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01/29/2014 12:21:36 PM · #26

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Mike:
let me simplify it for you, if you use a camera (or any device that capture and converts light to a visible image) its photography.

its all art because someone can argue it is and you can appreciate it if you want to.

So, photograms aren't photography? How about manually etching an image onto a glass plate, then making a contact print of that?

A painting converts the light falling on it to an image

ok so a photosensitive material needs to be utilized, image sensor/film...

paint doesn't count.

pixelpig

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01/29/2014 12:51:12 PM · #27

We argue about art & photography because it's fun.

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01/29/2014 01:06:23 PM · #28

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by posthumous:
As is often the case, the article understates the amount of experimentation that has already occurred. The boundary between art and photography has been blurry since Manet painted a candid of a woman and child waiting around for a train.

Considering that photography essentially evolved from a tool used by painters and other artists for centuries prior to the development of a means to chemically "fix" the image, I'd say the line was blurry long before "photography" came into being.

Why Didn't the Romans Invent Photography?

01/29/2014 01:09:44 PM · #29

Originally posted by pixelpig:

We argue about art & photography because it's fun.

exactly. too many people take it too seriously.

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01/29/2014 03:26:30 PM · #30

Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Mike:
let me simplify it for you, if you use a camera (or any device that capture and converts light to a visible image) its photography.

its all art because someone can argue it is and you can appreciate it if you want to.

So, photograms aren't photography? How about manually etching an image onto a glass plate, then making a contact print of that?

A painting converts the light falling on it to an image

ok so a photosensitive material needs to be utilized, image sensor/film...

paint doesn't count.

isn't the cornea photosensitive?

tanguera

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01/29/2014 03:28:30 PM · #31

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Mike:
let me simplify it for you, if you use a camera (or any device that capture and converts light to a visible image) its photography.

its all art because someone can argue it is and you can appreciate it if you want to.

So, photograms aren't photography? How about manually etching an image onto a glass plate, then making a contact print of that?

A painting converts the light falling on it to an image

ok so a photosensitive material needs to be utilized, image sensor/film...

paint doesn't count.

isn't the cornea photosensitive?

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01/29/2014 03:29:12 PM · #32

Originally posted by Spork99:

isn't the cornea photosensitive?

by default yes, but it doesn't count, or else simply viewing the world would be considered photography.

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01/29/2014 03:31:14 PM · #33

Originally posted by Spork99:

isn't the cornea photosensitive?

No, and fixing an image on the cornea may prove hazardous should you ever try to drive again. The retina contains the eye's photoreceptors (rods and cones).

The "graph" root means to write, so whatever photography is, I think it involves an image preserved on a physical medium for some duration longer than the "reset rate" of retinal cells.

Message edited by author 2014-01-29 15:32:12.

01/29/2014 03:39:48 PM · #34

is all this scientific talk turning anyone else on?

rooum

01/29/2014 04:01:54 PM · #35

Originally posted by Mike:

is all this scientific talk turning anyone else on?

I quite like the old belief that the visage of a murderer is implanted onto the eyes of their victim just before death. Would make for an interesting project.

01/29/2014 04:06:49 PM · #36

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Spork99:
isn't the cornea photosensitive?

No, and fixing an image on the cornea may prove hazardous should you ever try to drive again. The retina contains the eye's photoreceptors (rods and cones).

The "graph" root means to write, so whatever photography is, I think it involves an image preserved on a physical medium for some duration longer than the "reset rate" of retinal cells.

Why not? So a digital image isn't a photograph either then until it's printed?

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01/29/2014 04:13:44 PM · #37

Originally posted by Spork99:

Why not? So a digital image isn't a photograph either then until it's printed?

Until it's printed or displayed it's just a file consisting of ones and zeros, essentially meaningless until interpreted by software. Hold up a CD and see if you can see the images on it ...

01/29/2014 06:16:36 PM · #38

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Spork99:
Why not? So a digital image isn't a photograph either then until it's printed?

Until it's printed or displayed it's just a file consisting of ones and zeros, essentially meaningless until interpreted by software. Hold up a CD and see if you can see the images on it ...

So, if you use equipment to view it, it's not a photograph?

I guess slides aren't photographs and people can't see photographs without taking off their glasses

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01/29/2014 10:32:46 PM · #39

what are you talking about?

Bear_Music

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02/04/2014 02:48:55 PM · #40

Bumping for

spork :-)

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02/04/2014 03:07:09 PM · #41

Originally posted by Spork99:

So, if you use equipment to view it, it's not a photograph?

I guess slides aren't photographs and people can't see photographs without taking off their glasses

You must have missed this part (emphasis added):

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Spork99:
Why not? So a digital image isn't a photograph either then until it's printed?

Until it's printed or displayed it's just a file consisting of ones and zeros, essentially meaningless until interpreted by software. Hold up a CD and see if you can see the images on it ...

Of course what you see on the screen is a picture, but it's no longer a photograph once the power goes off. The file itself â�� a series of ones and zeros recorded in some fashion* â�� is not a photograph.

*Cuniform tablets have a proven 4000+ year archival life â�� and are easily adaptable to recording binary data.

Message edited by author 2014-02-04 15:07:39.

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02/04/2014 03:40:38 PM · #42

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Bumping for spork :-)

Wrong spork...

Must be your first day on the job...

Dr.Confuser

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02/04/2014 06:59:19 PM · #43

Robert Frost once said that "Poetry is anything created by a poet."

To paraphrase, "Photography is any image created by a photographer."

Maybe let's get over ourselves and simply enjoy the images.