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07/07/2012 10:12:43 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by spiritualspatula: As far as replacements... definitely consider the D90. It's not the newest, but it will be a great improvement over the D80. The screen alone will blow you away. It uses the same chip as the D300 I use, so I'm pretty familiar with how it behaves. It tends to overexpose reds and oranges but is great otherwise. You should be able to find one used very reasonably. KEH is a good used retailer and I trust their judgements on grading.
If the money isn't an issue, the D7000 would be good, but is quite a big jump. The 90 is much more similar, though still an improvement. |
Thanks Derek...money is always an issue isn't it...or am I alone in this...pfffttt
here are my thoughts...the D90 is a definite step up...but the D7000 is like 4 steps up right? And since I don't do this often...I'm going to go for the D7000 (at least I think so). And your D300 is a full frame right...is it not slower in shutter speed than the D7000? Better for "set-up"/portrait work? Or do I have the wrong idea...
I know that before when I was looking at camera the D300 (or the hundreds) felt soooooo huge in my hands. I've handled a D7000 and it might be slightly bigger but not by much??? Plus the price jump here is HUGE right?
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07/07/2012 10:24:46 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Ja-9: Originally posted by JiaBob: I saw where another D80 user tried "holding down the two green buttons (+/- and AF)" and that temporarily brought the camera out of its funk. Not sure if it will work. |
Tried this...nada... |
That is a "soft" reset. Maybe try a hard reset - per a conversation on Flickr - look for a little switch under the big rubber cover next to the USB port (viewed from top rear). Press it with a toothpick or pin. |
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07/07/2012 10:29:07 PM · #28 |
I think you should attempt a hard chock reset: jam the d80 (body only) firmly in behind your car tire. Wedge it in there good. Back the vehicle up and over.
This will have the effect of forcing a full replacement :-) |
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07/07/2012 10:34:04 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by chromeydome: I think you should attempt a hard chock reset: jam the d80 (body only) firmly in behind your car tire. Wedge it in there good. Back the vehicle up and over.
This will have the effect of forcing a full replacement :-) |
snort...hmmmmm wonder what Rick (husband) would say....actually I DON'T WONDER at all... |
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07/07/2012 10:36:13 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by fldave: Originally posted by Ja-9: Originally posted by JiaBob: I saw where another D80 user tried "holding down the two green buttons (+/- and AF)" and that temporarily brought the camera out of its funk. Not sure if it will work. |
Tried this...nada... |
That is a "soft" reset. Maybe try a hard reset - per a conversation on Flickr - look for a little switch under the big rubber cover next to the USB port (viewed from top rear). Press it with a toothpick or pin. |
Problem we had today (maybe the Tech on Monday can) but we didn't have enough power to do anything...all I could see on my screen on top was the battery level...no other info (usually there is...) we did try both resets...but not enough power...sigh |
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07/07/2012 10:38:39 PM · #31 |
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07/07/2012 10:39:38 PM · #32 |
Have you tried plugging in a USB cable to bypass the battery entirely? |
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07/07/2012 10:45:21 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by fldave: Have you tried plugging in a USB cable to bypass the battery entirely? |
without the battery it won't work...at least with mine...It seems that I'm missing one cord...my husband was asking if I had one cord that hooked to the electricity and to the camera...I don't seem to have that...
the one that hooks from the computer to the camera does not give enough power |
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07/07/2012 10:46:32 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by ambaker: Dirty battery contacts? |
cked the battery...will have to wait for the technician to ck inside the battery compartment in the camera...to dark to see...and I'm Leary of sticking anything up there...hmmmm |
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07/07/2012 10:47:33 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Ja-9: Originally posted by fldave: Have you tried plugging in a USB cable to bypass the battery entirely? |
without the battery it won't work...at least with mine...It seems that I'm missing one cord...my husband was asking if I had one cord that hooked to the electricity and to the camera...I don't seem to have that...
the one that hooks from the computer to the camera does not give enough power |
I think it might actually be the cord that connects the flash to the camera (power/remote flash)???
As I don't have an external flash I wouldn't know
Message edited by author 2012-07-07 22:47:52. |
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07/07/2012 10:49:27 PM · #36 |
what do you guys think of this company...anyone use them?
BPPhoto |
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07/07/2012 11:00:33 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by Ja-9: what do you guys think of this company...anyone use them?
