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10/13/2004 10:37:52 AM · #1
I have never asked for extra feedback on a challenge photo before. I am looking for some on my "Parts" photo though. I'm not complaining about my score on this, but I am curious about the overall dislike of it in general.


"I Am Not Lost"

From the comments I received on this photo, the only conclusion I can draw is that this photo wasn't particularly well-received because the 'part' was not identifiable. I chose an abstract view of this subject which makes it relatively impossible to know what you are looking at unless you are already familiar with the subject. I saw this challenge as a nice opportunity for such a photo.

The Entire Sculpture

This is the 'entire' sculpture. As a whole, I don't particularly like this sculpture. The piece is located on the grounds of the local art museum. The art museum itself is housed in an old school building here in town, and this piece of sculpture, to me, looks entirely out of place in its setting. The landscaping around the sculpture is not well-kept either. What I do like about the sculpture are the various shapes and textures and the way the sunlight interacts with it.


10/13/2004 10:46:14 AM · #2
"This photo wasn't particularly well-received because the 'part' was not identifiable."

I think this is your answer. I think it is a very interesting abstract. You made something quite nice from something pretty hideous in my opinion. The score doesn't show it, but I could see this working quite nicely in an art museum. I actually wondered if it was some sort of duct work.
10/13/2004 10:50:04 AM · #3
I think dartompkins is right... I didn't vote on this picture, but would have probably voted it high because I like abstracts. But the first reaction is "What? Part of what?", and that could have caused a low score.
On a different note though, you have managed to create something quite beautiful from something that looks quite ugly to me.. Great eye!
10/13/2004 10:53:37 AM · #4
Hey John, glad to see some abstract work from you - it's one of my favorite genres.

I like the play of light and the textures in this image but there's just something about it that's kind of hard to put my finger on. Maybe it's that there is no where for the eyes to rest in the image. Just an idea but you might try burning in the background in the lower left corner so that it has the smokey feel of the upper right corner. I think that would bring the out the curves and give the image the pop that it needs. Not sure that I'm keen on the border either as it conflicts with the image in an odd way.

Just MHO - hope it's been helpful :-)
10/13/2004 11:00:24 AM · #5
I did not vote this challenge so I didn't score your shot. I would have given it a 6.
I like the textures as well, and the way the light plays off the stainless steel. I also like the OOF pattern created by the background metal.
There's something about the composition, though, that just leaves my impression short of where I'd expect; I usually score abstracts highly, I'm partial to them. I wonder if changing the angle slightly to have the lines leading in from the lower right corner would improve the impact, give it a more dynamic feel?
10/13/2004 11:02:27 AM · #6
I remember that when I looked at it I couldn't really tell what it was; that it looked like a well crafted image; and also wondering if it was really that chrome color of if it had been desaturated. This may not fit with your intentions but perhaps a less close-up view, with a little background to give context, would have earned a little bit higher score from dpc voters. Just my 2 cents.
10/13/2004 11:05:55 AM · #7
Originally posted by kirbic:

I wonder if changing the angle slightly to have the lines leading in from the lower right corner would improve the impact, give it a more dynamic feel?


That was actually my original intent but I couldn't frame the shot successfully that way. The one of the edges of the big 'disc' came into the shot.

I made two visits to this sculpture during the challenge week. On the first visit, I found the segment of it I wanted to photograph. There were several possibilities, but this segment seemed to appeal to me more. I dind't like the way the sun was hitting it at that time though. I went back the next day one hour earlier to get the light I was looking for.
10/13/2004 11:32:19 AM · #8
I'm normally a big fan of abstracts, but I'm afraid this doesn't do a lot for me.
I think the lack of sharpness at the bottom of the frame doesn't look deliberate enough, same with the burnt out highlights. I don't feel there are enough lines, shapes and textures to keep my eye interested, and I don't like the mood of the duotone. I think it is a little offputting that you can't work out what it is, as it's not quite abstract enough for this to not bother me. There's something just a little 'ugly' about it that I can't quite put my finger on. The title doesn't really make a lot of sense as far as I can figure out in relation to the mood of this shoot.
Hope this helps!
10/17/2004 08:41:55 PM · #9
I'm typing one-handed at the moment, so luckily Bobster pretty much nailed my opinion. I gave it a four.
10/17/2004 09:32:53 PM · #10
JMSetzler,
I actually gave you a 6 on this. I didn't know what it was, but that is not always important to me. I find it suiting that after viewing the entire sculpture I still don't know what it is. I think your rendition compliments the artist's intentions in that regard.
I like the buffed metal surface and the colors you used to bring out the detail. I particularly like the dark area at the top, but it's just a little unbalanced. The bottom left is wasted space, burning it back would help balance out the shot for me. It is an abstract, but changing the original picture to balance it out falls under the picture integrity thing. That is one of the areas where you need to please yourself.

I enjoy your work, It's fun to see you exploring a new genre with your talent.
10/17/2004 09:49:09 PM · #11
I think you did your best with what you included. However, you selected a part of a complete piece of artwork, much like selecting a phrase from a paragraph and left the audience wondering. Of course, you wanted to present a novel study but left our eyes swimming in uncertainty. The tones are very nice and the lighting very interesting but the eyes are trapped with no reward. Just an observation.
10/17/2004 11:40:12 PM · #12
I wonder if you didn't fall victim to it looking (at first, very brief glance) too overprocessed; like you ran it through a photoshop filter. That was the first impression, but that didn't seem like something you would do, so I rejected it. I didn't vote, but I don't see anything significantly pulling me into the image to warrant looking at it as closely as I did here. This is not to give you the idea I am a 3 sec voter, or anything like that -- but if there is nothing that pulls me into the image, then there is nothing to pull me into the image. I won't guess what I would have given it, but it wouldn't have been exceptionally high.

David
10/17/2004 11:44:20 PM · #13
I voted it a 6. I liked the texture, and the lighting is quite exceptional but honestly felt lost myself from looking at it. I couldn't figure out what it was, so didn't really get behind it. I found with the Parts challenge, that was the most difficult. A picture can be perfect, and yet without an idea of what it is, feeling good about it was tough for me.
10/17/2004 11:59:42 PM · #14
I looked at this one pretty long trying to figure out what it was. Neither my roomy or i could find what it was, so we guessed it was a light on a car as one part resembles that. I gave it a 6 even tho I wasn't sure what it was.
10/18/2004 12:15:55 AM · #15
Hey! I like this shot quite a bit, but it's not the kind of thing that I think would go over well here because it asks more questions than it answers. Only suggestion I have is that it might be a bit out of balance. By that I just mean that all the dark areas are at the top and all the light areas are at the bottom. I tried standing on my head to see what it would look like upside down but it still seems off balance. I'm not sure if that is good or bad.
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