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07/24/2025 07:41:26 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
I am still unclear about team percentile, what happens if team members enter challenges before season starts and get the team over 55% ? Or has the participant's percentile been fixed when DPL 6 was announced? |
It's indeed something of an enigma. I had a full team and we were finalised. Then the % percentile went above 55% so we became unfinalised, and now it's dropped again and is below 55% but is not showing finalised. I'm now super confused. Meaning, the participants percentiles are not fixed.
Message edited by author 2025-07-24 07:42:10. |
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07/25/2025 12:12:11 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
I am still unclear about team percentile, what happens if team members enter challenges before season starts and get the team over 55% ? Or has the participant's percentile been fixed when DPL 6 was announced? |
It's indeed something of an enigma. I had a full team and we were finalised. Then the % percentile went above 55% so we became unfinalised, and now it's dropped again and is below 55% but is not showing finalised. I'm now super confused. Meaning, the participants percentiles are not fixed. |
So if we are over 55% we are not finalized - ugh - now what do I do - we’re at 58%
Input from SC would really be appreciated!!!
ETA: 55% seems like a very low % (hmmm)
Message edited by author 2025-07-25 00:13:42. |
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07/25/2025 01:05:34 AM · #28 |
Are all the teams set? Haven't seen much movement on the FA page...
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07/25/2025 09:01:11 AM · #29 |
| Still 26 people in the free agent pool, including myself. Just don't want to be captain this time around. |
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07/25/2025 09:30:01 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by Ja-9:
So if we are over 55% we are not finalized - ugh - now what do I do - we’re at 58%
Input from SC would really be appreciated!!!
ETA: 55% seems like a very low % (hmmm) |
55% DOES seem low, doesn't it? But it is what it is right now *as a target* as far as I can tell. Mita's aware of what's happening with this flip/flop thingy and will, I believe, be stepping up to manually finalize teams.
But I'm a bystander in this operation, and indeed in all operations now: it's SO relaxing!
Message edited by author 2025-07-25 09:32:16. |
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07/25/2025 10:37:01 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by Ja-9:
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
I am still unclear about team percentile, what happens if team members enter challenges before season starts and get the team over 55% ? Or has the participant's percentile been fixed when DPL 6 was announced? |
It's indeed something of an enigma. I had a full team and we were finalised. Then the % percentile went above 55% so we became unfinalised, and now it's dropped again and is below 55% but is not showing finalised. I'm now super confused. Meaning, the participants percentiles are not fixed. |
So if we are over 55% we are not finalized - ugh - now what do I do - we’re at 58%
Input from SC would really be appreciated!!!
ETA: 55% seems like a very low % (hmmm) |
Maybe we shouldn't even participate until this is finalized - we might accidentally get a good score and screw up the team! |
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07/25/2025 10:55:54 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
I am still unclear about team percentile, what happens if team members enter challenges before season starts and get the team over 55% ? Or has the participant's percentile been fixed when DPL 6 was announced? |
It's indeed something of an enigma. I had a full team and we were finalised. Then the % percentile went above 55% so we became unfinalised, and now it's dropped again and is below 55% but is not showing finalised. I'm now super confused. Meaning, the participants percentiles are not fixed. |
That's a real issue. The cap is there to level the field, and is not meant to annoy us. We will solve it by allowing teams which were "finalized" at some point to carry on regardless of the scores their members accumulate afterwards. Note that if a team changes composition, then it will loose its "finalized" status.
The current software may not handle the various scenarios correctly, so we will "finalize" teams manually as the games begin. To effectively manage this we will monitor the teams status daily until the rounds start. |
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07/25/2025 11:21:20 AM · #33 |
Friendly reminder of how scores are affected by DPL... so you don't go into "Score Shock".
In the past, scores seemed generally lower during DPL Season. I'm not sure why... maybe people wanting their own team to end up on top? I assume so.
Anyway, I hope that doesn't happen again this season, but if it does, do not be dismayed. It's happening to everyone.
