording'' ''of'' ''the'' ''challenge'' ''description'' ''and'' ''argue'' ''over'' ''what'' ''does'' ''or'' ''doesn'''''t'' ''fit'' (''electronic'' ''vs''. ''electric''... ''puh''-''lease''). ''As'' ''soon'' ''as'' ''the'' ''topic'' ''ventures'' ''into'' ''unfamiliar'' ''territory'', ''people'' ''get'' ''confused''. ''What'' ''to'' ''do''?

''First'', ''read'' ''the'' ''description'' ''carefully'' ''and'' ''try'' ''to'' ''understand'' ''the'' ''general'' ''direction'' ''of'' ''the'' ''topic''. ''Each'' ''description'' ''is'' '''a''' ''guideline'', ''not'' '''a''' ''shopping'' ''list''. ''Think'' ''about'' ''what'' ''the'' ''author'' ''might'' ''have'' ''intended'', ''but'' ''don'''''t'' ''read'' ''between'' ''the'' ''lines'' ''for'' ''instructions'' ''that'' ''don'''''t'' ''exist'', ''and'' ''don'''''t'' ''get'' ''hung'' ''up'' ''on'' ''possible'' ''definitions'' ''for'' ''each'' ''word''. ''What'' ''can'' ''you'' ''think'' ''of'' ''to'' ''fit'' ''this'' ''challenge''?

''Obviously'', ''you'' ''could'' ''go'' ''to'' ''the'' ''zoo'' ''and'' ''shoot'' ''any'' ''number'' ''of'' ''rare'' ''animals''. ''This'' ''being'' '''a''' ''photo'' ''site'', ''some'' ''people'' ''will'' ''setup'' '''a''' ''film'' ''camera'' ''as'' ''their'' ''endangered'' ''subject''. ''Others'' ''will'' ''look'' ''at'' ''old'' ''tech''... ''cassette'' ''tapes'', ''floppy'' ''discs'', ''etc''. ''Clean'' ''water'' ''could'' ''be'' ''endangered''. ''Maybe'' ''your'' ''shot'' ''isn'''''t'' '''a''' ''physical'' ''thing'', ''but'' '''a''' ''concept'' ''like'' ''manners'' ''or'' ''compassion''. ''So'' ''how'' ''do'' ''we'' ''pick'' '''a''' '''ribbon''' ''winner''?

''Clearly'', '''a''' ''recognizably'' ''rare'' ''animal'' ''would'' ''work''. '''A''' ''Bolivian'' ''mushroom'' ''might'' ''be'' ''endangered'', ''but'' ''more'' ''people'' ''will'' ''recognize'' '''a''' ''tiger''. ''If'' ''you'' ''have'' ''access'' ''to'' '''a''' ''condor'' ''or'' ''rhino'', ''it'' ''would'' ''be'' ''foolish'' ''to'' ''ignore'' ''it'' (''NEVER'' ''ignore'' '''a''' ''rhino''). ''Remember'' ''that'' ''this'' ''is'' ''the'' ''most'' ''obvious'' ''choice'', ''so'' '''a''' ''common'' ''shot'' ''isn'''''t'' ''going'' ''to'' ''cut'' ''it''. ''You'' ''must'' ''find'' ''something'' ''extraordinary'' ''in'' ''such'' '''a''' ''commodity'' ''to'' ''stand'' ''out'' ''from'' ''the'' ''crowd''. ''Perhaps'' ''your'' ''shot'' ''emphasizes'' ''the'' ''tiger'''''s'' ''small'' ''cage'' ''or'' ''isolation'', ''maybe'' ''it'''''s'' '''a''' ''close''-''up'' ''of'' ''the'' ''tiger'''''s'' ''eye'' ''with'' '''a''' ''teardrop'', ''or'' ''you'' ''might'' ''even'' ''seek'' ''out'' '''a''' ''zookeeper'' ''for'' '''a''' ''chance'' ''to'' ''catch'' ''them'' ''caring'' ''for'' '''a''' ''cub''. ''NOW'' ''you'''''re'' ''making'' '''a''' ''visual'' ''distinction'' ''between'' ''tiger'' ''and'' ''endangered'' ''animal''! ''Can'''''t'' ''you'' ''just'' ''feel'' ''your'' ''score'' ''rising''?

