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04/05/2013 04:01:43 AM · #1
Refraction of light
04/05/2013 08:09:02 AM · #2
Thanks.
04/05/2013 02:48:31 PM · #3
H2 is licking his chops...
04/05/2013 03:06:33 PM · #4
haha, not really, neither have time nor an idea ( yet)
04/05/2013 07:16:29 PM · #5
Inspiration: "72 Ravishing Refractions"
04/05/2013 07:31:40 PM · #6
Originally posted by h2:

haha, not really, neither have time nor an idea ( yet)


Liar!
04/05/2013 08:57:23 PM · #7
he probably cleaning out the glasses now...
04/05/2013 11:21:55 PM · #8
Originally posted by mike_311:

he probably cleaning out the glasses now...


Making room on the shelf
04/05/2013 11:32:11 PM · #9
Originally posted by mike_311:

he probably cleaning out the glasses now...


I think he should use something else. What if someone else wants to use glasses?
04/06/2013 02:07:55 AM · #10
Originally posted by nam:

Originally posted by mike_311:

he probably cleaning out the glasses now...


I think he should use something else. What if someone else wants to use glasses?

feel free... of course I can make refractions without any glass. Heck, I don't even need light!
04/09/2013 12:14:55 PM · #11
Can I create a design on my computer and use the monitor for a backdrop?
04/09/2013 12:27:34 PM · #12
Originally posted by nam:

Can I create a design on my computer and use the monitor for a backdrop?


im thinking no.
04/09/2013 12:28:02 PM · #13
Originally posted by nam:

Can I create a design on my computer and use the monitor for a backdrop?

as long as the design on the monitor can' t be mistaken as real objrcts ( literal artwork rule, see advanced editing ruleset )
04/09/2013 01:53:03 PM · #14
Originally posted by nam:

Can I create a design on my computer and use the monitor for a backdrop?


See the first 3 places, as well as the 5th, 6th, and 8th of the last challenge for your answer. Yes you can.
04/10/2013 07:46:06 PM · #15
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Originally posted by nam:

Can I create a design on my computer and use the monitor for a backdrop?


See the first 3 places, as well as the 5th, 6th, and 8th of the last challenge for your answer. Yes you can.


So if the designed background showing on the monitor is a photo must it be taken during the challenge period?
04/10/2013 08:58:44 PM · #16
Originally posted by mike_311:

Originally posted by nam:

Can I create a design on my computer and use the monitor for a backdrop?


im thinking no.


Yeah I'm fairly confident the answer is no on that one too. If you look the first challenge was in 2006 and the rules have since changed about photographing artwork that fools the viewer and is prominent, and a photo of a photo still falls in there I'm guessing. Personally, I wouldn't risk it, but perhaps the S.C. can jump in to clarify.

The rule is this.

You May: include images that are clearly recognizable as existing artwork when photographing your entry. Images that could be mistaken for real objects in the scene may also be included, but must not be so prominent that voters are basically judging a photo of a photo.

The problem is, is the background considered too prominent. I would guess yes, but my opinion doesn't mean squat :) Best to check with the S.C. on this one...

Message edited by author 2013-04-10 20:59:21.
04/10/2013 09:03:01 PM · #17
Since I suggested this challenge, I'll be sure to comment on 100%.
04/10/2013 09:34:26 PM · #18
Originally posted by Sirashley:

... Personally, I wouldn't risk it, but perhaps the S.C. can jump in to clarify.

... or not. :-(

You can try and get an "informal opinion" from SC members by submitting a ticket (attach the photo and a detailed description) before the challenge starts, but you may or may not get an answer which will give you a clear yes/no option ...
04/10/2013 10:02:30 PM · #19
What I have in mind is not entirely a preexisting photo, the original photo to be involved would be mine, but unless I go and reshoot it (may not be possible) the background photo was not taken within the challenge time.
04/11/2013 09:18:52 AM · #20
And what I have in mind is just a design. Like blocks of color or stripes or even a gradient. Can I make a new file, fill it with colors but not a recognizable object, save as a jpg, project on my monitor, and photograph the objects against that background?
I have tried other ways and just don't have the lighting equipment to participate otherwise. I didn't realize the rules had changed, so I thought this would be ok.
Can anyone provide another more recent example from a different challenge that would have been validated?
04/11/2013 12:39:21 PM · #21
I think a color gradient would be fine. I know people use backgrounds all the time that include colors or patterns. The rule states You May: include images that are clearly recognizable as existing artwork when photographing your entry. Images that could be mistaken for real objects in the scene may also be included, but must not be so prominent that voters are basically judging a photo of a photo.
I don't think colors or gradients could be mistaken as real objects but I could be wrong. I had the same idea and already entered.
04/11/2013 12:59:22 PM · #22
This is the old rule prior to 2009 You may "include existing images or artwork as part of your composition as long as the entry does not appear to consist entirely of a pre-existing photograph in order to circumvent date or editing rules or fool the voters into thinking you actually captured the original photograph" It sounds to me like they don't want photographs not color or patterned backgrounds.
04/11/2013 02:18:57 PM · #23
Originally posted by illini75:

It sounds to me like they don't want photographs not color or patterned backgrounds.


My reading is that the rule is meant to avoid tricking the viewer. If they think they are judging an existing.photo, then it is a violation. If you pose a few glasses of water in front of a screen saver picture of a tropical island, it should be clear that the picture is of the glasses. Do the same thing for a thanksgiving challenge and use an old picture of a dinner, and the viewer will see the background as the subject. Any background is fine,.as long as it is clear that it is just a background, not the subject.

Message edited by author 2013-04-11 14:20:37.
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