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11/28/2012 03:17:42 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by JH:
tbh, I didn't expect this thread to turn into the old 'mac versus pc' debate |
There are strengths and weaknesses on both platforms, but since you already have a Mac it should be a pretty easy decision. The advantages of integration tilt the functionality and user experience in ways that a standalone device can never hope to match regardless of specs. |
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11/28/2012 04:10:07 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
...the apps lag far behind those available for the iPad in both quantity and quality. |
This has to be one of my biggest disappointments in the whole market segment - there isn't a common development platform, and I have to agree - at least in my experience. The iPad's apps seem to be higher quality, and it is so frustrating to not be able to find the same app for Android (or like LogMeIn, who wants $30 for their app on 'Droid, when it is free on Apple). |
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11/28/2012 04:50:08 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by GAP2012:
Originally posted by Neil:
I have a Kindle Fire (original) and it's a bit small and heavy but otherwise, it's ok. Great for reading, but I personally find the smaller tablets too small for browsing the web. (I don't have a smartphone for that reason, and a bunch of others.)
But what I'd want is a tablet that would let me offload my memory cards...so I don't need a laptop. Otherwise, I'd be traveling with everything. A memory slot (SD) and a USB connection to a hard drive would be super...then you could basically transfer and browse your files (and maybe even do minor editing). I don't understand why EVERY tablet doesn't do that. But especially Apple, given the focus they have on photography and film.
Until I find the right one, I'll just stay with my convertible laptop (HP TM2) It's a bit heavy compared to a tablet, but it's not much bigger (well, it's thicker). And not I have win8 on it, so it got some newness to it. But I would love to see the same functionality in a thinner and lighter form factor. We'll see how the surface pro is. But it would be nice for Apple and Samsung to come to the party. |
with the samsung new pad 10" you can get a samsung made adapter for both usb and SD cards that slot into its interface and give you the option to use those storage devices, i have seen them and the new pad and its great.. but go have a look and play with it and other devices including the ipad etc and see if its for you.. dont rely on marketing and ask questions and if you get misleading information, checkout whirlpool and other sites for tech advice or what problems and resolutions there are... and that will help a bit.. thats what i would suggest.. and kindle and other readers like it are perfect for ebooks and will last much longer on battery and are perfect for what they are no question on that...
i hope that and other information is/was useful regardless... :O) happy computing :O) |
Works like a champ with the Nexus 10 too.. |
So in both cases I can transfer from the SD to the hard drive? I want to access the pics on the tablet (from the SD or HD), but given the limited storage and the fact that I have 64GB in my camera and I shoot a lot while away from home, I wouldn't want to store the data on the tablet. And I wouldn't want to have to upload them somewhere either, given the size. I want to back up to the hard drive, check the files, then erase the SD.
I am guessing this doesn't work for the iPad...at least back in the iPad 1 I recall there was no way to copy to a USB hard drive from the iPad. But someone let me know if it does (that would keep that as an option for me!)
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11/28/2012 10:27:44 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by Neil:
I am guessing this doesn't work for the iPad...at least back in the iPad 1 I recall there was no way to copy to a USB hard drive from the iPad. But someone let me know if it does (that would keep that as an option for me!) |
Sure you can. Much easier if you own a Mac (that integration thing), but you can also transfer files through iTunes, iCloud or directly via a variety of apps like USB Disk & File Transfer. |
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11/29/2012 01:07:49 AM · #55 |
Originally posted by Neil:
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by GAP2012:
Originally posted by Neil:
I have a Kindle Fire (original) and it's a bit small and heavy but otherwise, it's ok. Great for reading, but I personally find the smaller tablets too small for browsing the web. (I don't have a smartphone for that reason, and a bunch of others.)
But what I'd want is a tablet that would let me offload my memory cards...so I don't need a laptop. Otherwise, I'd be traveling with everything. A memory slot (SD) and a USB connection to a hard drive would be super...then you could basically transfer and browse your files (and maybe even do minor editing). I don't understand why EVERY tablet doesn't do that. But especially Apple, given the focus they have on photography and film.