''Don'''''t'' ''have'' '''a''' ''Whooping'' ''Crane'' ''handy''? ''Can'' ''you'' ''substitute'' '''a''' ''stuffed'' ''animal''? ''Well'', ''no''. ''Unless'' ''you'' ''can'' ''fool'' ''everyone'' ''into'' ''thinking'' ''it'''''s'' ''real'', ''don'''''t'' ''even'' ''try'' ''it''. ''Toys'' ''usually'' ''fail'' ''because'' ''they'' ''scream'' "''amateur''." ''Look'' ''at'' ''past'' ''entries'' ''that'' ''scored'' ''in'' ''the'' ''3''.''5''-''4''.''5'' ''range'' ''and'' ''you'''''ll'' ''find'' ''them'' ''filled'' ''with'' ''whatever'' ''objects'' ''the'' ''photographer'' ''found'' ''handy'' ''around'' ''the'' ''house''. ''Voters'' ''recognize'' '''a''' ''lack'' ''of'' ''effort'' ''and'' ''the'' ''punishment'' ''is'' ''severe''. ''Any'' ''of'' ''the'' ''above'' ''ideas'' ''can'' ''work'' ''IF'' ''you'' ''can'' ''clearly'' ''show'' ''the'' ''endangered'' ''aspect''. ''Don'''''t'' ''assume'' ''that'' ''your'' ''audience'' ''will'' ''understand'' ''the'' ''concept''- ''it'''''s'' ''your'' ''job'' ''to'' ''communicate'' ''it''! ''Show'' ''that'' ''old'' ''film'' ''camera'' ''being'' ''used'' ''as'' '''a''' ''wheel'' ''chock'', ''shoot'' '''a''' ''broken'' ''phone'' ''booth'' ''with'' ''trash'' ''cans'' ''under'' ''it''. ''Convince'' ''your'' ''audience'' ''that'' ''these'' ''things'' ''won'''''t'' ''be'' ''around'' ''much'' ''longer''. ''Make'' ''sure'' ''your'' ''subject'' ''is'' ''universally'' ''understood'' ''as'' ''endangered'', ''and'' ''stands'' ''out'' ''from'' ''others'' ''who'' ''might'' ''choose'' ''the'' ''same'' ''subject''. ''Whatever'' ''you'' ''select'', ''don'''''t'' ''just'' ''set'' ''it'' ''on'' '''a''' ''table'' ''and'' ''take'' '''a''' ''picture'' ''of'' ''it''- ''boring'' ''shots'' ''get'' ''low'' ''votes'' ''and'' ''few'' ''comments''. ''Winning'' ''shots'' ''aren'''''t'' ''just'' ''photos'', ''they'' ''tell'' '''a''' ''story''.

''What'' ''if'' ''I'' ''dress'' ''up'' ''my'' ''pet'' ''Chihuahua'' ''and'' ''enter'' ''that''? ''The'' ''conventional'' ''wisdom'' ''is'' ''that'' ''voters'' ''don'''''t'' ''like'' ''kids'' ''and'' ''pets''. ''Not'' ''true''. ''Both'' ''are'' ''well'' ''represented'' ''among'' ''the'' ''favorite'' ''photos'' ''on'' ''this'' ''site''. ''The'' ''trick'' ''is'' ''to'' ''do'' ''something'' ''special ''with'' ''common'' ''subjects''. ''If'' ''you'' ''just'' ''plop'' ''Snowball'' ''on'' '''a''' ''couch'' ''and'' ''snap'' '''a''' ''pic'' ''that'' ''looks'' ''like'' ''your'' ''aunt'' ''Mabel'' ''could'' ''have'' ''taken'' ''it'', ''you'' ''might'' ''as'' ''well'' ''tie'' '''a''' ''boat'' ''anchor'' ''to'' ''your'' ''score''. ''Seek'' ''out'' ''uncommon'' ''poses'', ''unique'' ''lighting'' ''and'' ''original'' ''situations''. ''Check'' ''your'' ''camera'' ''settings'' ''carefully'' ''and'' ''shoot'' ''in'' ''burst'' ''mode''- ''you'' ''won'''''t'' ''get'' '''a''' ''second'' ''chance'' ''with'' ''high''-''energy'' ''subjects''. ''Look'' ''at'' ''the'' ''work'' ''of'' ''Heida'', ''Librodo'' ''or'' ''Sonifo''. ''Note'' ''how'' ''they'' ''capture'' ''the'' ''emotion'' ''with'' ''technical'' ''perfection''. ''You'' ''must'' ''do'' ''no'' ''less''.

