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11/26/2014 07:57:31 AM · #1 |
I would like to officially protest to the powers that be. We are and international photographic community. If you do make a US-centric challenge topic, please do not do it on the weekly open challenge. For some of us it's the only challenge we can enter.
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11/26/2014 09:04:55 AM · #2 |
| Or if you're not celebrating Thanksgiving, simply photograph a nice meal you created. |
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11/26/2014 09:18:44 AM · #3 |
| no wonder people are rioting in Ferguson |
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11/26/2014 09:18:56 AM · #4 |
| I agree with you but this time the challenge is open to different interpretations (last year I got a ribbon in this one) |
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11/26/2014 09:20:04 AM · #5 |
On a side note, this should probably be Feast VI.
There has been "Giving Thanks" ('03), "Feast II" ('11), "Feast III" ('12), "Feast IV" ('08) and "Feast IV" ('13). Yep, "Feast IV" happened twice, and oddly, one of them happened before "Feast II"
As to the topic of the thread, an Italian won the yellow in the last Feast challenge. |
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11/26/2014 10:17:57 AM · #6 |
I disagree about this completely. It's not like a summer challenge when you don't have summertime.
Or if you're not celebrating Thanksgiving, simply photograph a nice meal you created.
We may have a reason to create a nice meal at this time of year. But hopefully people have time for one nice meal sometime this week. If it was a separate speed challenge (like I believe it's been the past), then maybe we have a leg up because we're already cooking during that 48 hours. But it's not. Maybe I should complain that Ja-9 has the advantage because she regularly cooks for her family instead of the frozen pizzas that I tend to stick in the oven. :) |
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11/26/2014 10:21:09 AM · #7 |
Personally, I enjoy the challenges centered around special days. If helps us remember to take pictures of things that actually matter from time to time.
It has been said many times: feel free to enter your own suggestions regarding times that are special to you or your own part of the country. I enjoy exploring. Actually, I'm making Plov tonight -- maybe that should be my meal. :) |
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11/26/2014 10:26:55 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Personally, I enjoy the challenges centered around special days. If helps us remember to take pictures of things that actually matter from time to time.
It has been said many times: feel free to enter your own suggestions regarding times that are special to you or your own part of the country. I enjoy exploring. Actually, I'm making Plov tonight -- maybe that should be my meal. :) |
Of course this time is different since the challenge is open to different interpretations, but we've had dozens of US centric challenges which didn't allow us, who don't live in the US, to take any shots (several fireworks challenges for instance, but not only) |
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11/26/2014 10:33:23 AM · #9 |
@ damjanev- just be thankful these are considerably global in appreciation- most places have feasts, many cultures appreciate fireworks, have veterans, flags etc.
There could be "Nascar" "Real housewives" or "Kardashian" challenges- but I suppose every village has it's own idiots, so those challenges might be applicable as well... |
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11/26/2014 06:47:32 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Personally, I enjoy the challenges centered around special days. If helps us remember to take pictures of things that actually matter from time to time.
It has been said many times: feel free to enter your own suggestions regarding times that are special to you or your own part of the country. I enjoy exploring. Actually, I'm making Plov tonight -- maybe that should be my meal. :) |
I think you are actually highlighting the OP's actual issue. The special days in question for many of these challenges are only special in the US (Thanksgiving and 4th of July are the two that come to mind). I would venture to guess if I had suggested Feast V (with the exact same description) for early October (Canadian thanksgiving), it would fall on deaf ears.
Not many of us create a photo worthy feast when there isn't a special occasion.
It doesn't really matter to me personally, as I would not likely have entered the challenge in either case, but I think the OP has a valid point. |
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11/26/2014 07:20:40 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by rcollier:
I think you are actually highlighting the OP's actual issue. The special days in question for many of these challenges are only special in the US (Thanksgiving and 4th of July are the two that come to mind). I would venture to guess if I had suggested Feast V (with the exact same description) for early October (Canadian thanksgiving), it would fall on deaf ears. |
I think I disagree with your last statement -- I can't promise it would have been scheduled because I have no control over that, but I doubt it would have been ignored.
This year we did Cinco de Mayo II (which means we've done it at least once before), though some may argue whether the current version is more us- or mexico-centric.
The key is to post your suggestion for a non-US-centric special occasion -- Tet, Chinese New Year, Guy Fawkes Day, etc. -- in the challenge suggestions thread, from which it will be transferred to the pool of topics available for scheduling.
A follow-up bump to the post or sending a DPC Administrative Ticket (goes straight to Langdon) 2-3 weeks before the event as a reminder might improve the chances of it being scheduled at the right time.
