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08/28/2014 10:22:37 PM · #1 |
The latest photoshop fail when representing 'reality'.
Read the text, but also view the video for the model's opinion. |
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08/28/2014 10:37:20 PM · #2 |
I think the only thing Target regrets is... not hiring a better Photoshopper. :D
And... HOW is a screen capture of the image showing the bad Photoshop skills of an image that they do not own... due an "image credit" to the person who took a capture of someone else's photo?
All of this is just wrong. Weird.
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08/29/2014 07:25:05 AM · #3 |
Unfortunately it's so commonplace these days, it's almost to be expected from any and all model shoots. One almost has to just take it for granted that anytime you see an image of someone on a a magazine that it heavily retouched and liquified.
Its sad though, most of these models are stunning already. They don't *need* to be retouched!!
There does seem to be more and more backlash these days, though. So maybe one day we will see normal people!? |
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08/29/2014 07:35:41 AM · #4 |
Wanna haved some fun while sitting on the toilet?
Grab a Victoria secret catalog and try to find a freckle below the neck. |
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08/29/2014 08:29:32 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by nygold:
Wanna haved some fun while sitting on the toilet?
Grab a Victoria secret catalog and try to find a freckle below the neck. |
mine or theirs? cause i have about 10,000 - i'm a redhead ;-)
Message edited by author 2014-08-29 08:29:54. |
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08/29/2014 09:29:21 AM · #6 |
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08/29/2014 10:39:44 AM · #7 |
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08/29/2014 10:54:47 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Mike:
i dont see a problem. |
1) Too much photoshopping making a model very thin promotes unrealistic body expectations to an impressionable younger generation (and even older generation) that can turn to unhealthy practices - starving oneself, poor self-image, measuring oneself up to others instead of self/self-worth, etc.
2) It was done without consent. There should have been a contract agreement given that the company used the photographs to promote and advertise for commercial purposes. The company failed to secure a model release to use the photographs - and that shows a company with poor business practices. |
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08/29/2014 02:13:06 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by CNovack:
Originally posted by Mike:
i dont see a problem. |
1) Too much photoshopping making a model very thin promotes unrealistic body expectations to an impressionable younger generation (and even older generation) that can turn to unhealthy practices - starving oneself, poor self-image, measuring oneself up to others instead of self/self-worth, etc.
2) It was done without consent. There should have been a contract agreement given that the company used the photographs to promote and advertise for commercial purposes. The company failed to secure a model release to use the photographs - and that shows a company with poor business practices. |
who cares. women had unrealistic expectations of their bodies long before Photoshop. People always want to look at what they wish they could be. Is this any different than when painters used to paint women as more voluptuous because heavier women tended represent the upper class and weren't poor and starving? attractiveness sells always will. i was driving home yesterday and on the back of the truck was a cute young woman, she was killed by a texting driver, why did they pick her, why not some fat ugly girl? because attractiveness sells. humans are very superficial creatures its great to try and not be that way but its instinctual, just like racism, you wont ever get rid of it.
based on my daily perusing of people in this country we dont have enough Photoshop or at least people aren't striving hard enough to look good. besides few select very few, who actually strives to look sick and anorexic? most people wish to look fit and should strive to be fit.
ok so the commercial entity didn't have a model release that a legal issue, not really much to discuss on that matter. Photoshopping isn't contingent on securing a model release nor is asking permission.
Message edited by author 2014-08-29 15:53:31. |
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08/29/2014 02:16:50 PM · #10 |
You think women would like it, it gives heavier set women a chance at some modeling gigs.
Now you don't have to be 6'-1" and weigh 97 pounds to model. |
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08/29/2014 02:29:43 PM · #11 |
| I don't understand how someone who is not a woman knows that this does not affect women. There are some real psychic geniuses out there on the interwebs. |
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08/29/2014 03:42:49 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by nygold:
You think women would like it, it gives heavier set women a chance at some modeling gigs.
Now you don't have to be 6'-1" and weigh 97 pounds to model. |
exactly right.. would you like to see an example or two or three?
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08/29/2014 03:44:16 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
I don't understand how someone who is not a woman knows that this does not affect women. There are some real psychic geniuses out there on the interwebs. |
i like to look at women and i prefer them to look good. i don't really care how they get there.
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08/29/2014 04:43:48 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by posthumous:
I don't understand how someone who is not a woman knows that this does not affect women. There are some real psychic geniuses out there on the interwebs. |
i like to look at women and i prefer them to look good. i don't really care how they get there. |
O...M...G... I'm heading for shelter before the mortars fall! |
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08/29/2014 06:38:48 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Mike:
who cares. women had unrealistic expectations of their bodies long before Photoshop. People always want to look at what they wish they could be. Is this any different than when painters used to paint women as more voluptuous because heavier women tended represent the upper class and weren't poor and starving? attractiveness sells always will. i was driving home yesterday and on the back of the truck was a cute young woman, she was killed by a texting driver, why did they pick her, why not some fat ugly girl? because attractiveness sells. humans are very superficial creatures its great to try and not be that way but its instinctual, just like racism, you wont ever get rid of it. |
Originally posted by Mike:
i like to look at women and i prefer them to look good. i don't really care how they get there. |
I believe your comparison is somewhat flawed, in that the past century poor women you are referring to did not force-feed themselves or stuff their faces with fatty, unhealthy food in order to look like the rich voluptuous counterparts. This for the obvious reason that they did not have access to that kind of diet. Also, the painting of their upper class sisters was not posted on every street corner, was not painted on the back of every horse carriage and not printed on two thirds of the pages in every book they read (if they were so lucky to own a book). These women were not continuously reminding of what they were not, and could never be. At least I hope not, as Iâm sure they had other more important things on their mind.