''I'''''ve'' ''seen'' ''lots'' ''of'' ''folks'' ''complain'' ''that'' ''thinking'' ''outside'' ''the'' ''box'' ''doesn'''''t'' ''work''. ''Nonsense''. ''Take'' '''a''' ''photo'' ''of'' '''a''' ''forest'' ''that'''''s'' ''been'' ''clear'' ''cut'' ''down'' ''to'' ''stumps'' ''with'' ''any'' ''wild'' ''animal'' ''in'' ''the'' ''distance''. ''Capture'' ''an'' ''old'' ''native'' ''artisan'' ''practicing'' '''a''' ''dying'' ''craft''. ''Those'' ''are'' ''ribbons''. '''A''' ''little'' ''imagination'' ''will'' ''open'' ''up'' '''a''' ''world'' ''of'' ''possibilities'' ''for'' ''any'' ''challenge'', ''and'' ''voters'' ''often'' ''appreciate'' '''a''' ''refreshing'' ''break'' ''from'' ''the'' ''obvious''. ''As'' ''long'' ''as'' ''the'' ''challenge'' ''connection'' ''is'' ''clear'' (''without'' ''explaining'' ''it'' ''in'' ''the'' ''title''), ''you'''''re'' ''in'' ''good'' ''shape''.

''So'' ''what'' ''about'' ''the'' ''titles''? ''Avoid'' ''repeating'' ''the'' ''challenge'' ''description''. ''Use'' ''similar'' ''terms'' ''that'' ''will'' ''add'' ''to'' ''your'' ''image''. "''Last'' ''of'' ''the'' ''X''," "''Farewell'' ''X''," ''or'' "''Where'' ''have'' ''all'' ''the'' ''X'' ''gone''?" ''You'' ''get'' ''the'' ''idea''. ''The'' ''title'' ''is'' ''another'' ''opportunity'' ''to'' ''connect'' ''with'' ''your'' ''audience'' ''and'' ''inspire'' ''some'' ''feeling'' ''or'' ''insight''. ''Don'''''t'' ''waste'' ''it'' ''by'' ''restating'' ''the'' ''challenge'' ''or'' ''simply'' ''identifying'' ''the'' ''obvious''. ''Your'' ''title'' ''is'' ''the'' ''icing'' ''on'' ''your'' ''digital'' ''cake''.

''Final'' ''tips'': ''Simplicity'' ''is'' ''your'' ''friend''. ''The'' ''fewer'' ''things'' '''a''' ''viewer'' ''has'' ''to'' ''look'' ''at'', ''the'' ''easier'' ''it'' ''is'' ''to'' ''guide'' ''their'' ''attention''. ''Eliminate'' ''anything'' ''that'' ''doesn'''''t'' ''enhance'' ''your'' ''photo'' (''including'' ''distracting'' ''elements'', ''borders'' ''and'' ''special'' ''effects''). ''Flaws'' ''like'' ''poor'' ''focus'', ''crooked'' ''horizons'' ''and'' ''odd'' ''color'' ''balance'' ''are'' ''favorite'' ''targets'' ''for'' ''point'' ''deductions''. ''Make'' ''sure'' ''your'' ''shot'' ''isn'''''t'' ''wearing'' ''one'' ''of'' ''these'' "''kick'' ''me''" ''signs'', ''and'' ''you'''''ll'' ''be'' ''scored'' ''on'' ''the'' ''photo'' ''rather'' ''than'' ''the'' ''mistakes''. ''Good'' ''luck''!
12/31/2004 05:26:37 PM · #2
''Wonderful'' ''post''. ''Thanks'' ''for'' ''taking'' ''the'' ''time'' ''to'' ''compose'' ''and'' ''share'' ''this''.

''Robt''.

