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01/15/2014 06:49:23 PM · #51 |
Okay, I have been here a few years. I also know what the SC can and can not do. They are bullied and ridiculed some times, there is a limit as to what and who and how their involvement is.
I HAVE dropped you MANY hint and innuendos as to where this site is going and what Langdon is going to do about it.
SO here let me stop the nonsense about the SC and Langdon, cus obviously it does not matter how many hints I give out everyone either thinks I am being a bitch or slamming memebers, so it does not sink in. Here are my private messages to and from Langdon. Just to make it clear to you ALL>
are giving up on this website. They are actually talking with professionalism and with thought in their answers. Everyone is getting bored out of their brains with things that are supposedly happening and then it doesn't happen.
There is only a certain amounts of times that you can flog a dead horse, and you are right now the dead horse.
So do you think you can save this community and give some positive answers and change.
People are leaving in droves man.
[i] Administratorlangdon
Reply | Quote | Reply In Private Hey Juliet, [/i]
I wouldn't say I'm giving it up. Unfortunately, given my current situation, I am not able to commit much of any time to the site. This is of course not fair to the user base, but it's something I have come to terms with recently. Should I ever find myself with some additional free time, I will gladly commit it to DPC again, but with the direction my life is currently headed, it doesn't seem like that will happen in the near future.
-Langdon
Registered UserJulietNN
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Eeek, that does not sound good, I am sorry , hopefully you current situation is heading in the right direction for you and yours! Would you like me to post your reply on the thread for you?
Registered UserJulietNN
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Do you want to sell??? If you do, give me a realistic price! One less burden on your shoulders!
Reply Message that I will not share:
Langdon is OUT. He started this website when he was like 2 years old and single, now he is married with a full time job , a wife and two children. HE does NOT have the time at the present moment.
YES it would be fabulous to see changes and meet with the demands of registered and members. The SC who do not get paid, who do this on their own time, who take time out of their family lives to help all you people and regulate what they are allowed too do. Can do no more than what they are doing. THEY can not make changes,. you can have a round table, but it is gonna end up round. Cus the Boss Man is not or can not put his time into this. He has other shit to do that is more important.
NOW the SC, I have seen so many of you abuse and attack them, I am surprised they are still here. Cus they know they are rowing a boat with no rudder, and they are doing the best they can. How many times a year do you have to be told they do this voluntarily, they take hours away from their families to do this and rule adn decide on what is the best. All I ever hear from you all is ohhhhhhhh SC fault, why can't they do more blah blah blah.,
YOU have all been told the LIMITS of what they can actually do on this site. And it aint a lot.
YOU want to CHANGE this site, then it is UP to YOU members and Registered Members to do it.
Cus I am telling you NOW, you are NOT going to get anything from up top.
Basically , this is YOUR site, and you change it to how you want it to be. Side challenges, teams , fight clubs.
YOU DO IT. cus nothing is going to change from the top downwards.
YOU want great challenges, THEN suggest them, cus every challenge that is given out here, IS ONE OF YOUR IDEAS YOU WROTE in the challenge suggestion box. They are picked by a frigging computer dudes. PUT in your challenge, put in the information you want in that challenge, make it masters, advance minium and the COMPUTER program will frigging pick it.
Dont put in Trees, advance cus it might get picked then you all bitch and whine. That is stupid, wont get picked or it will get picked, then you all whine and bitch about how boring the challenges are. LOOK at the challenges, HAVE you ever SEEN one that someone has NOT suggested. no they get picked.
DO NOT expect ANYTHING from Langdon, he has a life which is too busy right now.
YOU need to make it YOUR site, cus that is what the computer programming is meant to do. This is a computerized site. Nothing to do with the SC at all. They do it for free, take time away from family, work and outings, and they still have LIMITED perimeters they can do, NOT their fault, at all
THIS HAS BECOME YOUR SITE, MAKE YOUR OWN CHANGES
P.S. Now you can all go back to calling me a bitch as I bitch slapped the truth around a lil~!