You may very well be right in saying that âPeople always want to look at what they wish they could beâ. For me the issue is that âcouldâ appears to now have been replaced by âshouldâ. What many people in todaysâ society think men and women âshouldâ look like, demonstrated in photo-manipulated pictures, is fare from what most of us âcouldâ look like. Manipulating the appearance of a model in a photo is not just about making them look fitâa feature that is achievable to most dedicated healthy people. The length of limbs are also altered and eyes, noses, cheekbones, hands (even fingers) are modified in ways that only plastic surgery could achieve in reality. I do not think that to be repetitively reminded that your features, that you cannot change, even if you wanted to, do not match the âidealâ is healthy for the mind and the body. I believe it may even discourage many people in a way that prevents them from addressing the health issues that they can change, and I believe it may weaken the sense of care of the self.
Care of the self, is for me the most important and attractive trait in any person, man or woman. You are probably right in that being attracted to beauty is instinctual, however, what is considered beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and ultimately current prevailing ideals. I believe that contemporary ideals are not achievable to most men and women, hence only possible by faking. I have no problems with you liking to look at women and preferring them to look good. I do the same with men. However, you say you donât care how they get there. Isnât the most important thing that itâs real? Iâm only curious, because it is to me. Also, I believe you are only half-right in saying that âhumans are very superficial creaturesâ. I think that most people construct presumptions about other people based on appearance. However, most adult, as they get to know the other person, root their impression in additional features. Iâm (almost) sure you do too :)
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08/29/2014 07:31:02 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Mike:
based on my daily perusing of people in this country we dont have enough Photoshop or at least people aren't striving hard enough to look good. |
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08/29/2014 08:22:56 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by nygold:
Wanna haved some fun while sitting on the toilet?
Grab a Victoria secret catalog and try to find a freckle below the neck. |
I have to say... This one thought that has never crossed my mind. Not that I am all that good at thinking... |
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08/30/2014 10:44:16 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by posthumous:
I don't understand how someone who is not a woman knows that this does not affect women. There are some real psychic geniuses out there on the interwebs. |
i like to look at women and i prefer them to look good. i don't really care how they get there. |
You know what Mike, if/when you can be comfortable looking into your child's eyes as they DIE from some STUPID FUCKED UP DISEASE associated with being mainlined FUCKED UP FAKE BODY IMAGES and STILL MAKE THE ABOVE COMMENT, I still won't want to talk to you.
Just sayin'. |
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08/30/2014 11:20:19 AM · #19 |
I looked through each of the photos they show in the slideshow, and laughed my butt off. I cannot imagine how these people are employed to do the editing and get paid bug bucks for it. I feel much better about my photoshop editing skills now.
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08/30/2014 11:21:57 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by ShutterPug:
I cannot imagine how these people are employed to do the editing and get paid bug bucks for it. |
They're NOT. Paid "big bucks", that is: this is entry-level production work. |
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08/30/2014 12:29:45 PM · #21 |
Reconsidered the necessity of this post.
Message edited by author 2014-08-30 13:19:37. |
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08/30/2014 12:38:19 PM · #22 |
Not here
Message edited by author 2014-08-30 12:39:30. |
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08/30/2014 03:46:11 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by ShutterPug:
I cannot imagine how these people are employed to do the editing and get paid bug bucks for it. |
They're NOT. Paid "big bucks", that is: this is entry-level production work. |
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I sure hope that's the case |
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08/31/2014 09:45:26 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by ArnaMarie:
Care of the self, is for me the most important and attractive trait in any person, man or woman. You are probably right in that being attracted to beauty is instinctual, however, what is considered beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and ultimately current prevailing ideals. I believe that contemporary ideals are not achievable to most men and women, hence only possible by faking. I have no problems with you liking to look at women and preferring them to look good. I do the same with men. However, you say you donât care how they get there. Isnât the most important thing that itâs real? Iâm only curious, because it is to me. Also, I believe you are only half-right in saying that âhumans are very superficial creaturesâ. I think that most people construct presumptions about other people based on appearance. However, most adult, as they get to know the other person, root their impression in additional features. Iâm (almost) sure you do too :) |
Attractive people will always rule the world.
you are absolutely right. i'm not saying that people need to look like perfection, just take care of themselves. eat healthy, workout, wear makeup, dress nice. every day people strive for perfection, so why is beauty so different?
there will always be people who take stuff to extremes and there will always be people who want to change things so that we don't have extremists.
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08/31/2014 09:47:28 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by pamb:
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by posthumous:
I don't understand how someone who is not a woman knows that this does not affect women. There are some real psychic geniuses out there on the interwebs. |
i like to look at women and i prefer them to look good. i don't really care how they get there. |
You know what Mike, if/when you can be comfortable looking into your child's eyes as they DIE from some STUPID FUCKED UP DISEASE associated with being mainlined FUCKED UP FAKE BODY IMAGES and STILL MAKE THE ABOVE COMMENT, I still won't want to talk to you.
Just sayin'. |
there will always be people who cant handle the pressures of life.
blaming photoshop wont fix that. |
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