12/31/2004 05:27:30 PM · #3
''I'' ''have'' ''to'' ''say'' -- ''well'' ''said''!
12/31/2004 05:38:31 PM · #4
''Very'' ''nice'' ''guide''!! ''Now'', ''if'' ''I'' ''could'' ''just'' ''overcome'' ''that'' '''lack'' ''of'' ''talent''' ''thingy''.....
12/31/2004 05:48:15 PM · #5
''Great'' ''synopsis'' ''of'' ''what'' ''it'' ''takes'' ''to'' '''win'''. ''Unfortunately'' ''it'' ''is'' ''easier'' ''said'', ''or'' ''in'' ''this'' ''case'' ''read'', ''than'' ''done''.
12/31/2004 05:55:15 PM · #6
''Great'' ''post'' ''Shannon'', ''thanks''. ''I'''''ve'' ''caught'' ''snippets'' ''of'' ''your'' ''philosophy'' ''from'' ''past'' ''forum'' ''posts'', ''and'' ''these'' ''have'' ''turned'' ''me'' ''into'' '''a''' "''shannon'' ''watcher''," ''if'' ''you'' ''say'' ''something'', ''I'' ''generally'' ''sit'' ''up'' ''and'' ''listen''. ''This'' ''message'' ''of'' ''yours'' ''will'' ''be'' ''studied'' ''by'' ''many'', ''I'''''d'' ''venture'' ''to'' ''say'', ''and'' ''will'' ''make'' ''all'' ''of'' ''us'' ''look'' '''a''' ''little'' ''differently'' ''at'' ''the'' ''results'' ''of'' ''our'' ''past'' ''shoots'', ''and'' ''make'' ''us'' ''think'' ''more'' ''carefully'' ''before'' ''pressing'' ''the'' ''shutter'' ''for'' ''future'' ''ones''.
12/31/2004 06:01:37 PM · #7
''Very'' ''good'' ''post''. ''I'' ''thank'' ''you''. ''Now'' ''if'' ''I'' ''can'' ''just'' ''follow'' ''your'' ''suggestions''.
12/31/2004 06:03:03 PM · #8
''Great'' ''post'' ''Shannon''.

''As'' ''one'' ''of'' ''my'' ''mentors'' ''here'', ''I'' ''appreciate'' ''you'' ''sharing'' ''this'', ''and'' ''be'' ''warned'' ''that'' ''I'' ''will'' ''use'' ''this'' ''information'' ''to'' ''gain'' ''an'' ''edge'' ''against'' ''you'' ''in'' ''upcoming'' ''Challenges''!

''Borders''? ''We'' ''don'''''t'' ''need'' ''no'' ''stinkin''' ''borders''! - ''LOL


''Message'' ''edited'' ''by'' ''author'' ''2004''-''12''-''31'' ''18'':''16'':''22''.
12/31/2004 06:05:41 PM · #9
''Excellent'' ''post'' (''I'' ''swear'' ''I'' ''have'' ''read'' ''this'' ''somewhere'' ''before'' ;-''D'' ) ''You'' ''may'' ''want'' ''to'' ''consider'' ''preparing'' ''this'' ''for'' '''a''' ''tutorial'' ''with'' ''some'' ''photo'' ''examples''. ''This'' ''way'' ''it'' ''will'' ''always'' ''be'' ''available'' ''otherwise'' ''you'' ''could'' ''keep'' '''bumping''' ''this'' ''thread'' ''forever''.

''T
12/31/2004 06:18:45 PM · #10
''Originally'' ''posted'' ''by'' ''BradP'':

...''be'' ''warned'' ''that'' ''I'' ''will'' ''use'' ''this'' ''information'' ''to'' ''gain'' ''an'' ''edge'' ''against'' ''you'' ''in'' ''upcoming'' ''Challenges''!


''Oh'' ''crap''! ''The'' ''blueprints'' ''have'' ''fallen'' ''into'' ''enemy'' ''hands''! ;-)
12/31/2004 06:21:48 PM · #11
''Originally'' ''posted'' ''by'' ''timj351'':

''You'' ''may'' ''want'' ''to'' ''consider'' ''preparing'' ''this'' ''for'' '''a''' ''tutorial'' ''with'' ''some'' ''photo'' ''examples''.


