I Give Up - PsCC Save File - Help!!!

03/12/2015 11:04:41 AM · #1

I've searched and can't seem to find what I need. I'm coming to you for help -

I recently got a new computer, loaded my PsCC. It still has the original "Preferences". I need to change my Save File choice from Tiff to PSD. I know I can do it but I can't find Preferences in the CC version. I can find all kinds of links for older versions but not PsCC!!!

And I have a feeling it's going to be a very ~~simple~~ obvious fix...

Thank you

Luciemac

Nikon D5600

03/12/2015 11:31:10 AM · #2

Ja-9, I don't own PSCC, but I think you can find preferences under the "edit" menu, near the bottom. Good Luck!

03/12/2015 11:45:41 AM · #3

Yup, that's where the preferences menu lives, BUT there doesn't seem to be anything on it that relates to Ja-9's issue.

Janine, what do you use for a RAW processor? When I use DxO Optics Pro, which I mostly do, it exports to CC as a Tiff file and I have to save-as PSD the first time in CC, then it "sticks".

Canon RF 35mm f/1.8 IS Macro

03/12/2015 11:58:18 AM · #4

Yes I believe this may be the solution. Same goes for many Photoshop settings - it will pick up what was done previously.

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Janine, what do you use for a RAW processor? When I use DxO Optics Pro, which I mostly do, it exports to CC as a Tiff file and I have to save-as PSD the first time in CC, then it "sticks".

GeorgesBogaert

Canon RP

03/12/2015 11:59:21 AM · #5

Maybe this will help. I use PS CC and save most of the time in Tiff. Adobe is promoting the Tiff file over the PSD format as it gives more options and compatibility
//www.quepublishing.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2115887&seqNum=4

03/12/2015 12:02:24 PM · #6

Also, in Lightroom, go to preferences / external editing and the file type can be changed there. The default is TIF that is why I was suspecting that might be what you are using.

03/12/2015 12:02:32 PM · #7

I use Lr as my RAW processing> PsCC> do all my edits then "Save As". That's where I know I can change my preference to come up as PSD vs coming up as Tiff.

It should be in the Edit File but it's not there anymore on PsCC.

It's a simple preference choice...grrrrr

I'm just tired of always stopping to change it from Tiff to PSD. On my old computer using PsCC I used to always come up as PSD...I'm not sure if I changed the Preference for it (probably not) but in all the updates to PsCC I don't have the Preference choice anymore...(or at least they hid it well from me....hmmmmm could be a reason???)

03/12/2015 12:03:20 PM · #8

Originally posted by tate:

Also, in Lightroom, go to preferences / external editing and the file type can be changed there. The default is TIF that is why I was suspecting that might be what you are using.

ahhhhhhh...that could well be...

03/12/2015 12:06:07 PM · #9

Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

ok, so this brings up a good question (at least for me) why Tiff over PSD? Tiff files are again....soooooo muchhhhhh biggerrrrr! I already have storage space issues....

03/12/2015 12:11:57 PM · #10

Robert, my files transfer from Lr to PsCC as NEF files. I have changed the settings in Lr so I'll see if that helps.

but I can not find the "Preference" choice under "Edit". Either I'm blind (a good possibility) or it's just NOT there. So that article doesn't help (at least if I can't bloody well find the bugger).

But it was informative...

03/12/2015 12:12:40 PM · #11

I work in the Printing genre of the graphics world. Adobe started promoting use of the native Illustrator and PSD files a few years ago - must have been around when the released the Creative Suite (AI files and PSDs can be placed into Indesign). Strangely, LR defaults to TIF which I have used since just because I didn't really think about it. If you apply compression to the TIFs, the size might be closer to PSD - but other than compatiblity with other (non-adobe) software, I can't see why TIF would be preferred. However, it is lossless, unlike JPG.

Originally posted by Ja-9:

Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:
Maybe this will help. I use PS CC and save most of the time in Tiff. Adobe is promoting the Tiff file over the PSD format as it gives more options and compatibility
//www.quepublishing.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2115887&seqNum=4

ok, so this brings up a good question (at least for me) why Tiff over PSD? Tiff files are again....soooooo muchhhhhh biggerrrrr! I already have storage space issues....

Message edited by author 2015-03-12 12:26:25.

