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12/17/2004 01:59:25 AM · #1 |
 
can you please (especially women of dpc) analyze these 2 before and after picturess and tell me if they are done right. and if not what is wrong and where?
i really really need the input... |
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12/17/2004 02:09:48 AM · #2 |
| After is really creepy. Sorry. Bit too much IMHO. |
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12/17/2004 02:13:37 AM · #3 |
Hi, first off let me tell you I am not the one to critique portrait photographs but I would like to tell you what I see in them. To me there is a fine line when softening a photo and taking out natural features. I think you have done a good job on both of them but may have went a little to far. I like the 2nd one the best. The first seems to be a little over done the most, kind of looks plastic. Even with that said. I know this is not the critique [amateur] you were looking for but I hope it helps in some way.
Scott.
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12/17/2004 02:14:45 AM · #4 |
| Kind of a cross between Michael Jackson's skin and Joan Collins when she would do commercials with a SOFT focus. She always looked like she was behind shower glass. sorry.. |
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12/17/2004 02:42:02 AM · #5 |
Same thoughts here, sorry. The first after shot is kind of scary, really brings out the blue eyes kind of in the wrong way.
The second one isn't so bad but the pic got a little dark.
I'm thinking on the second one the eliminating the wrinkles was the main concern?? She does look younger but her flesh tone has disappeared.
I've found women folk more concerned about blemishes and scars more than wrinkles and dimples. Just soften those areas up a bit might be better.
Careful around the lip (stick) area as both of the after shots appear to have some bleeding/feathering. |
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12/17/2004 02:52:23 AM · #6 |
I'm very sorry to say but I also think you went way too far. They look un-real and creepy.
In the first one, the woman looks almost like a vampire with the teeth so white and protrudent and the eyes so light, almost transparent.
You did a great job on her forehead but other then that I don't think she looks good.
On the second one you totaly changed her personality. The upper part of the face looks great. her eyes and forhead even make her look younger but the lines you deleted from the bottom part look bad. She looks twisted somehow.
I also don't like the fact that her hair is totaly blends into the background. On the right side of her face (my right actually) it looks like she has no hair at all cause it's just background and shadows.
Personaly, I didn't like those at all. You did a very impressive work but in my opinion the result don't really worth the trouble. Sorry...
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12/17/2004 03:00:56 AM · #7 |
I have to agree with the earlier comments.
With the second one in particular, you have done a great job with the wrinkles as far as using Photoshop goes ... but it has ended up not being a representation of the original person at all. It is just too far from the original, sorry.
With touch ups like that it is usually a case of "less is more". The best touch ups are the ones which do improve the wrinkles, zits, whatever .... but almost unperceivably, so if someone who knows the actual person saw it they would think it was wonderful .... but not really even notice the edit. I doubt anyone who knows the second lady could possibly say that sorry.
Message edited by author 2004-12-17 03:01:23.
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12/17/2004 04:43:26 AM · #8 |
I think you need more care with the shaping of light in both shots Mehmet: in the first, aside from the eyes which have already been commented on, I think you could lessen the overall contrast across the forehead - you've made the shaping there too pronounced, and that adds a skull-like feeling which is reall quite gruesome. There's also a problem with her smile - you've removed so many of the expresive lines that go with a smile on anyone's face, especially around the eyes, that the showing of her teeth makes her look evil - I would personally look carefully at your work around the eyes, to bring back some humanity.
In the second, I think you've done a much more effective job, but in working out the facial wrinkles on the left side (as we see it) of the face you've made her look too asymmetrical. All faces are aymmetrical, but this is too much - it looks like her right cheek is swollen.
It all depends, of course, on exactly what the purpose of this is, anyway. So those are just my opinions, if you really must photoshop to that degree.
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12/17/2004 08:02:28 AM · #9 |
Have you tried converting them to B&W and see what that does?
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12/18/2004 01:32:08 AM · #10 |
These must have taken a lot of time to do. They are both to far off from the real pictures. The first, the colors are not good. All you really need to do for that one is take out the mole beside her nose, the one below her lips and smooth out the center part of her forehead and a slight color adjustment and she's good to go. I like how her hair turned out.
The second one. I think you need to think about how your lighting is making all the wrinkles prominent. Should you be able to retake them, make sure you use very soft light, evenly spread across her face and lots of it. And maybe a soft focus filter on the lens, but not a real strong one, just enough to stop the camera from picking up evey flaw.
The after shot looks like she has burn scars covering the lower half of her face. Sorry. |
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12/18/2004 01:49:10 AM · #11 |
i agree with the majority here.
try this site - //www.vividlight.com/articles/412a.htm - it has some good adivce/methods/ideas to help the skin issues during the origianl pic (how to minimize textures and shadows) and such using filters and light techniques.
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