BPPhoto |
It has only an 8.3 rating. Reseller rating link for bestpricephoto.. I would pass on them. |
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07/07/2012 11:01:25 PM · #38 |
in the reviews I was reading it was either...love it or hate it...hmmm |
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07/07/2012 11:08:17 PM · #39 |
Most of the stuff I have, I've purchased online either from B&H or Adorama. Never had a problem with them. Both B&H and Adorama have customer service reps that monitor DPC, and they have been pretty responsive to customer service issues. Just my 2cents though. |
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07/07/2012 11:11:08 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Ja-9:
Thanks Derek...money is always an issue isn't it...or am I alone in this...pfffttt
here are my thoughts...the D90 is a definite step up...but the D7000 is like 4 steps up right? And since I don't do this often...I'm going to go for the D7000 (at least I think so). And your D300 is a full frame right...is it not slower in shutter speed than the D7000? Better for "set-up"/portrait work? Or do I have the wrong idea...
I know that before when I was looking at camera the D300 (or the hundreds) felt soooooo huge in my hands. I've handled a D7000 and it might be slightly bigger but not by much??? Plus the price jump here is HUGE right? |
D300 is not full frame, but the D700 is. As you noted, though, the D300 is much larger, and a much more robust camera. It is also built with a fundamentally different controls approach. You won't find any modes beyond PSAM, for instance. It's frame rate, and that of the D700 as well, is 6 fps without the grip, 8 with it. The D300 won't be that much more than a D90, but it likely will be. The market for them now is pretty good for the buyer, but it's also a larger camera, so realistically, the D90 would be more appropriate there. I'd suggest either the D7000 or the D90, which ever funds allow. I understand what you're saying so far as "don't do this often," but I think if you've liked the D80, you'd like the D90, as well. Admittedly, however, I have not personally handled a D7000, while I have handled D80's and D90's. |
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07/07/2012 11:32:07 PM · #41 |
Always had good service from B&H and also Beach Camera. |
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07/07/2012 11:41:39 PM · #42 |
You're one to keep your equipment for a long time. With that in mind, I would get the d7000. It's newer technology that the D90. Its the model between the d90 and d300s. I think d7000 has the magnesium body with some weather sealing too.
Also have you checked your local Craigslist? Might be able to find one for $900- 1000. Just a thought. |
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07/08/2012 12:35:59 AM · #43 |
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07/08/2012 12:36:33 AM · #44 |
I hate to hear this Janine. I have an extra Fuji S3 Pro that you can take on vacation if you want. It's not perfect, but it does work pretty well.
The D7000 will work in either manual or aperture mode with the older Nikon Ai lenses, or any other lens that you can lock on or hold in front of it. It meters in aperture mode with the older Ai Nikkor and other Ai Nikon mount lenses like your Vivitar macro.
It records the aperture info and lens data, but you have to manually enter the focal length and max aperture before shooting if you want it to be correct in the exif. It shoots just fine, but has no way of "knowing" what manual lens is on it unless you enter that data.
The 7000 has been a joy ride from day one for me.
There is one snag with it though. It only shoots full TTL with the current crop of Nikon Speedlights. The older SB 80 DX that I have works but only in auto mode, and not DTTL. I think the SB 700, and up will work full featured with it.
ETA, I'm also thinking that it may be a battery contact problem. If they have a power supply at the store that they can plug into the camera, you may want to try that to see if it will fire up on external power.
Message edited by author 2012-07-08 00:43:07.
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07/08/2012 01:13:51 AM · #45 |
I thought I read somewhere in a magazine that batteries aren't quite fully charged when you get them at the store, it pays to charge it fully at home before using in the camera.
In any case, it sounds as if you are up for an upgraded model. |
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07/08/2012 02:38:59 AM · #46 |
Originally posted by Ja-9: Originally posted by HarveyG: D80, D90, D300, D300S and D7000 have in-body focussing motors so if you have or want to buy "older" AF-D lenses they will AF. All the other models, D3000, D3100, D3200, D5000, D5100 DO NOT HAVE in body focussing motors and ONLY AF on AF-S lenses where the LENS has the focussing motor inside it. AF-D will work on the Dxxxx models and will meter but not AF (Auto-Focus). |
I think all of my lens (see my list) will work with the D7000...Waddy and I have talked about it...
I have 2 Vivitar Manual ones...I think they will work...NOT as AF...but Manual
Can you look at my list of lens Harvey and see if you think they would all wk??? Please |
Howdy, all good advice except perhaps switching brands :) I say that because sticking with a body, buttons, menu system you are very familiar with is less painful than switching to one you don't, especially in moments of urgent fast action.
You have more useful and varied F-Mount lenses than your other brand anyway :P
Why not sell those other lenses and body to fund a D7000 or use the clams and get your D80 repaired as a backup? If repair too expensive, use the clams to get a loved D-whatever.