FWIW similar considerations are needed when dealing with season-based challenges, since we have many members in both the northern and southern hemispheres ... |
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11/26/2014 07:49:21 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by rcollier:
I think you are actually highlighting the OP's actual issue. The special days in question for many of these challenges are only special in the US (Thanksgiving and 4th of July are the two that come to mind). I would venture to guess if I had suggested Feast V (with the exact same description) for early October (Canadian thanksgiving), it would fall on deaf ears. |
I think I disagree with your last statement -- I can't promise it would have been scheduled because I have no control over that, but I doubt it would have been ignored.
This year we did Cinco de Mayo II (which means we've done it at least once before), though some may argue whether the current version is more us- or mexico-centric.
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Isn't this also a pretty big celebration in the US as well? A significant portion of your population is of Mexican descent.
That being said, I don't think it is a huge issue if the majority of members are from the US anyway, but I have no idea what the current demographics of DPC members is.
Originally posted by GeneralE:
The key is to post your suggestion for a non-US-centric special occasion -- Tet, Chinese New Year, Guy Fawkes Day, etc. -- in the challenge suggestions thread, from which it will be transferred to the pool of topics available for scheduling.
A follow-up bump to the post or sending a DPC Administrative Ticket (goes straight to Langdon) 2-3 weeks before the event as a reminder might improve the chances of it being scheduled at the right time.
FWIW similar considerations are needed when dealing with season-based challenges, since we have many members in both the northern and southern hemispheres ...
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I don't think this would help. Choosing celebrations that are popular across a broad geographical and/or cultural domains makes sense, as they are more inclusive, but the more specific the celebration, the more exclusive the challenge becomes. This would simply end up in challenges with a very small number of entries, which is not good for the health of the site.
I suspect out of your examples, the Chinese New Year might be the only viable one, but this is due to the large number of Chinese communities celebrating, often publicly around the world.
PS - On a slightly related topic, are there many places that celebrate Guy Fawkes Day (or Bonfire Night as it was to me when I was a kid)? Since I moved provinces, I don't think anyone I know here in Ottawa has even heard of it. |
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11/26/2014 07:56:11 PM · #13 |
| Change "feast' to "food" & post it when nobody has a reason to celebrate anything. |
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11/26/2014 07:59:33 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by rcollier:
PS - On a slightly related topic, are there many places that celebrate Guy Fawkes Day (or Bonfire Night as it was to me when I was a kid)? Since I moved provinces, I don't think anyone I know here in Ottawa has even heard of it. |
I watch a lot of (older) British mysteries and comedies (on PBS) -- I know it figures rather prominently in one of the Poirot episodes, and I suspect I've heard it mentioned elsewhere as well.
I'm not sure we should be highlighting that particular holiday though -- these days the idea of blowing up the legislature might easily catch on ... :-( |
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11/26/2014 08:02:27 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by pixelpig:
Change "feast' to "food" & post it when nobody has a reason to celebrate anything. |
We do that already -- but usually ask people include the Recipe (I of IV). |
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11/27/2014 07:40:20 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
The key is to post your suggestion for a non-US-centric special occasion -- Tet, Chinese New Year, Guy Fawkes Day, etc. -- in the challenge suggestions thread, from which it will be transferred to the pool of topics available for scheduling.
A follow-up bump to the post or sending a DPC Administrative Ticket (goes straight to Langdon) 2-3 weeks before the event as a reminder might improve the chances of it being scheduled at the right time.
FWIW similar considerations are needed when dealing with season-based challenges, since we have many members in both the northern and southern hemispheres ... |
When was Feast V put in a suggestion as a suggestion in the challenge thread?
I do know that a thread was made to include July 1st in the date range for the July 4th speed challenge and this request has been made for as long as I have been here (only four years) so I don't think it's as clear cut as suggested. With that being said everyone can become a member so they have more opportunity to enter as members are not limited to one challenge topic a week. |
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11/27/2014 08:03:12 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by bvy:
Or if you're not celebrating Thanksgiving, simply photograph a nice meal you created. |
It would seem that you missed the primary intent of the OP, which (to me anyway) was to bring to the fore that a number of "special event" challenges are geared to those who reside in the USA.
I well remember exactly how I felt when we had the 4th of July challenge, particularly when I consider the fact that we had our fireworks on the 1st.
It may come as a shock to some, but there are holidays other than those celebrated exclusively in the USA and it would be nice if consideration were given to recognizing that fact.
Ray |
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11/27/2014 08:05:29 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by rcollier:
PS - On a slightly related topic, are there many places that celebrate Guy Fawkes Day (or Bonfire Night as it was to me when I was a kid)? Since I moved provinces, I don't think anyone I know here in Ottawa has even heard of it. |
Perhaps you don't know the right people.