''Love'' ''to'', ''Tim'', ''but'' ''adding'' ''the'' ''code'' ''for'' ''even'' ''one'' ''photo'' ''example'' ''makes'' ''the'' ''text'' ''too'' ''long'' ''to'' ''post''. ''I'''''ll'' ''wait'' ''to'' ''see'' ''if'' ''others'' ''have'' ''something'' ''to'' ''add'', ''then'' ''work'' ''up'' '''a''' ''file'' ''for'' ''the'' ''tutorial'' ''section''. ''Already'', ''I'' ''can'' ''see'' ''the'' ''need'' ''for'' '''a''' ''section'' ''on'' ''appeal''. ''Thanks'' ''for'' ''your'' ''help'' ''earlier''.

''Message'' ''edited'' ''by'' ''author'' ''2004''-''12''-''31'' ''18'':''24'':''46''.
12/31/2004 06:32:07 PM · #12
''so'' ''your'' ''saying'' ''i'' ''shouldn'''''t'' ''use'' ''toys'' ''or'' ''borders''...

''I'''''m'' ''gonna'' ''have'' '''a''' ''go'' ''at'' ''that'' ''one''!
12/31/2004 06:36:17 PM · #13
''Originally'' ''posted'' ''by'' ''ericlimon'':

''so'' ''your'' ''saying'' ''i'' ''shouldn'''''t'' ''use'' ''toys'' ''or'' ''borders''...


''I'''''m'' ''saying'' ''newbies ''shouldn'''''t'' ''use'' ''toys'' ''or'' ''borders''. ''YOU'' ''shouldn'''''t'' ''be'' ''reading'' '''a''' ''post'' ''on'' ''how'' ''to'' '''win''' '''a''' '''ribbon'''!
12/31/2004 06:39:54 PM · #14
''Great'' ''post'', ''you'' ''are'' ''an'' ''asset'' ''to'' ''dpchallenge''.

''Thanks'' ''again'',

''Travis''

12/31/2004 06:40:52 PM · #15
''Originally'' ''posted'' ''by'' ''scalvert'':

''Originally'' ''posted'' ''by'' ''timj351'':

''You'' ''may'' ''want'' ''to'' ''consider'' ''preparing'' ''this'' ''for'' '''a''' ''tutorial'' ''with'' ''some'' ''photo'' ''examples''.


''Love'' ''to'', ''Tim'', ''but'' ''adding'' ''the'' ''code'' ''for'' ''even'' ''one'' ''photo'' ''example'' ''makes'' ''the'' ''text'' ''too'' ''long'' ''to'' ''post''. ''I'''''ll'' ''wait'' ''to'' ''see'' ''if'' ''others'' ''have'' ''something'' ''to'' ''add'', ''then'' ''work'' ''up'' '''a''' ''file'' ''for'' ''the'' ''tutorial'' ''section''. ''Already'', ''I'' ''can'' ''see'' ''the'' ''need'' ''for'' '''a''' ''section'' ''on'' ''appeal''. ''Thanks'' ''for'' ''your'' ''help'' ''earlier''.


''It'' ''isn'''''t'' ''necessary'' ''for'' ''you'' ''to'' ''code'' ''anything''. ''Just'' ''copy'' ''your'' ''text'' ''into'' '''a''' ''word'' ''document'' ''and'' ''wherever'' '''a''' ''photo'' ''will'' ''be'' ''placed'' ''type'' ''in'' '''place'' ''photo'' ''such'' ''and'' ''such'' ''here''' ''in'' ''parenthesis''. ''Save'' ''this'' ''out'' ''as'' '''a''' .''txt'' ''document'' ''in'' ''it'''''s'' ''own'' ''folder''. ''In'' ''this'' ''folder'' ''copy'' ''the'' ''appropriately'' ''sized'' ''jpegs'' ''with'' ''their'' ''corresponding'' ''names''. ''Then'' ''zip'' ''up'' ''the'' ''contents'' ''of'' ''this'' ''folder'' ''and'' ''send'' ''the'' ''zip'' ''file'' ''to'' ''Drew'' ''or'' ''Langdon'' ''and'' ''they'' ''will'' ''put'' ''it'' ''together'' ''for'' ''you'' ''for'' ''your'' ''tutorial'' ''upon'' ''approval''.

