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05/10/2013 01:29:34 AM · #1 |
Confused? See the suggestin thread here |
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05/10/2013 01:33:42 AM · #2 |
This whole part is missing:
Take a single appropriate photograph and use your choice of post-processing or special effects/filters to make it look like a painting. Special Rule: Multiple captures are acceptable for HDR only, not to build a scene from different photos (at least not this time).
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05/10/2013 07:09:02 AM · #3 |
Very very disappointing omission. Won't be the intended challenge now. |
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05/10/2013 09:27:07 AM · #4 |
Yay! Expert editing! Fun to create an entry & a treat to vote. |
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05/10/2013 09:52:28 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by skewsme: Very very disappointing omission. Won't be the intended challenge now. |
While I understand the omission changes the intent of the initial suggestion, it also opens it to all the painting styles, including surrealism or cubism for example (both of which really call for composites and/or extreme deformations). Such paintings are still paintings of course, and some persons may like those styles (I know I do): it is a good occasion to give it a try imho. Variety is not a bad thing ;-) |
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05/10/2013 10:29:14 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Tiberius: This whole part is missing:
Take a single appropriate photograph and use your choice of post-processing or special effects/filters to make it look like a painting. Special Rule: Multiple captures are acceptable for HDR only, not to build a scene from different photos (at least not this time). |
Not that I don't think this is a good idea, and I am a little disappointed that the challenge ended up being something it wasn't intended to be. But if we were going to do this challenge the way it was stated above there would be no need for expert editing. To make a photo look like a painting you only need advanced editing. |
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05/10/2013 10:35:51 AM · #7 |
I'm glad its expert, what's he point of making a photo look like a painting if you aren't going to be add your own spin to it? anyone can add a special effects filter to an image.
this rule set will provide much more variety in the entries.
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05/10/2013 02:27:20 PM · #8 |
Looks like this site is moving more and more to image manipulation (read: expert editing) instead of photography. Alexkc did a great job in "Image Grain" under the "advanced rules".
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05/10/2013 03:30:50 PM · #9 |
i am also a bit miffed by the omission of the special rule, as i was trying to specifically NOT get a bunch of composites (and i did add the caveat "not this time" in my suggestion). this really does put a large part of DPC out of real competition b/c we are not masters like gayban and a few others.
IMO, we did need EXPERT only to allow the use of texture overlays and the use of filters that "add" elements that would surely not be allowed in Advanced, and to allow distorting, etc., if desired.
well, not the first time a suggestion become a challenge that really isn't in the narrow spirit of the OP (e.g., internet meme without adding text digitally!)
;-(
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05/10/2013 05:49:14 PM · #10 |
*shrugs* Ah well that's life...but then most of my Advanced stuff is only 1 capture plus a little cloning or selective d&b, and much of my Expert is just multiple images slapped together.
So as with all my entries, if I enter I will just muck along as usual, and everyone who isn't a site member will ooh and aah over the results. That's the fun part!!! :-) |
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05/10/2013 06:08:55 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by hajeka: Looks like this site is moving more and more to image manipulation (read: expert editing) instead of photography. Alexkc did a great job in "Image Grain" under the "advanced rules". |
There's a nice basic editing black and white street photo challenge to sink your teeth in :) |
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05/11/2013 10:36:39 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by hajeka: Looks like this site is moving more and more to image manipulation (read: expert editing) instead of photography. Alexkc did a great job in "Image Grain" under the "advanced rules". |
Well, true to an extent though you should check out Worth1K if you REALLY want to see wicked awesome PhotoChop. Not that gyaban's any slouch, but even he might find it quite a bit tougher to ribbon there.
But they're nice enough to have a photography section in which you can compete, too. And once you ribbon x amount of times (I think 3?) per category, you can no longer compete in anything but the Expert ones. |
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05/11/2013 10:45:21 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by mefnj: i am also a bit miffed by the omission of the special rule, as i was trying to specifically NOT get a bunch of composites (and i did add the caveat "not this time" in my suggestion). this really does put a large part of DPC out of real competition b/c we are not masters like gayban and a few others.
IMO, we did need EXPERT only to allow the use of texture overlays and the use of filters that "add" elements that would surely not be allowed in Advanced, and to allow distorting, etc., if desired.
well, not the first time a suggestion become a challenge that really isn't in the narrow spirit of the OP (e.g., internet meme without adding text digitally!)
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Your suggestion was a good one. Keep up the good work. It will be okay. Voters have the option of recognizing the "photographic in nature" clause.
I've submitted a good entry, but it didn't require expert editing ruleset. (It won't score well, but this is something to which I've become accustomed.)