BUT basically you are all screwed unless you do it yourselves. You want greatness, you want challenges that make you think nad think hard and push your arse to the limits. No one else is gonna do it, but you and a computer. SO do it
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01/15/2014 07:00:04 PM · #52 |
 JulietNN, very enlightening speech! |
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01/15/2014 07:08:09 PM · #53 |
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Message edited by author 2014-01-15 19:08:59. |
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01/15/2014 07:26:37 PM · #54 |
arkk call me a bitch, hate me all you want, we all know this has been said before. I am not knocking anyone, but a dead horse is a dead horse and whipping it more will only make the meat more tender to eat.
Take what you want from what I said, be it negative, inspiring, attractive or jogs your artistic minds.
Take what you want to hear, leave what you do not want to hear.
But myself, I stand up and with the SC, they can not do shit and it frustrates the hell out of them and everyone else, I see them abused and left on the left side with just platitude from people.
But as I have said, A. you can think of me as being bitchy, or B. you can think of me as trying to show you another side, and C. 3 more sides to this sorry story.
And trust me, A wins every time! =P |
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01/15/2014 07:27:52 PM · #55 |
Let's think about the possibility without langman.
Support and promote activities such as in this page (I know, most of you didn't even know existed) which are collecting dust and probably gone long time ago!
SCs can... yes, they can create a front store, without spending any money. All they need is langdon's address for checks to go, which are NOT a lot... front store is mostly fur fun, and advertise this website. That can be advertise with a sticky forum post... if they don't have that kind of power, DPC FB page... which is growing by the second. also can be advertise here and by everyone else.
( alanfreed, I know you (SCs) are not obligated to create a front store, if we have the permission to use site's logo, just for that purpose, I can create it for everyone... so simple, doesn't take time and it's fun... really, fun to drink a cup of coffee with a DPChallenge logo on! People here are thirsty for small changes like that, which can be done.)
SCs involving more activities other than policing the website. SCs are members, but most of us pretty much look up to... at least I think so. There is no reason why not for them to start Side Challenges as well (unless if they swore not to) with giveaways.
Send mass emails to all registered users and members for challanges like the Masters III... if they don't have power for that either, have a handful old generation emailed manually. We LOVE to see those people again, active... I know I do.
I am sure I am missing a thing or two which others will fill!
PS: If langman listens this time, and willing to make some changes... here are my other suggestions for him... which all are easy and doable without spending days and nights!
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01/15/2014 07:35:56 PM · #56 |
I have met you and you are a fabulous man Leo, I wish you luck. I know everyone wants changes, even the SC wants changes, but remember it is all about the creator that created this data to start with. And that is a one man policy.
'YOU know , maybe if you want SC to do all these things, we should pay them.
Cus all they get is blah blah, you are wrong, this person is disqualified, they are jumping into our fights.
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Maybe paying them, would get them more involved. Cus right now it is costing them, time with family, hobbies, photography, loved ones, holidays, vacations adn petty squabbles . And I know I have kicked in the arse by SC a couple of times for being out of order. |
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01/15/2014 07:43:53 PM · #57 |
JulietNN, the thing is... there is nothing too complicated here even it seems that way. I am not pushing SCs do something other than involve more, because members and registered users pretty much feel left alone. I know SCs don't have power to change things physically, but there are stuff they can do in their own spare time... not full-time. Takes literally few minutes a week if so. I also know langdon's situation... peeling couple of onions everyday... that's why no one is asking impossible. Here is an idea: not total control, but some more control given to selected SCs to start the official league once again and forever. SCs are very worry about cheating and stuff, I believe that's one of the reasons it was discontinued, but don't... this is a fun website, I am sure no one will shoot anyone for a digital ribbon.
and yes... I have met you... food was delicious ;)
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01/15/2014 08:02:47 PM · #58 |
Well, pop on down and try my new creation of hamburgers! Oh boy.
I totally know what you are saying and what you are trying to say, and I think you are the bee's knee's for doing it. I realty do think what you are trying is fabulous, and keep on going, someone somewhere is going to take notice at some point~
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01/15/2014 09:05:51 PM · #59 |
| Hi Juliet! Haven't talked to you in what feels like infinity years! Nice to hear from ya and that you're still very much yourself (which is a good thing). :) |
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01/15/2014 09:19:51 PM · #60 |
Juliet,
Count me as one who does not see you as a bad person.
The first question that popped into my head, after starting to read this thread, was what can we realistically try to do? I don't see any point in spending the time asking question after question, if all the answers are "We can't."
