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 09/01/2004 12:54:49 AM · #1
This was my first attempt at working with a model and I wanted to get some feedback (please!). This may be a few too many images for a forum post, but I it took me hours to thin it down this much...



There are a few more images from this session here.

Thanks in advance for any comments!

Message edited by author 2004-09-21 15:05:29.
 09/01/2004 12:58:07 AM · #2
when I click on the link, I get "You must enter a password to access this gallery". Maybe you'd get more comments if it were accessible.
 09/01/2004 01:05:04 AM · #3
Originally posted by f-32:
when I click on the link, I get "You must enter a password to access this gallery". Maybe you'd get more comments if it were accessible.

Thanks!! I didn't even realize I had done that. Signed out and tested this time to make sure.
 09/01/2004 01:05:07 AM · #4
Those are sensational, very hard to believe that is your first attempt with a model! (not doubting you, just very impressed).

They are excellent shots, especially the ones in the water. Beautiful model, and she has real confidence, which is excellent.

Congrats, a very successful first attempt :)



Message edited by author 2004-09-01 01:05:31.
 09/01/2004 01:09:15 AM · #5
In a word: STUNNING!
 09/01/2004 01:13:49 AM · #6
Originally posted by Natator:
Those are sensational, very hard to believe that is your first attempt with a model! (not doubting you, just very impressed).

They are excellent shots, especially the ones in the water. Beautiful model, and she has real confidence, which is excellent.

Congrats, a very successful first attempt :)


The model's confidense was key to making this work. I was so nervous my hands were shaking and I had to start with a tripod. She came up with the poses while I tried to remember how my camera worked. By the time we hit the stream I was past the shakey hands, but I still managed to lose 2 compact flash cards while changing lenses.
 09/01/2004 01:33:36 AM · #7
What a great break having such a confident model :)

That will now hopefully make you a lot more confident next time, as the best way to relax a nervous model is for the photographer to be .... confident.

Congrats yet again, I absolutely love those shots!
 09/01/2004 01:46:43 AM · #8
holy crap! these are by far the best model shots I have seen posted here on DPC, perhaps not technically but in terms of interest and location. Simply brilliant work. I imagine that after you edit them more they will be the most awesome photographs I have ever seen. Wow wow wow wow. Make sure to thank that model by making them look fantastic!
 09/01/2004 01:54:28 AM · #9
Originally posted by JPR:
holy crap! these are by far the best model shots I have seen posted here on DPC, perhaps not technically but in terms of interest and location. Simply brilliant work. I imagine that after you edit them more they will be the most awesome photographs I have ever seen. Wow wow wow wow. Make sure to thank that model by making them look fantastic!

Thanks! I couldn't decide where to start with the serious editing, so I did some quick levels adjustments and posted them here to see what people thought.
09/01/2004 02:16:19 AM · #10
I am impressed!
 09/01/2004 02:22:24 AM · #11
Lovely photos. I especially like this one:



Gorgeous.
 09/01/2004 04:02:26 AM · #12
David,

This is a great set. I'm guessing that this subject had modeled before. Did you have stylist or makeup artist on location? There is a big difference from the first shot to the ones down by the water.

You got some great shots. I commented on the first, fourth and sixth. I especially liked




and



Definitely shoot some more and post 'em out here.

Kev
 09/01/2004 08:48:28 AM · #13
Originally posted by KevinRiggs:
David,

This is a great set. I'm guessing that this subject had modeled before. Did you have stylist or makeup artist on location? There is a big difference from the first shot to the ones down by the water.

Kev


Thanks for the great feedback!
The model did her own makeup before she arrived and we didn't break to do any touch-ups. She has modeled before, which was a huge benefit for me. I think the biggest difference between the first shot and the ones down by the water was the quality of the light. It was an overcast morning, but the clouds thinned a bit and created a fantasic glow when we were down by the water. You can see the affect in 2707 through 2803. It didn't last long, but what a rush to be shooting and get hit with light like that.
 09/01/2004 09:01:30 AM · #14
I think this is my favorite of the thumbs you posted.
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The only problem I notice, particularly on this one is the lack of some fill lighting and catchlights in the eyes. Other than that, a fantastic group of photos, especially for a first shoot.
 09/01/2004 09:35:47 AM · #15
Great work David! I agree with Chris that some of the shots would have been even better with the addition of some fill light, but other than that I think you did a fantastic job.