''And'', ''yes'', ''you'' ''might'' ''want'' ''to'' ''wait'' ''until'' ''you'' ''have'' ''added'' ''the'' ''section'' ''on'' ''talent'': ''How'' ''to'' ''avoid'' ''taking'' ''crappy'' ''pictures'' :-)

''T
12/31/2004 06:55:39 PM · #16
''if'' ''anyone'' ''is'' ''interested'' ''in'' ''some'' ''additional'' ''reading'', ''check'' ''out'' ''the'' ''photographer'' ''notes'' ''on'' ''these'' ''images''. ''this'' ''will'' ''give'' ''you'' '''a''' ''lot'' ''of'' ''insight'' ''into'' ''the'' ''effort'' ''that'' ''separates'' '''a''' ''4''-''5'' ''score'' ''from'' '''a''' ''6''-''7'' ''score''...


''thanks'', ''shannon''!
12/31/2004 07:06:42 PM · #17
''Great'' ''insight''.
12/31/2004 08:01:18 PM · #18
''What'' '''a''' ''great'' ''post''! ''Thankyou'' ''Shannon''. ''This'' ''is'' ''not'' ''just'' ''about'' ''winning'' ''ribbons'', ''but'' ''also'' ''about'' ''making'' ''all ''our'' ''images'' ''more'' ''effective'', ''more'' ''emotive'', ''more'' ''appealing''.

''Would'' ''love'' ''to'' ''see'' ''this'' ''as'' '''a''' ''tutorial'', ''but'' ''in'' ''the'' ''meantime'' ''I'' ''think'' ''I'''''ll'' ''print'' ''it'' ''off'' ''so'' ''I'' ''don'''''t'' ''lose'' ''it''!

''sue''
01/01/2005 12:27:16 AM · #19
'''A''' ''great'' ''post'' ''Scalvert''!

''Happy'' ''New'' ''Year''!
01/01/2005 01:48:58 AM · #20
''excellent'' ''post'', ''shannon''! ''thanks'' ''for'' ''taking'' ''the'' ''time'' ''to'' ''write'' ''it''!

''happy'' ''new'' ''year''! :)
01/01/2005 01:42:04 PM · #21
''I'''''m'' ''bumping'' ''this'' ''so'' ''more'' ''people'' ''can'' ''read'' ''it
01/01/2005 02:00:14 PM · #22
''What'' ''if'' ''I'' ''dress'' ''up'' ''my'' ''pet'' ''Chihuahua'' ''and'' ''enter'' ''that''?


''Or'' '''a''' ''pig''? ''This'' ''is'' ''exactly'' ''what'' ''this'' ''site'' ''is'' ''for'', '''a''' ''learning'' ''experience'' ''with'' ''real'' ''life'' ''examples''. ''By'' ''study'' ''of'' '''ribbon''' ''leaders'' ''climb'' ''to'' ''the'' ''top'', ''tutorials'', ''and'' ''constructive'' ''guidance'' ''we'' ''all'' ''learn'' ''to'' ''improve'' ''our'' ''technique'' ''and'' ''creative'' ''eye''. ''Thanks'' ''for'' ''the'' ''great'' ''post''.
01/01/2005 02:08:14 PM · #23
''Originally'' ''posted'' ''by'' ''whatdewuc'':

''Or'' '''a''' ''pig''?


''Oh'' ''you'' ''had'' ''to'' ''dredge'' ''THAT'' ''up''. :-/
01/01/2005 02:20:31 PM · #24
''Originally'' ''posted'' ''by'' ''scalvert'':

''Originally'' ''posted'' ''by'' ''whatdewuc'':

''Or'' '''a''' ''pig''?


''Oh'' ''you'' ''had'' ''to'' ''dredge'' ''THAT'' ''up''. :-/


''Well'' ''you'' ''did'' ''mention'' ''being'' ''stuck'' ''in'' ''the'' ''4''-''5'' ''range''. ''Thanks'' ''for'' ''leading'' ''by'' ''example''. ;-)
01/01/2005 02:26:18 PM · #25
''You'' ''should'' ''have'' ''posted'' ''this'' ''earlier'', ''scalvert'' :) ''Good'' ''one''.
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