At least this challenge won't be a part of the TPL Finals! |
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05/11/2013 05:03:36 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by hajeka: Looks like this site is moving more and more to image manipulation (read: expert editing) instead of photography. Alexkc did a great job in "Image Grain" under the "advanced rules". |
Thanks man, really appreciated! When I saw this challenge title I immediately thought of my 'grain' photo - I was a couple of weeks early :)
As for the expert editing matter, I guess there are less expert editing challenges than last year. What I don't understand is why we can't have challenge suggestions exactly the way they are suggested. mefnj had a wonderful idea and I still think this will be an amazing challenge :) |
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05/11/2013 05:20:06 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Well, true to an extent though you should check out Worth1K if you REALLY want to see wicked awesome PhotoChop. Not that gyaban's any slouch, but even he might find it quite a bit tougher to ribbon there.
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Worth1k is very different from DPC: people there have the right to work on stock photos (copyright-free or paid ones), also without any limitation about its date. When you have virtually access to any photo of the world, made by a talented photographer, it becomes much easier to create an overall good image, compared to when you have to do everything by yourself within a week. I find the latter much more interesting that the former. |
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05/11/2013 06:41:33 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by gyaban: Originally posted by snaffles:
Well, true to an extent though you should check out Worth1K if you REALLY want to see wicked awesome PhotoChop. Not that gyaban's any slouch, but even he might find it quite a bit tougher to ribbon there.
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Worth1k is very different from DPC: people there have the right to work on stock photos (copyright-free or paid ones), also without any limitation about its date. When you have virtually access to any photo of the world, made by a talented photographer, it becomes much easier to create an overall good image, compared to when you have to do everything by yourself within a week. I find the latter much more interesting that the former. |
Funny, back in the day this same argument was being used against expert editing and before that advance editing. Much easier to get a good overall image (read high score) when you can just photoshop something in, topaz it, or whatever. The lines we draw seem to be based more on self interests than anything else. |
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05/11/2013 06:44:50 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Funny, back in the day this same argument was being used against expert editing and before that advance editing. Much easier to get a good overall image (read high score) when you can just photoshop something in, topaz it, or whatever. The lines we draw seem to be based more on self interests than anything else. |
Yes, of course. As an hobbyist, I do things as I like, my main goal is to enjoy my time. I suppose this is the case for most people. |
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05/12/2013 07:02:47 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Funny, back in the day this same argument was being used against expert editing and before that advance editing. Much easier to get a good overall image (read high score) when you can just photoshop something in, topaz it, or whatever. The lines we draw seem to be based more on self interests than anything else. |
Originally posted by gyaban: Yes, of course. As an hobbyist, I do things as I like, my main goal is to enjoy my time. I suppose this is the case for most people. |
+1,+1
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05/12/2013 07:04:48 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by gyaban: Originally posted by snaffles:
Well, true to an extent though you should check out Worth1K if you REALLY want to see wicked awesome PhotoChop. Not that gyaban's any slouch, but even he might find it quite a bit tougher to ribbon there.
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Worth1k is very different from DPC: people there have the right to work on stock photos (copyright-free or paid ones), also without any limitation about its date. When you have virtually access to any photo of the world, made by a talented photographer, it becomes much easier to create an overall good image, compared to when you have to do everything by yourself within a week. I find the latter much more interesting that the former. |
Very true, I had forgotten that they aren't placed under the same strictures we are here at DPC. Would be cool to see what they could turn out if they shot under DPC rules then do their Expert magic! |
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05/16/2013 03:56:24 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by hahn23: Originally posted by mefnj: i am also a bit miffed by the omission of the special rule, as i was trying to specifically NOT get a bunch of composites (and i did add the caveat "not this time" in my suggestion). this really does put a large part of DPC out of real competition b/c we are not masters like gayban and a few others.
IMO, we did need EXPERT only to allow the use of texture overlays and the use of filters that "add" elements that would surely not be allowed in Advanced, and to allow distorting, etc., if desired.
well, not the first time a suggestion become a challenge that really isn't in the narrow spirit of the OP (e.g., internet meme without adding text digitally!)
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Your suggestion was a good one. Keep up the good work. It will be okay. Voters have the option of recognizing the "photographic in nature" clause.
I've submitted a good entry, but it didn't require expert editing ruleset. (It won't score well, but this is something to which I've become accustomed.)
At least this challenge won't be a part of the TPL Finals! |
Well, in the spirit of the original suggestion, I've entered in a shot that would pass muster under Advanced rules. I'm even hopeful that it will do well. |
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