Until I find the right one, I'll just stay with my convertible laptop (HP TM2) It's a bit heavy compared to a tablet, but it's not much bigger (well, it's thicker). And not I have win8 on it, so it got some newness to it. But I would love to see the same functionality in a thinner and lighter form factor. We'll see how the surface pro is. But it would be nice for Apple and Samsung to come to the party. |
with the samsung new pad 10" you can get a samsung made adapter for both usb and SD cards that slot into its interface and give you the option to use those storage devices, i have seen them and the new pad and its great.. but go have a look and play with it and other devices including the ipad etc and see if its for you.. dont rely on marketing and ask questions and if you get misleading information, checkout whirlpool and other sites for tech advice or what problems and resolutions there are... and that will help a bit.. thats what i would suggest.. and kindle and other readers like it are perfect for ebooks and will last much longer on battery and are perfect for what they are no question on that...
i hope that and other information is/was useful regardless... :O) happy computing :O) |
Works like a champ with the Nexus 10 too.. |
So in both cases I can transfer from the SD to the hard drive? I want to access the pics on the tablet (from the SD or HD), but given the limited storage and the fact that I have 64GB in my camera and I shoot a lot while away from home, I wouldn't want to store the data on the tablet. And I wouldn't want to have to upload them somewhere either, given the size. I want to back up to the hard drive, check the files, then erase the SD.
I am guessing this doesn't work for the iPad...at least back in the iPad 1 I recall there was no way to copy to a USB hard drive from the iPad. But someone let me know if it does (that would keep that as an option for me!) |
ASUS transformer with dock. USB and SD reader. |
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11/30/2012 10:49:38 AM · #56 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Neil:
I am guessing this doesn't work for the iPad...at least back in the iPad 1 I recall there was no way to copy to a USB hard drive from the iPad. But someone let me know if it does (that would keep that as an option for me!) |
Sure you can. Much easier if you own a Mac (that integration thing), but you can also transfer files through iTunes, iCloud or directly via a variety of apps like USB Disk & File Transfer. |
I just want to carry a small tablet, my camera, and a small HD like a WD Passport. So no computer. No internet or wireless. I'm talking about when I travel of course...I don't generally need a tablet at home! Nothing beats a 30" screen, except for two 30" screens. :)
So: I can still carry a small hard drive and transfer from the iPad (or through the iPad from SD to HD)?
Sounds like a lot of the other tablets do it, but the iPad is more tempting because of the photo tools available. Though it may be a problem for me because I refuse to load iTunes on my desktop.
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11/30/2012 11:15:34 AM · #57 |
Originally posted by Neil:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Neil:
I am guessing this doesn't work for the iPad...at least back in the iPad 1 I recall there was no way to copy to a USB hard drive from the iPad. But someone let me know if it does (that would keep that as an option for me!) |
Sure you can. Much easier if you own a Mac (that integration thing), but you can also transfer files through iTunes, iCloud or directly via a variety of apps like USB Disk & File Transfer. |
I just want to carry a small tablet, my camera, and a small HD like a WD Passport. So no computer. No internet or wireless. I'm talking about when I travel of course...I don't generally need a tablet at home! Nothing beats a 30" screen, except for two 30" screens. :)
So: I can still carry a small hard drive and transfer from the iPad (or through the iPad from SD to HD)?
Sounds like a lot of the other tablets do it, but the iPad is more tempting because of the photo tools available. Though it may be a problem for me because I refuse to load iTunes on my desktop. |
you will unfortunately need itunes at some point to do anything... but hey..its a choice :O) |
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11/30/2012 11:32:32 AM · #58 |
Originally posted by dtremain:
Originally posted by scalvert:
...the apps lag far behind those available for the iPad in both quantity and quality. |
This has to be one of my biggest disappointments in the whole market segment - there isn't a common development platform, and I have to agree - at least in my experience. The iPad's apps seem to be higher quality, and it is so frustrating to not be able to find the same app for Android (or like LogMeIn, who wants $30 for their app on 'Droid, when it is free on Apple). |
first of all its $26 a one off payment, yes when your paying im sure $4 is or isnt a big difference, secondly the pro version on IOS is $20 per month yes per month, Thirdly Androinds version ignition is the same as buying the pro version on IOS from the apps store the same features are in ignition as in pro on ios! you also dont have to pay for a lot of apps on android that you have been for years on IOS, so it is swings and roundabouts, and there are more apps made on the main two and even MS platforms at the same time and yes there will always be IOS only apps as there are android only apps but like ive said before and i'll say one more time there will be in the near and distant future more androids and therefore more software in time than IOS just because its open platform and its also a bigger market share. |
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11/30/2012 11:37:25 AM · #59 |
Originally posted by Neil:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Neil:
I am guessing this doesn't work for the iPad...at least back in the iPad 1 I recall there was no way to copy to a USB hard drive from the iPad. But someone let me know if it does (that would keep that as an option for me!) |
Sure you can. Much easier if you own a Mac (that integration thing), but you can also transfer files through iTunes, iCloud or directly via a variety of apps like USB Disk & File Transfer. |
I just want to carry a small tablet, my camera, and a small HD like a WD Passport. So no computer. No internet or wireless. I'm talking about when I travel of course...I don't generally need a tablet at home! Nothing beats a 30" screen, except for two 30" screens. :)
So: I can still carry a small hard drive and transfer from the iPad (or through the iPad from SD to HD)?