03/12/2015 12:18:23 PM · #12

another URL

03/12/2015 12:21:59 PM · #13

BTW: the article I posted did not mention EPS or PDF. Photoshop can create either, and will also include vector data in EPSs (a somewhat outdated format) if you so desire (for those that like to set type and draw in Photoshop). But regardless, I think TIF and PSD would be your most viable options for maintaining layers (text, filters etc). Personally I may switch to PSD after reading your post and it activating some synapses - especially if it turns out to generate much smaller files.

Message edited by author 2015-03-12 12:24:12.

Canon RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1 L IS USM

03/12/2015 12:30:03 PM · #14

Same problem - resolved?

JakeKurdsjuk

Canon EOS R5

03/12/2015 01:08:52 PM · #15

It's in LR Preferences->External Editing. Top dialog has a File Format drop down for PS CC 2014 where you can choose between TIFF and PSD, along with setting color space, bit depth and resolution.

When the file opens in PS it will show as a NEF file, but as soon as you Save it the format will change to PSD, as will the file name on the tab. This prevents the PSD file from actually being created until you want it (i.e. if you simply quit without saving there's no clean-up).

I've found little to no difference in file sizes between TIFF and PSD. My suspicion is that TIFF is more universally recognized as a file format should you want to send it to another program. I can't think of another reason to use it (I use PSD).

Message edited by author 2015-03-12 13:12:14.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

03/12/2015 02:24:45 PM · #16

Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

My suspicion is that TIFF is more universally recognized as a file format should you want to send it to another program.

That's correct -- almost all other programs recognize the TIFF format. From Photoshop you can save it with the LZW compression setting if you need to save space -- it is lossless. The PSD format uses proprietary compression so it will not always be the same size (on disk) as other formats with the same dimensions.

Newer versions of Photoshop can preserve Layers in the TIFF format, but I use TIFF only for final (flattened) composites; any time I want to preserve Layers I save as a PSD file.

03/12/2015 05:31:32 PM · #17

Thank you one and all...I think I've figured it out...it's the Lr that was causing the problem...

But I'd still like to know what happened to Preferences in PsCC??? Did they just plain eliminate it??? Mine updates with changes all the time so I hadn't noticed until now that it just wasn't there anymore....hmmmmm

Good links and better insight...I knew I could depend on you!!!

03/12/2015 05:40:00 PM · #18

Preferences in CC are right where they always were, at the bottom of the "Edit" menu; this issue just isn't one of the Photoshop preferences.

03/12/2015 05:50:19 PM · #19

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Preferences in CC are right where they always were, at the bottom of the "Edit" menu; this issue just isn't one of the Photoshop preferences.

It is not at the bottom of my Edit tab...I have looked 100 times. It's not there

03/13/2015 11:23:42 AM · #20

Originally posted by Ja-9:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Preferences in CC are right where they always were, at the bottom of the "Edit" menu; this issue just isn't one of the Photoshop preferences.

It is not at the bottom of my Edit tab...I have looked 100 times. It's not there

Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD Canon Mount

03/13/2015 11:40:47 AM · #21

I don't know what Tate's looking at, but my up-to-date CC has it thus:

Mike

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

03/13/2015 12:09:06 PM · #22

can i ask why you are choosing psd over tif?

in win 7 (not sure about 8) but psd over 1gb would crash my system (i think its a known bug)
if you use ~~tiff~~ PSD you may be stuck with PS, if you use tif you can usually open them in any image editor. this is especially important if you ever decide to allow your CC subscription to expire.

Message edited by Bear_Music - corrected.

03/13/2015 12:15:21 PM · #23

That is sooooo interesting Robert - yours is different from mine!!! And we both have PsCC!!! When I get hm I'll take a screen shot...then I'm going to see exactly what version I have (should be identical to yours) and check for any updates.

Mike, unless Ps goes belly up...I have no intention of not having some version of that...EVER!!! I love my PsCC!!! If I HAVE to I'll go back to Elements ....JUST SHOOT ME NOW!!!

03/13/2015 12:31:20 PM · #24

I'm on a mac. That might be the difference.
Or maybe it is the fact that I have so many versions LOL

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

I don't know what Tate's looking at, but my up-to-date CC has it thus: