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09/01/2004 01:59:35 AM · #51 |
| This makes me laugh, The democrats are totally unhinged. Look at the company that defends them. If I was in a party and my party demostrated with the hard left, the commies, the socialist and all these off the walls radicals...I would abandon the party. When a party is so far to the left the heartland responds with a landslide. I mean, like who wants to be associated with so much vermin. Is this the way to win? |
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09/01/2004 02:04:31 AM · #52 |
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
This makes me laugh, The democrats are totally unhinged. Look at the company that defends them. If I was in a party and my party demostrated with the hard left, the commies, the socialist and all these off the walls radicals...I would abandon the party. When a party is so far to the left the heartland responds with a landslide. I mean, like who wants to be associated with so much vermin. Is this the way to win? |
*** LOL...you're a riot, Graphic...who could be more radical (or maybe I should say reactionary) than the neocons that want perpetual war and killing? They risk the future, not only of this nation, but of this planet. |
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09/01/2004 02:11:01 AM · #53 |
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
Originally posted by JEM:
Oly - where are you?? What we do, and have done, is who we are.
Why do you wander off into the bushes and get distracted by your soliliquy about poor men and their jobs, etc... |
***Because I still don't understand why you needed to know what I've done to help my country...What's this got to do with taking part in democracy? If I told you that I worked as a bus boy, would that not have qualified me to criticize my government? |
That is interesting, since in another thread, you kept asking everyone if they had fought in a war, implying that they couldn't possibly have a valid opinion unless they had similar experiences.
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09/01/2004 02:30:22 AM · #54 |
Originally posted by SoCal69:
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
Originally posted by JEM:
Oly - where are you?? What we do, and have done, is who we are.
Why do you wander off into the bushes and get distracted by your soliliquy about poor men and their jobs, etc... |
***Because I still don't understand why you needed to know what I've done to help my country...What's this got to do with taking part in democracy? If I told you that I worked as a bus boy, would that not have qualified me to criticize my government? |
That is interesting, since in another thread, you kept asking everyone if they had fought in a war, implying that they couldn't possibly have a valid opinion unless they had similar experiences. |
***That is true but to make the point that you can't know how a man's/woman's feelings change when having spent time in war and seen death and destruction...this in regard to Mr. Hinzman who wanted to leave the military. You rigidly denied his actions because it went against authority. But what has what I've done to help my country got anything to do with participating in democracy?
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09/01/2004 08:32:38 AM · #55 |
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
I am gonna add just a little more to this...something I forgot to metion earlier and it annoys the heck out of me is the Republicans sudden use of telemarketing. |
Trust me, the Republicans are NOT the only ones who use pre-recorded automated calling systems. But it is a typical uneducated leftist ploy to think such things in their mind.
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
Here I am I have my phone number listed with the Pennsylvania Do Not Call List, the Verizon do not call list, two natiional consumer do not call lists and I am also on a National Telemarketing Removal List. But that didn't stop the voice activated recording of George W. Bush from coming into my home yestereday afternoon. |
Being on those Do Not Call lists does not afford you any protection from political telephone calls. From the DoNotCall.gov FAQ:
Q: If I register my number on the National Do Not Call Registry, will it stop all telemarketing calls?
A: No. Placing your number on the National Do Not Call Registry will stop most, but not all, telemarketing calls. You may still receive calls from political organizations, charities, telephone surveyors or companies with which you have an existing business relationship.
(emphasis mine)
Message edited by author 2004-09-01 08:32:46.
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09/01/2004 08:58:40 AM · #56 |
Originally posted by EddyG:
Trust me, the Republicans are NOT the only ones who use pre-recorded automated calling systems. But it is a typical uneducated leftist ploy to think such things in their mind. |
Eddy,
Is the name-calling really necessary?
-Terry
Message edited by author 2004-09-01 08:59:15.
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09/01/2004 09:18:51 AM · #57 |
Originally posted by EddyG:
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
I am gonna add just a little more to this...something I forgot to metion earlier and it annoys the heck out of me is the Republicans sudden use of telemarketing. |
Trust me, the Republicans are NOT the only ones who use pre-recorded automated calling systems. But it is a typical uneducated leftist ploy to think such things in their mind.
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That may be the case but I sure haven't had John Kerry leaving a message on my answering machine.
Message edited by author 2004-09-01 09:20:32.
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09/01/2004 09:56:10 AM · #58 |
| Re: Hinzman - we must presume he can read and so understood the contract he volunteered to honor. The purpose of a military, in all countries, is to kill the enemy, and it could hardly have escaped his attention that the enemy might shoot back. This man was not drafted, nor forced into the military. |
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09/01/2004 10:31:26 AM · #59 |
Originally posted by JEM:
Re: Hinzman - we must presume he can read and so understood the contract he volunteered to honor. The purpose of a military, in all countries, is to kill the enemy, and it could hardly have escaped his attention that the enemy might shoot back. This man was not drafted, nor forced into the military. |
***Then let him compensate the military for their investment in him and let him go and seek his peace. He made a mistake early in his life and has turned to religion and peace. He's also served a portion of his time and has served seven months in Afghanistan. The president made a mistake regarding his invasion of Iraq and has been responsible for over 1000 Americans deaths and countless Iraqis. Mr. Hinzman is responsible for nothing of the sort, yet you can not be as forgiving of Hinzman's mistake?