I have many British and Scottish friends who celebrate that on a yearly basis.
Ray |
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11/27/2014 05:44:52 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by rcollier:
PS - On a slightly related topic, are there many places that celebrate Guy Fawkes Day (or Bonfire Night as it was to me when I was a kid)? Since I moved provinces, I don't think anyone I know here in Ottawa has even heard of it. |
Perhaps you don't know the right people.
I have many British and Scottish friends who celebrate that on a yearly basis.
Ray |
Yes, that I can understand as it is primarily celebrated in the UK.
I grew up in rural Newfoundland and we would spend days after school and on the weekends gathering wood for Bonfire Night. On that night, you would see a dozen or so bonfires all around the bay, and we are talking large bonfires 15-20 ft. in diameter with wood piled 15 ft. high. Actually, I am not even sure if it was popular in other areas of Newfoundland.
I think I kind of unintentionally hijacked this thread. |
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11/27/2014 07:19:49 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
It would seem that you missed the primary intent of the OP, which (to me anyway) was to bring to the fore that a number of "special event" challenges are geared to those who reside in the USA.
I well remember exactly how I felt when we had the 4th of July challenge, particularly when I consider the fact that we had our fireworks on the 1st.
It may come as a shock to some, but there are holidays other than those celebrated exclusively in the USA and it would be nice if consideration were given to recognizing that fact.
Ray |
My original point exactly.
Thanksgiving, 4th of July, Cinco de Mayo (this includes Mexico but nothing more and it's big in the US too), Halloween (i don't know where else this is celebrated. for example we have our costume parties on April 1st and January 13th and none of them in a scary way), St. Patrick's day (this also includes Ireland, but it's big in the US too)... We have them all. And it's OK to have them all, but this time it's the weekly open challenge, the only occasion a registered user can submit to a challenge. Speed or special challenges are the right way to have them (and include July 1st for the fireworks challenge. there is no reason not to and at least 880 reasons to do it).
On the other hand we have had none of Guy Fawkes Day, Bastille Day, Remembrance Day, Koningsdag, Chinese New Year (which would be big in the US too), Festa del tricolore, Tag der Deutschen Einheit, Canada Day, Australia Day, Queen's Birthday (probably observed all around the Commonwealth), Victory Day (observed by many nations around the world with big parade in Moscow and a naval display in London)...
On the topic of the current challenge (Feast V).
I know that the there is a "... if you're not celebrating Thanksgiving, simply photograph a nice meal you created" clause, but when the primary topic is Thanksgiving, people (voters) expect a Thanksgiving style of feast (turkey and all). Everything else will be slightly off the main topic. The majority of the US members will have a feast and a holiday atmosphere by the nature of the day. The rest of the world will have to create it from scratch. Same as with 4th of July and fireworks. There ARE fireworks on 4th of July in the USA, but not in the rest of the world.
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11/27/2014 09:12:52 PM · #21 |
The trick would be to suggest a challenge that is similar to what the foreign holiday is known for...
for example, if the holiday in Guam is "Sapper's Day" don't suggest that, suggest "beach wrestling" the thing that Sapper's day in Guam is known for...
Those type of suggestions might get some traction. |
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11/27/2014 09:53:52 PM · #22 |
Whaaaaaa.
Give me a break. |
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11/27/2014 10:11:54 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by chazoe:
Whaaaaaa.
Give me a break. |
brilliant satire of the ugly American. |
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11/28/2014 01:11:07 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by chazoe:
Whaaaaaa.
Give me a break. |
It seems a lot of DPCers are taking that break. There are three challenges in voting and a total of 155 entries. That's an average of 52 people participating...not much of a feast at the challenge table these days... |
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11/28/2014 01:35:55 PM · #25 |
I'll have to take a picture of a nice meal. I made a thanksgiving feast, but I did not take the time to photograph it. It just takes too long to get it to the table and cools down too quickly. After all that time cooking, I wanted my family to have a warm meal!
So one cell phone picture, because my daughter wanted to send one out.
I wish I would have saved the carcass. I would have done a shot on that.
(that's a whole 'nother story. When we were married, we were half a country away from family, so I made the thanksgiving dinner for just the two of us. I made a HUGE pot of turkey soup with the carcass. It was very, very good. However, we didn't cook much, so we lived off of turkey soup for a very long time. (froze it in bags -- it freezes well).)
We have been married for 25 years now. And my husband still doesn't want me to make turkey soup. I'm just getting around to thinking about it.
My large soup pot smelled like turkey soup for years. Even though I made jams, jellies, and other preserves in that pot, it still had a smell of turkey soup.
So the carcass didn't get saved. |
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