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08/21/2014 04:10:03 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Garry:
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by Garry:
Originally posted by skewsme:
Originally posted by Garry:
Not a subtle transgression of the rules either. Very surprising from the DPC veteran. |
how can you know without seeing orig? |
He lit candles that weren't originally lit, using PS. Don't need to see the original to know the Advanced Editing rules were obviously broken. |
You've already changed the description from what Shannon said, without seeing the original. Soon, you'll be accusing him of burning down the Reichstag. |
Please. So dramatic, Don.
In Manics original post " . In this case, lighting effects were added to the mirrored candles in post-processing to make them appear to be lit and glowing " |
Like I said, you changed the wording, added the assumption that they weren't lit in the first place, etc. I would rather see the original. |
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08/21/2014 04:19:41 PM · #27 |
| To me, the flames on all of the candles in the mirror look identical to one another, almost as if they were cloned in to place. But, I could be wrong. |
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08/21/2014 04:48:39 PM · #28 |
| how easily the masses turn on their idols! |
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08/21/2014 05:56:59 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Soon, you'll be accusing him of burning down the Reichstag. |
WHAT... Shannon burned down the Reichstag... good grief, I am ever so glad I took photos the last time I visited. :O)
Ray |
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08/21/2014 06:01:19 PM · #30 |
No, no, no... CHRISTOPHE burned it down.
Ray, try to keep up.
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08/21/2014 06:03:15 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
how easily the masses turn on their idols! |
How easily you generalize. Don't remember making him an idol. |
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08/21/2014 06:18:46 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Garry:
Don't remember making him an idol. |
Idol, voodoo doll, action figure... it's all the same. |
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08/21/2014 08:08:45 PM · #33 |
*poking thread with 10-ft pole* OK, not going there...though I did express concern in a PM to another DPCer that maybe he'd gotten a little over-happy with the cloning tool in removing his face and hand. That was before I read his notes and I always thought so long as it was your own artwork you were f***ing with, all was OK. Though creating flames on unlit candles...yeah...sorry, Christophe :-(
And holy ring-around-the-collar, Batman! Bahaahahahaaaaa...
*ducking now*
Message edited by author 2014-08-21 20:10:39. |
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08/21/2014 08:22:46 PM · #34 |
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08/21/2014 08:33:52 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
I always thought so long as it was your own artwork you were f***ing with, all was OK. |
Sure... in Expert Editing. This was Advanced, and if you can't clone all that out in Photoshop, then it would hardly make sense to allow this same thing with artwork. |
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08/21/2014 08:51:17 PM · #36 |
| I have no opinion, except to say, even without flaming wings, the vampire dentistry shot was growing on me. |
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08/21/2014 11:45:54 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by snaffles:
I always thought so long as it was your own artwork you were f***ing with, all was OK. |
Sure... in Expert Editing. This was Advanced, and if you can't clone all that out in Photoshop, then it would hardly make sense to allow this same thing with artwork. |
you've come a long way from the flying goldfish. |
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08/22/2014 02:03:41 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by Garry:
He lit candles that weren't originally lit, using PS. |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Though creating flames on unlit candles... |
The candles were already lit. Why in the world would I print out unlit candles? As I said in the description of my entry, the real reflected image was first photographed with everything consistent, which includes flames obviously.
What I did is I made the flames much brighter, because of course, printed flames do not generate light like real ones. The "added feature" is about the (subtle) glow around them, that was not visible on the print. |
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08/22/2014 04:15:22 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by gyaban:
The "added feature" is about the (subtle) glow around them, that was not visible on the print. |
Well I think the only honorable thing you can do is to pack up and box all your wonderful, ribbon-winning equipment, I'll be there in the morning to take it off your hands.
But just so that we understand one another, if I do not jump into first place in the ribbons-race within, oh say three weeks to be reasonable, you'll be hearing from my attorney.
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08/22/2014 05:49:58 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by gyaban:
Originally posted by Garry:
He lit candles that weren't originally lit, using PS. |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Though creating flames on unlit candles... |
The candles were already lit. Why in the world would I print out unlit candles? As I said in the description of my entry, the real reflected image was first photographed with everything consistent, which includes flames obviously.
What I did is I made the flames much brighter, because of course, printed flames do not generate light like real ones. The "added feature" is about the (subtle) glow around them, that was not visible on the print. |
Exactly !
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08/22/2014 08:28:27 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by gyaban:
Originally posted by Garry:
He lit candles that weren't originally lit, using PS. |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Though creating flames on unlit candles... |
The candles were already lit. Why in the world would I print out unlit candles? As I said in the description of my entry, the real reflected image was first photographed with everything consistent, which includes flames obviously.
What I did is I made the flames much brighter, because of course, printed flames do not generate light like real ones. The "added feature" is about the (subtle) glow around them, that was not visible on the print. |
Sorry to hear about this Christophe. It's a great image with tremendious vision and effort put into it.
Maybe next time it would be safer to just hire a real vampire; I'm sure you can find some in Paris. :)
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edit: maybe if you find one now you can commisserate over a nice chilled O- while you discuss payment for future shoots?
Message edited by author 2014-08-22 08:29:23. |
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08/22/2014 11:49:52 AM · #42 |
| wow... I've added glow to candles. And I've fixed blurry things like on Lydia's distorted... Maybe I've just done it more subtly or something. But these are seeming a little odd to me. Would Christophe's image have been at all able to get the same by just playing with the exposure, contrast, brightness in RAW? Candles do seem to glow more and less when you play with the exposure. Though it's easier just to put a yellow circular gradient on it. |
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