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Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

07/21/2013 04:54:22 PM · #26

Originally posted by mefnj:

But I could be wrong...

As could I.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

07/21/2013 04:57:28 PM · #27

Posterizing BETTER be legal or I was way, way out of line here :-)

MaryO

Nikon Z8

Nikon NIKKOR Z 28-400mm f/4-8

07/21/2013 05:07:12 PM · #28

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Posterizing BETTER be legal or I was way, way out of line here :-)

Ooh, an idea for the Bear challenge!

07/21/2013 05:23:10 PM · #29

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Posterizing BETTER be legal or I was way, way out of line here :-)

I think you were, sir. :)

I'm guessing this didn't get submitted for validation.

pixelpig

Sony Alpha a55

Sony DT 1.8/50mm SAM

07/21/2013 05:41:19 PM · #30

It seems like there are many more chances to be officially DQd than there are to have fun with a texture layer. It seems easy enough but it does add new features. It could even push the comp over the boundary so that it would loose its important photographic nature. I think none of these would be allowed--

The one in the middle has a texture layer created from scratch in photoshop.

Message edited by author 2013-07-21 17:53:39.

07/21/2013 05:48:14 PM · #31

There's an interesting question.

What has priority in determining legality - the ruleset for Advanced editing, or the special ruleset that allows for textures?

I would argue that posterization falls afoul of the rule because of my reasons listed above, and the fact that it's not a texture layer (the exception for this challenge of course.)

While I think the examples posted by pixelpig should pass muster here, since there is a specific rule allowing for use of textures (which are almost guaranteed to add new features)..

SC - Really guys, we'd like you to weigh in on this, otherwise we're simply left to ponder, worry, and either play it safe, or take a risk based on beliefs. (not something I'm a huge fan of)

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

07/21/2013 06:04:45 PM · #32

Originally posted by Cory:

Just a clarification.... Posterize is not a layer in any sense, but an adjustment that takes the existing color pallette (or color depth) and decreases the colors used throughout the photo. See here

Message edited by author 2013-07-21 18:05:32.

Denielle

Canon EOS-7D Mark II

07/21/2013 06:16:19 PM · #33

So after reading and rereading the thread and the rules and such, I decided I would take another shot at my editing on this photo.

I wasn't sure if one of the options I used was legal, and since it's so close to the deadline, I just decided to re-edit my photo.

I'm even MORE PLEASED with the result this time.

After the challenge is over, I will post my first entry so that you can tell me which was better, and if it would have been legal (for future reference).

Can't wait for the challenge to start. I may stay up till midnight just to see the first vote. :)

Good luck guys (and gals, of course). :)

hajeka

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS USM

07/21/2013 06:19:16 PM · #34

I've no clue if my entry is legal or not and it's too late to change anything, so I'm just hoping for the best

Sigma 85mm f/1.4 for Canon

07/21/2013 07:25:27 PM · #35

Originally posted by hajeka:

I've no clue if my entry is legal or not and it's too late to change anything, so I'm just hoping for the best

Kinda in the same boat... But hey, it's been 25+ challenges since my last miserable DQ for this mess in the Meme challenge

I'm willing to chafe it for an image I really like as opposed to playing it super safe for a so-so image

-m

RKT

Canon EOS-60D

07/21/2013 07:33:30 PM · #36

Originally posted by pixelpig:

I would think these would all be fine. You're using an overlay/texture as an overlay/texture...not putting wings on pigs and such.

"You may use a single image that does not meet the source or date requirements as an overlaid texture. This single image must function specifically as textures and not to circumvent other rules within the advanced editing rule set."

Perhaps they should have left the last little bit that I put in bold out of the description? Perhaps this is the bit causing the confusion?

When I saw this challenge, I thought of this side challenge...from the retro SC a while ago...

Message edited by author 2013-07-21 19:38:31.

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

07/21/2013 07:44:23 PM · #37

Originally posted by mefnj:

Originally posted by hajeka:
I've no clue if my entry is legal or not and it's too late to change anything, so I'm just hoping for the best

Kinda in the same boat... But hey, it's been 25+ challenges since my last miserable DQ for this mess in the Meme challenge

I'm willing to chafe it for an image I really like as opposed to playing it super safe for a so-so image

-m

+1 - Same here - I feel somewhat uncomfortable with my entry's legality, but I'm in. I think I've interpreted the rules correctly, but I honestly have no idea if what I've done is legal or not.

Denielle

Canon EOS-7D Mark II

07/21/2013 07:47:10 PM · #38

Seems as if a lot of people aren't sure of legality.
I'm pretty sure (99.999%) that my new entry is legal. I like both edits, but I feel more comfortable with my second (both legally and looks wise).

Now I'm really looking forward to seeing the entries!!!

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

07/21/2013 08:02:07 PM · #39

ok, as i still had a little time, i followed GeneralE's suggestion and got the same look as posterize using Levels and Curves... i can't imagine how this could be ruled illegal under Advanced Editing... but life is full of surprises!

-m

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

07/21/2013 08:06:25 PM · #40

Originally posted by mefnj:

What's crazier still is that, if you make the color shifts would using any selections/masks, it would almost certainly be legal under the Basic rules, which allow you to shift the color of pixels to any degree as long as the adjustment is applied to the entire image uniformly.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

07/21/2013 08:15:46 PM · #41

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by mefnj:
ok, as i still had a little time, i followed GeneralE's suggestion and got the same look as posterize using Levels and Curves... i can't imagine how this could be ruled illegal under Advanced Editing... but life is full of surprises!

-m

What's crazier still is that, if you make the color shifts would using any selections/masks, it would almost certainly be legal under the Basic rules, which allow you to shift the color of pixels to any degree as long as the adjustment is applied to the entire image uniformly.

So very true.

If this was basic, you could shift those colors and posterize to your heart's content. In advanced, there are rules that prevent you from doing so IMO.

Now, the texture thing with new image areas is a whole other beast, and I think SC might have a small headache on their hands in determining just where that line lays.

I do suspect that it's likely the SC will probably be a bit more lenient on this challenge than they are normally, due to the additional rule and the lack of clarity on exactly what is legal.

Message edited by author 2013-07-21 20:16:08.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

07/21/2013 08:18:18 PM · #42

Originally posted by Cory:

I do suspect that it's likely the SC will probably be a bit more lenient on this challenge than they are normally, due to the additional rule and the lack of clarity on exactly what is legal.

And I suspect you'll not be the only one walking around for the next few days with your fingers crossed ... ;-)

07/21/2013 08:53:03 PM · #43

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by mefnj:
ok, as i still had a little time, i followed GeneralE's suggestion and got the same look as posterize using Levels and Curves... i can't imagine how this could be ruled illegal under Advanced Editing... but life is full of surprises!

-m

What's crazier still is that, if you make the color shifts would using any selections/masks, it would almost certainly be legal under the Basic rules, which allow you to shift the color of pixels to any degree as long as the adjustment is applied to the entire image uniformly.

So very true.

If this was basic, you could shift those colors and posterize to your heart's content. In advanced, there are rules that prevent you from doing so IMO.

are you just being provocative? this would make no sense at all, that there would be something you COULD do in Basic but NOT in Advanced.... that ruins the whole idea that these are greater and greater levels of pp freedom.

-m