Sounds like a lot of the other tablets do it, but the iPad is more tempting because of the photo tools available. Though it may be a problem for me because I refuse to load iTunes on my desktop. |
theres usually a way around anything you have to transfer to any device you have... its just mac to mac is easier most of the time, but anything else to anything else will be easier in time on an open platform, because your not locked into itunes or apples way of doing everything ;O) just something to think about for later on... |
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11/30/2012 12:29:30 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by GAP2012:
Originally posted by mike_311:
if you get an android make sure you get one from a company that is reliable for updates. i just got ICS for mine. unless you plan to root it, you will be at the mercy of the hardware manufacturer for updates. |
yes it will be important to be able to update to Jelly bean too and you will see an even better performance increase and smoothness than Ice Cream Sandwich... just waiting for my carrier to release jeally bean on my Samsung Galaxy SIII and it'll be flying even quicker than it is and just much quicker than iphone.. ;o) |
loving the android love here. I have a S3 phone and a Thrive tablet also. My only grief with the tablet is that facebook (and one or two other apps) seem to be in a continual state of "beta" for the look/feel. Some features do not show up on the tablet that do on other mobile devices, and some do not work even though they appear. I'm running the latest updates (i check every night, habitually, hoping for the miracle fix to address my problem with it) on all apps/OS but i will say that hardware-wise the Thrive is the best deal i've ever seen. Full HDMI, USB ports, full-size SD card slot, usb will recognize up to several terabytes in removable media, same with SD, can hook up to my TV for downloaded video playback, it's fantastic.
I recommend the thrive and S3 to anybody who asks me about what i think is a good tablet or smartphone for anybody who isn't over 60 as a default (and for any who are over 60 and technically sound, i recommend these for you).
Why wait for "the next big thing from apple" when other companies include it as a basic component in a more tech-friendly, less expensive alternative? Go Android and feel the freedom! |
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11/30/2012 07:13:33 PM · #61 |
I recommend the thrive and S3 to anybody who asks me about what i think is a good tablet or smartphone for anybody who isn't over 60 as a default (and for any who are over 60 and technically sound, i recommend these for you).
Why wait for "the next big thing from apple" when other companies include it as a basic component in a more tech-friendly, less expensive alternative? Go Android and feel the freedom! [/quote]
Exactly! +1 |
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11/30/2012 08:05:15 PM · #62 |
| David Pogue of the NY Times had an article comparing tablets a couple of days ago. You might also want to check out his article on the $250 Chromebook laptop ... |
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11/30/2012 09:26:37 PM · #63 |
Thanks for the links. I'm not convinced by the ChromeBook yet, it doesn't really know what it is. For a basic browser it's great, but I think it'd struggle at other things tablets do well (running apps locally, camera/video etc.)
At the moment I have a pocket full of cash leaning towards the iPad Mini. It looks sweet, and is getting great reviews.
I only hope my Kindle doesn't get jealous. |
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12/01/2012 12:21:52 AM · #64 |
Originally posted by Neil:
So: I can still carry a small hard drive and transfer from the iPad (or through the iPad from SD to HD)? |
Probably. You can certainly connect from HD to iPad by using a wireless portable drive, a similar flash storage solution, or a wired hard drive and Apple's Camera Kit Connector (the latter also has the advantage of accepting CompactFlash cards). |
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12/01/2012 05:08:46 AM · #65 |
I think they're selling one of the versions at 199 now. And there's talk of a touch screen version coming soon but it still sounds meh.
