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08/13/2002 11:42:43 AM · #51 |
I would rather have the 1 from an 8 yr old who didn't find it pretty than the 1 from the photographer who noticed one pixel out of alignment...
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08/13/2002 11:47:38 AM · #52 |
I personally have no problems with 5 to 11 year olds voting ... infact they can probably pick apart poor photography better than a few adults around here... (I wont name anyone)
I think the young people of today are media savy enough to vote... I would be more concerned about the votes of the 12-16 y.o's as they are more influenced by popular culture. But I don't feel that there are enough to sway the site one way or the other.. and most have a real interest in photography both traditional and modern...
I was reminded of this:
If you ask:
5yo if they are artist 90-100% will say Yes
13yo 1-20% will say yes
18yo maybe 1-2% will say yes
I personally don't feel he is ready to vote on photos.
I'm interested why you feel this??
I think it is clear from the amount of interest generated here and the legal issues raised that some features need to be added.
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/13/2002 11:49:33 AM. |
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08/13/2002 12:29:16 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by jeremya:
I'm interested why you feel this??
I guess a child can have an eye for beauty, but that is not all that is being judged here.When I receive comments, a lot of them break it down to technical, meeting the challenge, composition, etc.
My son is not able to judge these things, and I am quite sure most 5-10 yr olds are not either. My childs IQ is off the charts, but it has nothing to do with intelligence. It has to do with experience. I'm quite sure that many of the adult voters out there are not the best judges(perhaps even myself)but still a child especially under 10 just is not ready to judge.
For instance they might look at the photo of lets say soda and think "I don't like that soda so I'll give that photo a 1". That's how a childs mind at that age works.
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08/13/2002 12:41:09 PM · #54 |
| thats what i am thinking, gee. basically, since i have the maturity of a 10 year old, im letting you know how i vote. |
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08/13/2002 12:59:46 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by TerryGee:
Originally posted by jeremya:
[i]I'm interested why you feel this??
I guess a child can have an eye for beauty, but that is not all that is being judged here.When I receive comments, a lot of them break it down to technical, meeting the challenge, composition, etc.
My son is not able to judge these things, and I am quite sure most 5-10 yr olds are not either. My childs IQ is off the charts, but it has nothing to do with intelligence. It has to do with experience. I'm quite sure that many of the adult voters out there are not the best judges(perhaps even myself)but still a child especially under 10 just is not ready to judge.
For instance they might look at the photo of lets say soda and think "I don't like that soda so I'll give that photo a 1". That's how a childs mind at that age works.
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While you have a valid point with the soda drink example.
How ever Technical presision and Composition are all about beauty and what makes things attractive. My point was Teenagers are often more influenced (on a subconsious level) by these things than younger children. Though children (and Clay :P) are more likely to act on lateral thought process's... |
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08/13/2002 01:15:18 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by TerryGee:
I guess a child can have an eye for beauty, but that is not all that is being judged here.When I receive comments, a lot of them break it down to technical, meeting the challenge, composition, etc.
My son is not able to judge these things, and I am quite sure most 5-10 yr olds are not either. My childs IQ is off the charts, but it has nothing to do with intelligence. It has to do with experience. I'm quite sure that many of the adult voters out there are not the best judges(perhaps even myself)but still a child especially under 10 just is not ready to judge.
For instance they might look at the photo of lets say soda and think "I don't like that soda so I'll give that photo a 1". That's how a childs mind at that age works.
But what better place/way for them to learn critical analysis than here?
I've only helped my son vote (and submit) a couple of times, but here's how we did it:
As each photo came up I'd ask him if it was really good, kinda good, or not-so-good, and why (what he liked or didn't). We limited the voting choices to 3, 5 or 8 "smooth out" the effect. For the comments, I'd ask him "If the person who took this photo was sitting right here, what would you say to them?" and then I'd type in his answer.
I suggest adding a field for "parent's email address if you're under 13" to the registration form, and don't activate the account until you get back an email from that address with the parent's permission. I don't think anything else about the site needs to be changed -- if the rest of the world were as kid-safe as this site, we parents would have little to worry about.
And I don't think it hurts a bit for any commenter to have to remember that their comment may be headed for a kid.
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/13/2002 1:16:06 PM. |
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