Former leuitenent governer of Texax, Ben Barnes, is now saying that he helped Bush, and other men of rich families in Texas get into the Texas National Guard to avoid serving in Viet Nam.
Message edited by author 2004-09-01 10:33:56. |
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09/01/2004 11:10:59 AM · #60 |
I'm still wondering who had their overtime taken away by GW.
Maybe I should ask who is now eligible for overtime because of GW?
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09/01/2004 11:59:22 AM · #61 |
Yep...
Message edited by author 2004-09-01 12:00:10. |
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09/01/2004 12:29:04 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by JEM:
If you have nothing positive, or constructive to contribute, SHUT YOUR MOUTH!! The internet is not a platform for whining, negative, do-nothing losers. |
I beg to disagree... It seems to me that is exactly what the internet is...
But that's just me :) |
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09/01/2004 02:39:24 PM · #63 |
| Are there any anti-purple-heart-bandaid folks out there who are upset about the really bad form being exhibited by the anti-Bush demonstrators who are wearing pig-snout masks and mocking the New York City Police? |
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09/01/2004 02:41:14 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by EddyG:
Trust me, the Republicans are NOT the only ones who use pre-recorded automated calling systems. But it is a typical uneducated leftist ploy to think such things in their mind.
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I don't expect to see a member of site council insulting site members, in rant or out of it.
Clara
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09/01/2004 02:42:30 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by RonB:
Are there any anti-purple-heart-bandaid folks out there who are upset about the really bad form being exhibited by the anti-Bush demonstrators who are wearing pig-snout masks and mocking the New York City Police? |
Yes. I find such activity abhorrent from both sides. The police are doing a job they were told to do, to the best of their ability.
The fundamental difference here in my opinion, is one os a group of independent demonstrators, the other is representatives of the party.
-Terry
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09/01/2004 02:58:51 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by EddieG:
Trust me, the Republicans are NOT the only ones who use pre-recorded automated calling systems. But it is a typical uneducated leftist ploy to think such things in their mind. |
Please refrain from insulting me or others who don̢۪t share your views. It̢۪s rude, disrespectful and compounds what many say about the right and its 'attack the man instead of the issues' techniques.
Message edited by author 2004-09-01 15:57:12. |
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09/01/2004 03:02:34 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Also, please refrain from insulting me or others who don̢۪t share your views. It̢۪s rude, disrespectful and compounds what many say about the right and its 'attack the man instead of the issues' techniques. |
Me?
-Terry
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09/01/2004 03:12:58 PM · #68 |
No Club, you have been a good mediator :)
I was refering to EddieG.
Shit, I quoted the wrong person. Damn I must need sleep.. edited.
Message edited by author 2004-09-01 15:18:43. |
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09/01/2004 03:18:18 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by blemt:
I don't expect to see a member of site council insulting site members, in rant or out of it. |
I was not insulting a site member, and I'm sorry if it came across that way. I was making a general comment about left-wing propagandists who turn everything into an issue trying to show that their side is somehow "superior", when in actuality, 5 seconds of research shows that the issue has nothing to do with which side you are on.
Last time I checked, "Rant" was an unmoderated forum, so I didn't think I had to "pussy foot" around with disclaimers and sugar-coat everything.
And as far as me being a member of the SC, as has been stated time and time again, unless we specifically say we are speaking in some official manner when posting in the forums, we are just another user on the site, expressing our personal opinions... especially in the Rant forum.
Message edited by author 2004-09-01 15:21:52. |
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09/01/2004 03:29:51 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
The fundamental difference here in my opinion, is one os a group of independent demonstrators, the other is representatives of the party. |
No difference. Stupid people do stupid things. Their stupidity is no reflection on the candidate they support or represent. I don't judge Kerry on the intellegence of his supporters and I don't judge Bush on the stupid actions of his supporters.
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09/01/2004 03:58:30 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
The fundamental difference here in my opinion, is one os a group of independent demonstrators, the other is representatives of the party. |
This is what I mean to quote from you Terry, which I fully agree with. (me is working a 12 hour day, starting out sllooww..) |
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09/01/2004 04:11:43 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by RonB:
Are there any anti-purple-heart-bandaid folks out there who are upset about the really bad form being exhibited by the anti-Bush demonstrators who are wearing pig-snout masks and mocking the New York City Police? |
Maybe they're mocking all the pork handed out to Cheney ummm err Hallibacon? |
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09/01/2004 04:12:23 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by pitsaman:
Yep... |
beautiful proof of the fact that even New Yorkers are tired of everyone basing everything on what happened on 9/11.
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09/01/2004 07:49:17 PM · #74 |
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
Originally posted by EddyG:
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
I am gonna add just a little more to this...something I forgot to metion earlier and it annoys the heck out of me is the Republicans sudden use of telemarketing. |
Trust me, the Republicans are NOT the only ones who use pre-recorded automated calling systems. But it is a typical uneducated leftist ploy to think such things in their mind.
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That may be the case but I sure haven't had John Kerry leaving a message on my answering machine. |
Bill, Hillary, Boxer, Feinstein and Davis called me daily during the California recall election. I̢۪ve also had calls from Ed Asner urging me to vote for a local guy who has a history of moving from district to district just to run for whatever office is open. |
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09/01/2004 08:30:06 PM · #75 |
//slate.msn.com/id/2105914/
Being There
What does 9/11 tell us about Bush? Nothing.
By William Saletan
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