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08/15/2012 04:54:16 PM · #1 |
"Fractal of a fractal of a fractal. Similar patterns recur at progressively smaller scales...partly random or chaotic".
I am a bit confused. I have been on the inetrnet for several hours now. It seems that many (most?) of the really impressive Fractal images are "created" (i.e no photgraph as a starting point). However, I have also checked and played a bit with gimp on some of my pics and you can create fractal images based on a photograph.
Which one are we allowed to use here?
Thanks for your replies.
PS - those fractal images on the net are AMAZING! |
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08/15/2012 04:59:44 PM · #2 |
I believe the idea is to find an example of a fractal pattern in the environment (natural or man-made) and photograph that.
Previous discussion here.
Message edited by author 2012-08-15 17:00:55. |
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08/15/2012 05:30:50 PM · #3 |
Fractal like patterns tend to appear in nature. The classic example is the coastline. From space, zooming in from 60 miles high to 50 feet in the air tends to produce very similar organic patterns.
I expect to see lots of leaves and tree branches, flowers etc.
Advanced editing implies finding fractals in real life, so using post processing to render a photo into a fractal should result in a DQ. |
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08/15/2012 05:48:21 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by brucedgates:
Advanced editing implies finding fractals in real life, so using post processing to render a photo into a fractal should result in a DQ. |
That's for sure. Or we could enter stuff like this:
But that's only possible with expert editing. Look for fractal patterns in nature; they are everywhere. |
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08/15/2012 08:31:00 PM · #5 |
| Previous discussion here: Fractals |
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08/15/2012 08:45:31 PM · #6 |
Except, "A fractal of a fractal of a fractal" doesn't really make sense.
More appropriate would be "A pattern of a pattern of a pattern"... |
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08/15/2012 08:49:05 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by JamesDowning:
Except, "A fractal of a fractal of a fractal" doesn't really make sense. |
I suspect it's just a bit of "poetic license" ... consonant with the idea that fractals are often drescibe as repeating patterns, and intended to sound more vibrant than:
Title: Fractal
Description: N/A |
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08/16/2012 03:05:28 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by brucedgates:
Advanced editing implies finding fractals in real life, so using post processing to render a photo into a fractal should result in a DQ. |
Thank you all for replying and sending links - some good further reading found there. The short answer I was looking for is really the above one :-) - thank you :-)
Personally I find this challenge a bit "tricky" ... I mean really, you could photograph *any* naturally occuring subject. From what I have been googling the mathematicians try to find a formula for everything ;-). Now to be "original" for the challenge .....
Thanks again for everyone's help
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08/16/2012 03:08:34 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
That's for sure. Or we could enter stuff like this:
But that's only possible with expert editing. Look for fractal patterns in nature; they are everywhere. |
LOL - not for me it's not expert editing - push 2 buttons on the keyboard - no "expert" needed ;-) (not diminishing your photograph, just trying to say that these things are all pre-programmed in the big photo editing software available today :-)) |
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08/16/2012 11:37:02 PM · #10 |
| Could a fireworks explosion be considered a fractal? I'm having a really hard time getting my head around this one. |
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08/17/2012 12:44:20 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by kasaba:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
That's for sure. Or we could enter stuff like this:
But that's only possible with expert editing. Look for fractal patterns in nature; they are everywhere. |
LOL - not for me it's not expert editing - push 2 buttons on the keyboard - no "expert" needed ;-) (not diminishing your photograph, just trying to say that these things are all pre-programmed in the big photo editing software available today :-)) |
You think so? Give it a try: here's my original:
Grab your software, push two buttons, make it happen. Or not... This one's wildly complex. I acknowledge that some of the more kaleidoscopic flip-n-blends are pretty routine, but something like this is way beyond that. It took a lot of work to realize it. |
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08/17/2012 01:14:23 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by kasaba:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
That's for sure. Or we could enter stuff like this:
But that's only possible with expert editing. Look for fractal patterns in nature; they are everywhere. |
LOL - not for me it's not expert editing - push 2 buttons on the keyboard - no "expert" needed ;-) (not diminishing your photograph, just trying to say that these things are all pre-programmed in the big photo editing software available today :-)) |
You think so? Give it a try: here's my original:
Grab your software, push two buttons, make it happen. Or not... This one's wildly complex. I acknowledge that some of the more kaleidoscopic flip-n-blends are pretty routine, but something like this is way beyond that. It took a lot of work to realize it. |
I wonder if anyone can take the final creation and 'push buttons' to re-create the original? (Without the benefit of published processing steps.)
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08/17/2012 05:22:25 PM · #13 |
| Dumb question...does this challenge relate to natural fractals (patterns occurring naturally) or flip and blend fractals? |
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08/17/2012 05:40:07 PM · #14 |
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08/17/2012 06:51:11 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
The former ...! |
DEFINITELY the former. :-) |
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08/17/2012 10:40:45 PM · #16 |
| I'll repeat my question. Is a fireworks explosion an example of a fractal pattern? |
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08/18/2012 04:49:45 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by nam:
I'll repeat my question. Is a fireworks explosion an example of a fractal pattern? |
Im no expert in the matter, but IMO it would only work if you can depict similar patterns recurring at smaller scales in your capture |
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08/18/2012 09:24:26 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by nam:
I'll repeat my question. Is a fireworks explosion an example of a fractal pattern? |
For me, no. Not most of them, anyway. There is a kind of firework that sends out a globular burst and each element of that burst emits a smaller, globular burst, and I suppose that's at least the beginning of a fractal-type thing, but... |
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08/18/2012 09:48:32 AM · #19 |
Got it. Thanks  Bear_Music and rockyrajan |
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08/18/2012 10:16:21 AM · #20 |
I was surprised to find a forum dedicated to fractals (computer generated). A computational craft, and community, that I did not know existed.
but is it art |
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08/18/2012 11:09:12 AM · #21 |
| I followed your link & then another link to Mandelwerk. Interesting. Thanks! |
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08/18/2012 12:00:30 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by nam:
I'll repeat my question. Is a fireworks explosion an example of a fractal pattern? |
For me, no. Not most of them, anyway. There is a kind of firework that sends out a globular burst and each element of that burst emits a smaller, globular burst, and I suppose that's at least the beginning of a fractal-type thing, but... |
last nail in coffin... fireworks are not natural in any sense of the word.
but then again, reading the challenge description, i guess the fractal does not have to be "in nature" per se... it was hahn23 who started us down that route of discussion.
-m
p.s. here's one for vawendy
Fractal Squirrel
;-)
Message edited by author 2012-08-18 12:28:50. |
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08/18/2012 12:31:19 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by mefnj:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by nam:
I'll repeat my question. Is a fireworks explosion an example of a fractal pattern? |
For me, no. Not most of them, anyway. There is a kind of firework that sends out a globular burst and each element of that burst emits a smaller, globular burst, and I suppose that's at least the beginning of a fractal-type thing, but... |
last nail in coffin... fireworks are not natural in any sense of the word.
but then again, reading the challenge description, i guess the fractal does not have to be "in nature" per se... it was hahn23 who started us down that route of discussion.
-m
p.s. here's one for vawendy
Fractal Squirrel
;-) |
It doesnt have to be natural.. As per my understanding, only computer created fractals arent acceptable. Anything else goes i suppose |
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08/18/2012 01:13:49 PM · #24 |
I think it bears repeating....
anything you can take a picture of with your camera & edit within the Advanced ruleset that results in a composition with obvious fractal qualities is within the challenge.
Made by man or made by nature, both are OK. |
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08/18/2012 02:41:09 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
The former ...! |
Thank you. |
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