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10/09/2004 07:29:09 PM · #126 |
Originally posted by ScottK:
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
Originally posted by emorgan49:
During the first debate when Bush said bin Laden when he meant Saddam Hussein do you think it was an accident or deliberate? I just wonder since Rumsfeld made the same slip twice in a speech a couple of weeks before. Are we, the general public, supposed to be confused between the two? |
Ellen, that sounds to me like the "RATS" ads that the Bush administration ran in 2000 against Gore. |
No, this is what sounds like the "RATS" ads from 2000.
(Both assertions seem pretty stupid to me, but if you want to play stupid paranoia games, at least get it right.) |
That's right, Scott...NBC posted it because they were pissed about it when it happened back in 2000 presidential race. So how does it feel to have the shoe on the other foot? |
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10/09/2004 08:27:50 PM · #127 |
First, online polls anywere are almost always wrong; I don't care who runs them. Never trust thm or believe them. The only thing they are good for is telling you what the specific clientell that the site gets think.
It's not suprising that a Poll that CNN ran asking if rathergate (the FORGED military docments by democrats) should be investigated further in order to find out who was behind it had an outcome of 80% voting for no further investigation... Gee; I wonder why?
Polls on CNN are inherently liberal leaning and polls on Fox News are typically more cnservative leaning. To fight this, a few liberal groups on the last debate got thousands of people (fellow liberals) to vote on the Fox News website in order to bring the number to a more 50/50.
Second, even scientific polls are faulty. So much of it has to do with how a question is worded and the order they ask the questions. Go get a hold of a couple FULL polling questioneers from ABC & CBS, there is no way there is not a pointed bias in them. And this goes for everyone. I've worked for ZOGBY International, no such thing as a completly unbiased polling questioneer... |
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10/09/2004 10:15:59 PM · #128 |
I don't know how the polling organizations pick their people to poll. I have never been polled, but I have made the decision that if a polling company ever does poll me, rather than tell them 'no comment' or 'none of your business', I am simply going to lie to them. For example, if I intend to vote for candidate 'A' I will tell them candidate 'B', if I intend to vote 'yes' I will tell them 'no', etc.
I don't like polls or polling organizations; I think they do far more harm than good. The worst by-product of these polls is people not bothering to vote because the poll results have made them either too discouraged or too smug. I wonder how many people actually do lie to the pollsters. |
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10/18/2004 03:00:37 PM · #129 |
Appears to have been another flip-flop.
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