I guess my only remaining question is Langdon open to anything? Additional SC members, to lightn their load? And for that I would have to ask Langdon. Though if we all start asking questions it could overload what little time he does have.
Perhaps a go between is an idea...
Bottom line is, Langdon owns it, controls it, and can shut it down at will... Hopefully we will let those who want to help him, help him... |
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01/15/2014 09:41:23 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by ambaker:
Juliet,
Count me as one who does not see you as a bad person.
The first question that popped into my head, after starting to read this thread, was what can we realistically try to do? I don't see any point in spending the time asking question after question, if all the answers are "We can't."
I guess my only remaining question is Langdon open to anything? Additional SC members, to lightn their load? And for that I would have to ask Langdon. Though if we all start asking questions it could overload what little time he does have.
Perhaps a go between is an idea...
Bottom line is, Langdon owns it, controls it, and can shut it down at will... Hopefully we will let those who want to help him, help him... |
I think you hit the nail on the head Alex. |
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01/15/2014 10:40:50 PM · #62 |
I agree, I personally think that insteaed of going after the SC who have very limited power, is to start a question board of pertain straight to the point no flower power whiny questions that you can put to L.
!. Is anything new going to happen this year with changes to the site
2. Are you going to become involved
3. Can you increase the SC spectrum
4. Can you increase the amount of people on the SC
5 Are you going to take any of the suggestions you paying members make. if not, then explain why not
6. Your SC board who is a 'click' and have been together for many many year and knows how each other ticks, need more power
7. Your SC board if they get more power need paying, they get nothing but aggravation and no consolation prize right now
But honestly, I support Leo in all the things he is doing and I hope he gets everything he wants,
But let me add this poinnt, i joined in 97, I am now a registered user. not a big deal to some of you, but it is just a thought
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01/15/2014 10:57:59 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I agree, I personally think that insteaed of going after the SC who have very limited power, is to start a question board of pertain straight to the point no flower power whiny questions that you can put to L.
!. Is anything new going to happen this year with changes to the site
2. Are you going to become involved
3. Can you increase the SC spectrum
4. Can you increase the amount of people on the SC
5 Are you going to take any of the suggestions you paying members make. if not, then explain why not
6. Your SC board who is a 'click' and have been together for many many year and knows how each other ticks, need more power
7. Your SC board if they get more power need paying, they get nothing but aggravation and no consolation prize right now
But honestly, I support Leo in all the things he is doing and I hope he gets everything he wants,
But let me add this poinnt, i joined in 97, I am now a registered user. not a big deal to some of you, but it is just a thought |
I'm right there with ya Jules. I've been here since 2003 (I think you meant '07 but I'll let it slide this time) and am currently just a registered user as well. I think this is more of a two-pronged effort:
1. Somehow convincing Langdon to pass on more power and abilities or be involved more.
2. Grassroots movement for more user involvement, people that are just sort of lost in the woodworks but have much to contribute.
Though, as much as I hate to admit it, much of #2 depends on #1. I understand Langdon's position, when I started this site I was still in high school. I am now 28 with a wife and 3 boys, a career, house, dog, minivan, the works. A lot of my drop off can be attributed to that really, so really, I understand. I do feel like Langdon could at least be open and let us know what he can realistically do to pass the torch, share the burden, kill it, sell it, something, options, anything, just throw us a bone. By the by, thanks SC for your years of dedicated service, it's much appreciated. :) |
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01/16/2014 12:45:27 AM · #64 |
| Juliet, as far as I can see nobody's "going after" SC. We're well aware their power is severely limited. Nevertheless, it is greater than ours. The purpose of the meeting is more to establish dialogue with active SC as a group, find out where they stand, and what we can all do, collectively, to improve the situation for the benefit of all. |
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01/16/2014 01:04:51 AM · #65 |
As much as I applaud Leo for what he is doing, and trying to do. I agree with Juliett(and yes that hasn't happened many times over our time here) that without the obvious input from Langdon, which as we all know isn't likely to happen. And honestly understandably so given what is happening in his life now compared to when the site was built. The sad reality is the site is on a decline, and without that "perk up" from the top it's going to continue. Like many others have pointed out, the blue shirt crowd is dwindling. I joined that gray shirt crowd this month as well. At some point it becomes something that not only is something he doesn't have time for, but something that doesn't pay it's own bills. He doesn't seem to be interested in selling, and will just let it die off whenever it has run it's course. It's sad to think it will come to that, however at some point when something is on life support you have to look at yourself and decide when it's OK to pull the plug.