Whose idea was it to have her get into the water? Either way, she's a real trooper for doing it.

09/01/2004 10:14:14 AM · #16
Originally posted by cbeller:
I think this is my favorite of the thumbs you posted.
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The only problem I notice, particularly on this one is the lack of some fill lighting and catchlights in the eyes. Other than that, a fantastic group of photos, especially for a first shoot.


I tried some fill flash with the same pose, but I thought it was a little harsh. The model preferred the one with fill, so I'm curious what you think. A reflector would have been best, maybe I'll bring an assistant next time.

09/01/2004 10:22:11 AM · #17
Originally posted by micknewton:
Great work David! I agree with Chris that some of the shots would have been even better with the addition of some fill light, but other than that I think you did a fantastic job.

Whose idea was it to have her get into the water? Either way, she's a real trooper for doing it.


I suggested that the location had a stream and that some shots of her wading in a sun dress might be interesting. She brought the dress and after the wading said she wanted some of her in the water. She was a trooper and even sat in the water while I ran back to the car to upload a memory card (lost the other two in the stream while changing lenses). The sun came out just as I was returning which created this shot.

Thanks for taking the time to look and comment.
 09/01/2004 11:03:00 AM · #18
Originally posted by Nusbaum:
Originally posted by cbeller:
I think this is my favorite of the thumbs you posted.
.

The only problem I notice, particularly on this one is the lack of some fill lighting and catchlights in the eyes. Other than that, a fantastic group of photos, especially for a first shoot.


I tried some fill flash with the same pose, but I thought it was a little harsh. The model preferred the one with fill, so I'm curious what you think. A reflector would have been best, maybe I'll bring an assistant next time.

I really like the shot with the fill flash because it brings out her eyes. In the other one her eyes are in shadow and it gives the image a dark, moody feel. They are both very good photos though.

09/01/2004 10:28:37 PM · #19
I prefer the one with the fill flash, but agree it was a tad harsh. I made this edit of it. Hope you don't mind.

I'll remove it from my portfolio, once you've taken a look.

Originally posted by Nusbaum:
Originally posted by cbeller:
I think this is my favorite of the thumbs you posted.
.

The only problem I notice, particularly on this one is the lack of some fill lighting and catchlights in the eyes. Other than that, a fantastic group of photos, especially for a first shoot.


I tried some fill flash with the same pose, but I thought it was a little harsh. The model preferred the one with fill, so I'm curious what you think. A reflector would have been best, maybe I'll bring an assistant next time.

09/01/2004 10:34:11 PM · #20
every single one... FANTASTIC!
 09/01/2004 10:48:45 PM · #21
Wow!! you nailed that. Now you are going to have to tell me how you did it.

Originally posted by cbeller:
I prefer the one with the fill flash, but agree it was a tad harsh. I made this edit of it. Hope you don't mind.

I'll remove it from my portfolio, once you've taken a look.


Message edited by author 2004-09-01 22:49:56.
 09/01/2004 11:40:20 PM · #22
Originally posted by Nusbaum:
Wow!! you nailed that. Now you are going to have to tell me how you did it.

Originally posted by cbeller:
I prefer the one with the fill flash, but agree it was a tad harsh. I made this edit of it. Hope you don't mind.

I'll remove it from my portfolio, once you've taken a look.


Thats a great shot! You might consider using a little neat image to smooth her complexion just a tad. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but I think it will look better.
 09/01/2004 11:56:37 PM · #23
Originally posted by Nusbaum:
Wow!! you nailed that. Now you are going to have to tell me how you did it.

Originally posted by cbeller:
I prefer the one with the fill flash, but agree it was a tad harsh. I made this edit of it. Hope you don't mind.

I'll remove it from my portfolio, once you've taken a look.


Didn't do a lot, really.
Adjustment layer to adjust levels, bumped up the darks.
Adjustment layer to adjust curves a tad on both ends.
Flattened image
Duplicate layer and dodged (10% opacity) the dark spots under the eyes.
Ran the duplicate layer through NeatImage (about 20%-25%, I believe).
Adjusted duplicate layer to about 80% opacity.
Flattened image.

If I was really working this photo up, I would have spent time with the healing brush to clean up the acne and maybe applied a bit more NI on the duplicate layer.

I always blend the NIed duplicate layer at about 70%-80% opacity so it brings some of the skin texture back, but leaves the skin smooth and not plactic looking.

Hope that helps.
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