(P.S.) I will be away for most of the DPL season so I will be "only" cheering you all on instead of participating and cheering you on! :D )
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07/25/2025 11:52:39 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by mitalapo:
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
I am still unclear about team percentile, what happens if team members enter challenges before season starts and get the team over 55% ? Or has the participant's percentile been fixed when DPL 6 was announced? |
It's indeed something of an enigma. I had a full team and we were finalised. Then the % percentile went above 55% so we became unfinalised, and now it's dropped again and is below 55% but is not showing finalised. I'm now super confused. Meaning, the participants percentiles are not fixed. |
That's a real issue. The cap is there to level the field, and is not meant to annoy us. We will solve it by allowing teams which were "finalized" at some point to carry on regardless of the scores their members accumulate afterwards. Note that if a team changes composition, then it will loose its "finalized" status.
The current software may not handle the various scenarios correctly, so we will "finalize" teams manually as the games begin. To effectively manage this we will monitor the teams status daily until the rounds start. |
It is frustrating - poor Wendy - she can’t get invited to a team bc her personal % will throw off any teams 55% - and she’s not the only one Peter - Bassbone is another (there are many good players on the list - these are just two that I know of) - so you’ll have a fair amount of people willing to play but can’t get on a team or there’s not enough room to lower their %’s - or you have very inexperienced plays that won’t try to form a team (it is a little intimidating- right) - I totally get why you put the cap but it’s causing into a road block. Plus it the point is to bring us back to the fold n have us play - yet we can’t - shrug.
Take my team for instance - 1 player is pretty consistent in doing entries - I come back now n then as do 2 others - but the rest of my team consistently only play in league(s) - I was all finalized - but 2 of our original members had to step aside - both new members haven’t played in years - so what do I do now??? Do we stay all settled, hoping we will get blessed at 55.40%? Or do I or one of my members need to step aside - then we are at a disadvantage of only having 6 vs 7 members - OR raise the % by 5/10 then more teams can form an 2 of us waiting at the gate are in. Should I tell my teammates - after encouraging them to dust off, crack open & update their software - not enter any current challenges bc that might really bugger us up - head slap!
Please advise me |
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07/25/2025 01:00:43 PM · #35 |
Wouldn't it have been easier to just calculate percentiles as of a certain date?
Also, I agree that 55% seems low. |
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07/25/2025 05:07:47 PM · #36 |
I just realized that I'm screwed with my percentage. Can't fit on many teams, I skew the results too much. :(
edited to add -- most of the lowest scores are 32-36. range. Average that with the 94 and the median is more like 63%.
maybe I should enter things quick to lower my score so that someone wants to play with me. :(
Message edited by author 2025-07-25 17:15:20. |
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07/25/2025 10:00:31 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I just realized that I'm screwed with my percentage. Can't fit on many teams, I skew the results too much. :(
edited to add -- most of the lowest scores are 32-36. range. Average that with the 94 and the median is more like 63%.
maybe I should enter things quick to lower my score so that someone wants to play with me. :( |
Ya, y’all in the top 5-10 slots - are extremely challenged to make up a team - I know you said Wendy that you don’t want to be captain - but I don’t see how you can’t be - come on you can do it
I will say I really wish SC would pike up here - some clarity would be lovely. |
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07/26/2025 05:29:14 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by George said on 2025-07-25::
Wouldn't it have been easier to just calculate percentiles as of a certain date? |
This sounds like the right approach. Working on this direction. |
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07/26/2025 07:57:52 AM · #39 |
We have made a couple of changes based on your feedback as follows:
1. The seed average is now calculated by taking into account only challenges completed by the DPL announcement date
2. The cap is raised to 60%
As a result, there are now 5 finalized teams.
The above was implemented rather quickly so please look around to verify all is working as expected.
