Originally posted by glad2badad:
Quote from this thread (interesting read):
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
One more time around the mulberry bush :-( Unfortunately, Kasaba's image, like the former blue ribbon, contains objects created in a modelling program outside of, and imported into, Photoshop. These files are .PNG format, and they do not have any EXIF data we can use to validate who created them and when. Accordingly we have to DQ images that use these modeled objects as part of their submission.
We acknowledge there's been some confusion about this, particularly with regard to Gyaban, because unfortunately his "Blue" entry used a LOT of these files and was, in fact, validated not too long ago. It seems like we had a collective blindness on SC and nobody caught that these elements were naked with regard to EXIF. Compounding this, we'd earlier had a long discussion with Christophe about how he wanted to use the modeling programs, and although we did have some misgivings we did give him the green light to experiment. The first experiment, then, was the "Blue" entry, the underwater saxophone player.
Unfortunately, we misunderstood what Christophe was planning to do: we thought he was going to wrap photographic objects around wireframe models. However, actually what he wanted to do, and what he and, in this case, Kasaba have done, is to create the objects entirely in the modeling program and import them into Photoshop for assembly. SC, collectively, feel like this is straying way too far from the intended scope of the Expert Editing rules:
Originally posted by Expert Rules:
Your submission must be: composed only from photographs taken after the challenge is announced and before the deadline, based on the Current Server Time (US Eastern Standard/Daylight Time) displayed at the bottom of every page on this site.
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Because we have not been entirely clear about this, we are registering these two DQs as "no-penalty" DQs, meaning they won't be applied against any potential time limits for suspensions etc. We will also work to clarify the Expert Editing rules and dial ourselves back from where we have gotten to in these challenges. I'm sure many of you have opinions you'd like to share on this :-)
Incidentally, I'm writing this without running it by the rest of SC first because I think we need to make clear what's happening. But it may well be (probably WILL be) that there will be a lot of discussion in SC forum about that last paragraph of mine :-) |
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Yikes, so I am also in hot water now! I can't recall this whole issue (don't always follow the forum enough :-(), but assume it had to do with using flames and/or fractals I created.
So pls to clarify, will these now also be allowed in Extended Editing?
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