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12/06/2012 11:52:25 PM · #66 |
I haven't been following this thread until now. Just bought a Google Nexus 7 a couple of days ago. 7" screen, Android 4.2 (Jellybean), I got the 32Gb version as the 16 was sold out. Not expecting to really use it much for photography other than sometimes displaying my photos to someone. Still figuring out everything I can do with it.
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12/06/2012 11:56:55 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
I haven't been following this thread until now. Just bought a Google Nexus 7 a couple of days ago. 7" screen, Android 4.2 (Jellybean), I got the 32Gb version as the 16 was sold out. Not expecting to really use it much for photography other than sometimes displaying my photos to someone. Still figuring out everything I can do with it. |
I rather like my Nexus 10 for use as an information display that is compact and can work alongside my laptop while on the road.
Plays movies real nice too, and web-browsing is enjoyable as well. |
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12/07/2012 05:58:31 AM · #68 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Just bought a Google Nexus 7 a couple of days ago. 7" screen, Android 4.2 (Jellybean), I got the 32Gb version as the 16 was sold out. |
Ah, good to hear I'm not alone.
I'm having the same problems getting hold of an iPad Mini (here in Europe anyway).
Apple store has 31st Dec as earliest delivery. All the high street retailers can put me on a waiting list for delivery "sometime in January or February" |
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12/07/2012 03:02:09 PM · #69 |
The iPad as a Hand-Held Darkroom
Also ... "On the 27-inch model [iMac], you can install as much as 32 gigabytes yourself, through an easily opened door. (That, for the record, is about 262,144 times the memory as the original Macintosh.)" |
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12/07/2012 03:52:16 PM · #70 |
owned the kindle... ditched it for the ipad in less than 6 months.
It was slow, limited and i hated almost every moment of it. I'm in love with my ipad 3. |
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12/10/2012 04:04:31 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
...and the apps lag far behind those available for the iPad in both quantity and quality. |
A couple of years ago, that was true. Now, not so much. Because of what I do for a living, I have access to an assortment of pads and phones. App quality and quantity is very similar. Most of the apps anyone cares about are available on both platforms.
The real answer has to do with what you're really going to use the thing for, and how much you're really willing to spend. For video, you want either a 10" pad/tablet (best), or a 7" Android tablet (good enough). Android tablets are 16:9, so video plays without letterboxing. The 4:3 iPad mini is too small to happily watch video. For web surfing, a large pad/tablet is best, but for book reading, a 7" pad/tablet is best (and Android is better, because the 16:9 form factor is easier to hold in one hand).
At home, I leave a Nexus 7 sitting on my coffee table. The big iPad is clearly a better device, but I prefer the smaller 7" form factor, and the Nexus 7 is the best of those (yes, I think it's better than the iPad mini for what I'm using it for, ie reading, email, video, some web browsing). On the road, I usually take a big iPad, because it has 4G, and I can usually get away without needing to bring a laptop. |
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12/11/2012 09:12:44 AM · #72 |
I have a kindle fire. I mostly read books, it's great.
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12/11/2012 09:43:40 AM · #73 |
I've got a Kindle w/keyboard - it's probably the best designed device ever for reading books. As Amazon say, they wanted the device to 'disappear' when you're reading, and it does. The display is just so good for reading text, I love it.
Plus, it's extremely easy to download samples of books, and buy new ones.
Oh, I tried a Nabi 2 at the weekend; a tablet targeted at kids. It's fantastic! - It's a full 7" android tablet that they've put a kid-friendly UI on, it's robust, great performance, and even the camera is good (much better than these 640k pixel barbie cameras you get in toys) |
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12/12/2012 06:06:27 AM · #74 |
One more reason to go with iPad, by Papal Decree.
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12/12/2012 09:35:03 AM · #75 |
Originally posted by JH:
One more reason to go with iPad, by Papal Decree. |
Well, most Apple fanboys do seem to take it to the level of a religious experience.
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