Originally posted by vawendy:
I just realized that I'm screwed with my percentage. Can't fit on many teams, I skew the results too much. :(
edited to add -- most of the lowest scores are 32-36. range. Average that with the 94 and the median is more like 63%.
maybe I should enter things quick to lower my score so that someone wants to play with me. :( |
Note that if you join a team of 5 with an average of 50%, your 94 will raise the team avg only to 57%
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07/26/2025 09:27:48 AM · #40 |
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07/26/2025 10:58:34 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by MaryO:
Thanks, Mita! |
Copy that... great work. |
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07/26/2025 11:21:19 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by PennyStreet:
Originally posted by MaryO:
Thanks, Mita! |
Copy that... great work. |
Phew now we’re finalized!!! Thank you for making the adjustments. |
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07/26/2025 11:54:04 AM · #43 |
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07/26/2025 02:15:38 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by mitalapo:
We have made a couple of changes based on your feedback as follows:
1. The seed average is now calculated by taking into account only challenges completed by the DPL announcement date
2. The cap is raised to 60%
As a result, there are now 5 finalized teams.
The above was implemented rather quickly so please look around to verify all is working as expected.
Originally posted by vawendy:
I just realized that I'm screwed with my percentage. Can't fit on many teams, I skew the results too much. :(
edited to add -- most of the lowest scores are 32-36. range. Average that with the 94 and the median is more like 63%.
maybe I should enter things quick to lower my score so that someone wants to play with me. :( |
Note that if you join a team of 5 with an average of 50%, your 94 will raise the team avg only to 57% |
Thanks! |
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07/27/2025 11:49:38 AM · #45 |
I wonder if people who might be reluctant to identify themselves as a Team Captain, realize how few requirements there are. A Captain should support and encourage other team members, but I would hope that everyone in a team does that.
For the last DPL I reached out to others on the list by PM and we formed a team. Only then did we identify someone who was willing to be named "Captain" and formalize the team on the website.
I encourage people to reach out to others by PM, if they are not already doing that. The clock is ticking. As of right now. "Just 7 days and 12 hours to go until sign-ups close". |
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07/27/2025 02:24:57 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by PenelopeK:
I wonder if people who might be reluctant to identify themselves as a Team Captain, realize how few requirements there are. A Captain should support and encourage other team members, but I would hope that everyone in a team does that.
For the last DPL I reached out to others on the list by PM and we formed a team. Only then did we identify someone who was willing to be named "Captain" and formalize the team on the website.
I encourage people to reach out to others by PM, if they are not already doing that. The clock is ticking. As of right now. "Just 7 days and 12 hours to go until sign-ups close". |
I 100% agree.
In fact, I had revived my old team as Captain and managed to bring together a wonderful group before the new regulations came into effect. Unfortunately, we didn’t make it under the 55% threshold, even though people were stepping back one by one. In the end, we were at 58%—still too high. As much as I welcome the new rule, it came too late for me and my teammates. I had to delete the team completely.
Most of us have now found new teams, myself included. One photographer is still on the free agents list, and it honestly breaks my heart to see that— and there’s still so much potential there!
And Penny is absolutely right: once the team is formed, most of the hard work is already done. Whether you’re writing in the team chat as Captain or as a regular member—everyone wants to contribute to the success of the DPL. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have signed up in the first place, right? |
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07/29/2025 10:06:08 AM · #47 |
| Where do I find a list of teams? Are there going to team private chat/ forums, as we had before. I looking forward to scrapping the rust off my lens and dust off the tripod. |
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07/29/2025 10:13:25 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by rodfulk:
Where do I find a list of teams? Are there going to team private chat/ forums, as we had before. I looking forward to scrapping the rust off my lens and dust off the tripod. |
Look under League (blue bar at top of page) and then Overview. Do join us! |
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07/29/2025 11:05:28 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by rodfulk:
Where do I find a list of teams? |
here
Originally posted by rodfulk:
Are there going to team private chat/ forums, as we had before. |
Yes. It is created once the rounds begin and the teams are finalized. Until then you may use PM. |
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07/29/2025 01:28:08 PM · #50 |
| It's been 8 years since my last challenge. I am signed up in the waitlist/pool/queue/scrap bin/clearance aisle. LOL |
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