Realistically you have to do what's good for you and your wallet, or husbands wallet and be pragmatic and patient. All these cameras are good 'upgrades', from D90, D300, D300s and the 'expected' D400 and when/if it comes out will drive the previous models prices down further. It's in your favour.
The D7000 will work with all your listed lenses (as will the D300 and D300s). Even the MF one's. Page 159 of the D7000 User Manual tells you how to program the camera for Non-CPU Lenses; that is program in the Focal Length and Maximum Aperture of each Non-CPU lens :) I wished I had that feature on my D90. The D300 and D300s also have this feature. Very useful for old manual Ai lenses. You can get an old Prime 400/500/600mm f/4 for a steal and take on vawendy hehe.
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07/08/2012 08:02:25 AM · #47 |
Does Nikon sell refurbished cameras like Canon does?
I know canon will also take 20% off the refurbished price if you trade in an older model, functioning or not. |
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07/08/2012 09:23:04 AM · #48 |
wow such good advice and wisdom...wish I had "like" buttons...
Leo, your right - I don't change equipment often...guess I'm just wired that way...so if the Dx with the Tech on Monday is a higher bill than I want to spend NOW, then I'll purchase the D7000 and fix the D80 later for back-up...I will ck out Craigs list...but I'm not really willing to give up my warranty for 2nd hand stuff....kind of mixed feelings about using them to get this...a lens ya, camera...hmmmm not to sure.
Derek...thanks for the validation of my thoughts (you should really run just about now). I have LOVED my D80, but after Waddy let me fondle his D7000...I've been dreaming about that for awhile now...(as Marko has been too!!!) I don't see the D90 as that much of an upgrade but I do see the D7000 as getting me into the "modern" world per say. And since I don't do this often - may as well bite the bullet...It just means PB&J on our trip to CA/OR at the end of this month...
Waddy, thank you my friend for the offer of the Fuji...I will keep it in mind but I think this is the perfect timing to get the new camera. IF we decide to send it off, I'll probably take you up on your offer as the estimated repair time would be 4-6 wks. And with the trip coming up in 3 I have to do something soon. But I'll probably order a new camera by mid-wk. Your such a generous sole...
Mary Ann - I'll probably use B&H or Adorama....but I'll look into Beach as well. I would love to give my business to the local shop, which has a wonderful reputation BUT they are 20-25% higher than online...and sorry but $$ is $$. I will talk to them and ask if they can come closer in the pricing before I order online...never hurts to ask.
Shannon...thanks for the link...nice pkg!!! Even though the BPPhoto is less by 23% I really do think I'll stick with a dealer that has a better reputation...
Heather...the battery that we used at the store was fully cked out that it was good and charged...but good suggestion
Harvey...totally agree about switching brands at this point...I just have way to much into my lens at the moment...I'm trying to figure out my daughters Rebel...(and btw...it feels like a few steps down from my D80, more in the body feel...mind you I'm NOT complaining at the time as I'm going to be using it for the next couple of days - Don't look a gift horse in the mouth right) and the extra body and lens that I have (Canon) are not mine they are my daughters but she is letting me borrow them so I can try to get the pictures of Nolan (grandson) in the next couple of days. I do have one lens - Vivitar MF 18-28mm f/4-4.5 wide angle - that I can't seem to find the sweet spot...it seems to be loosey goosey IMO and I can't find the focal point (could me my eyes...what ya think???) but I bought it used and won't get much for it so it stays on my list...
Mike...the camera shop that I was at yesterday said that IF they could get the camera working "ball park" it would be worth about $170 ish. That information was given so I could decide at what point is it worth repairing vs replacing the camera. I did find a listing for Best Buy (who is going out of business) for trade-ins but I think they're really way off base in their trade-in values - as much a $800+ for excellent condition, but I can buy a refurbished one from Nikon for $350-419 with a 9 grade....so there's no way they would give me $800+ for the camera...pfffttt...BUT I will contact Nikon directly on Monday to talk to them. Who knows.
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07/08/2012 09:43:23 AM · #49 |
Go for it, Janine!!
Go online today and buy it!
Your camera is telling you it's time to upgrade.
Backup cameras are a real blessing. I highly recommend fixing your d80 and keeping it for backup. If you hate the d7000, sell it down the road.
But it doesn't sound like you'll hate it. :D
So do it! Don't wait for the final pricing on the fix -- take it as a sign that it's time to move on and up.
Pretend we're nike:
Just do it!
and come back and gloat to us. :)
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07/08/2012 10:27:40 AM · #50 |
baby pics please!!!! hurry up and get the camera ! |
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