Good luck to all of you trying to save it. There is much honor to be shared on the battlefield, tis no more honorable death to experience, than to die fighting for what you love.
Matt |
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01/16/2014 01:45:11 AM · #66 |
Originally posted by MattO:
As much as I applaud Leo for what he is doing, and trying to do. I agree with Juliett(and yes that hasn't happened many times over our time here) that without the obvious input from Langdon, which as we all know isn't likely to happen. And honestly understandably so given what is happening in his life now compared to when the site was built. The sad reality is the site is on a decline, and without that "perk up" from the top it's going to continue. Like many others have pointed out, the blue shirt crowd is dwindling. I joined that gray shirt crowd this month as well. At some point it becomes something that not only is something he doesn't have time for, but something that doesn't pay it's own bills. He doesn't seem to be interested in selling, and will just let it die off whenever it has run it's course. It's sad to think it will come to that, however at some point when something is on life support you have to look at yourself and decide when it's OK to pull the plug.
Good luck to all of you trying to save it. There is much honor to be shared on the battlefield, tis no more honorable death to experience, than to die fighting for what you love.
Matt |
I intend to find my honor in victory - the question is how many times we'll have to move the goal posts... |
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01/16/2014 08:32:37 AM · #67 |
| Three more days... Reminder, conversation will be posted in a forum for everyone to read and comment on. I am sure discussion will continue for a while longer! |
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01/16/2014 10:05:42 AM · #68 |
Three more sleeps. Actually... only two more sleeps!
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01/16/2014 10:42:58 AM · #69 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Three more days... Reminder, conversation will be posted in a forum for everyone to read and comment on. I am sure discussion will continue for a while longer! |
I'm glad it will be posted so it can be read. I have a 320 athlete shoot on Saturday and will be a bit busy. But would love to read through it when I get some time.
Matt |
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01/16/2014 11:58:46 AM · #70 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Juliet, as far as I can see nobody's "going after" SC. We're well aware their power is severely limited. Nevertheless, it is greater than ours. The purpose of the meeting is more to establish dialogue with active SC as a group, find out where they stand, and what we can all do, collectively, to improve the situation for the benefit of all. |
I think you are taking what I am saying negatively, which it totally is not. I am not saying anyone is going to bash SC, but they are your middle men. I was stating, give them cohesive questions that is within their power and also not in their power. They have just a hard of a time getting hold of Langdon as any of us. I am just laying down what a sensible business person would think, all angles, looking at it from 4 sides, lagdon, sc, members and from my point of view as an ''haha old timer''
P.S. I think I peed my pants a little that we agree on something! =P
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01/17/2014 08:34:29 AM · #71 |
Before tomorrow's meeting. Test your browsers and see if they're working ok. You don't have to chat with anyone, log in, send a few test message and leave. It is not fun to find out your browser is not compatible at the time this meeting starts...
DPChat.net page changed just for this meeting. It will be returned to its normal face on Sunday! |
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01/17/2014 11:44:08 AM · #72 |
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01/17/2014 12:59:21 PM · #73 |
I have two changes that I'd like to throw out there for consideration - both in the hopes of bettering overall participation in the spirit of DPC and well run challenges....
1. I would like to see voting required at 50% or more for anyone entering a challenge.
2. I would like to see voting allowed only after having entered one challenge or more. |
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01/17/2014 01:37:53 PM · #74 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Before tomorrow's meeting. Test your browsers and see if they're working ok. You don't have to chat with anyone, log in, send a few test message and leave. It is not fun to find out your browser is not compatible at the time this meeting starts...
DPChat.net page changed just for this meeting. It will be returned to its normal face on Sunday! |
Good that I will not be in the office to attend this because at work this website is blocked! |
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01/17/2014 02:42:09 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by PennyStreet:
I have two changes that I'd like to throw out there for consideration - both in the hopes of bettering overall participation in the spirit of DPC and well run challenges....
1. I would like to see voting required at 50% or more for anyone entering a challenge.
2. I would like to see voting allowed only after having entered one challenge or more. |
Carnack says.......
SC can't do either of those things. |
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