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 05/12/2012 01:08:24 AM · #1
Really?
 05/12/2012 01:42:47 AM · #2
yeah, it's back to almost being 'windows' in windows again
 05/12/2012 02:47:35 AM · #3
OMG, where do I start? Looks like I'll be still on XP for at least 5 more years. >:/
 05/12/2012 07:51:48 AM · #4
i for one cant wait. the tablet world desperately needs a *usable* alternative to apple and the desktop will be just like normal windows since you can turn off metro. windows 8 is their foray into the tablet world and is based off the wp7 phone OS. microsoft has been lagging behind in the whole integrated solution system mainly due to its antitrust issues from years back, while apple has had free reign in that market. now that the DOJ oversight is gone its going to get good and that benefits all of us because apple will need to step up its game. i honestly think google is going to die off. people are going to see what Microsoft and apple are going to be offering and see android for what it truly is, a data mining adventure. they wont be able to match the quality that microsoft and apple are going to command. they only really they are around now is that there was a market for a cheap apple clone.

don't dismiss metro, i have windows wp7 on my phone which runs metro and it, i must says is amazing. take a took at the user reviews for any wp7 phone and you will find customer satisfaction that even apple would be jealous of. in fact ask siri what the best smartphone is and she will recommend a nokia phone which runs wp7.

windows has gotten a bad rap through the years, they however have a LOT of people they have to please, where it is impossible to please everyone, apple provides a good alternative becuase they only have to please their base. windows have such a wide market to appease, but i think this Os will be perfect since its a single sweeping OS that will be able to run on multiple platforms.

05/12/2012 08:07:08 AM · #5
I lost focus and couldn't listen to the guy as soon as I saw that para-sailing dog. From that point on, all I could think of was para-sailing dogs.
 05/12/2012 03:18:21 PM · #6
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Really?


Really? What?

Dave
 05/12/2012 03:23:34 PM · #7
Originally posted by mike_311:
i for one cant wait. the tablet world desperately needs a *usable* alternative to apple and the desktop will be just like normal windows since you can turn off metro. windows 8 is their foray into the tablet world and is based off the wp7 phone OS. microsoft has been lagging behind in the whole integrated solution system mainly due to its antitrust issues from years back, while apple has had free reign in that market. now that the DOJ oversight is gone its going to get good and that benefits all of us because apple will need to step up its game. i honestly think google is going to die off. people are going to see what Microsoft and apple are going to be offering and see android for what it truly is, a data mining adventure. they wont be able to match the quality that microsoft and apple are going to command. they only really they are around now is that there was a market for a cheap apple clone.

don't dismiss metro, i have windows wp7 on my phone which runs metro and it, i must says is amazing. take a took at the user reviews for any wp7 phone and you will find customer satisfaction that even apple would be jealous of. in fact ask siri what the best smartphone is and she will recommend a nokia phone which runs wp7.

windows has gotten a bad rap through the years, they however have a LOT of people they have to please, where it is impossible to please everyone, apple provides a good alternative becuase they only have to please their base. windows have such a wide market to appease, but i think this Os will be perfect since its a single sweeping OS that will be able to run on multiple platforms.


I'm with you Mike. I've used every version of Windows since the beginning...including Windows 1 and Windows 2 which were still DOS based. Before that I was a heavy DOS user and programmer. Windows XP was awesome, but it's no longer supported and it's showing it's age. Personally, I never had any issues with Vista as I knew what drivers to use. Windows 7 is unbelievably stable, and I've used it since the BETA was first released, and continue to use my original Windows 7 x64 install to this day after buying it. I've NEVER had a crash or an issue with it, and it's rock solid. Windows 8 will bring the Metro Interface to the desktop, but the full power of the desktop is still there as it always was. I can't wait until it's released.

Dave
 05/12/2012 03:39:37 PM · #8
Dave to mirror your point I gave had a windows 7 media PC for I guess it's been two and half years since windows 7 came out. It runs 24 hrs a day seven days a week. Its my DVR. Never ever missed a recording. Never crashes. Never needs to be rebooted. Its a testament to stability.

I am however a bit sad that media center has not received an upgrade in windows 8 to this point. That gives no reason to install it on that PC. media center is a hidden gem, it is the father of the metro interface and like many other Microsoft technologies, just tad before there time. either that or poor marketing.

My main desktop will get win 8 though.
 05/12/2012 03:59:31 PM · #9
This user interface is SOOO similar to PlayBook's! its a copy! swiping from sides, the way tabs works in browser etc.
 05/12/2012 06:14:29 PM · #10
Originally posted by MEJazz:
This user interface is SOOO similar to PlayBook's! its a copy! swiping from sides, the way tabs works in browser etc.


It actually looks more like they built off the system they have for the XBox 360 right now
 05/12/2012 06:21:44 PM · #11
I'm sticking with my Windows 3.11 for Workgroups until the technology matures.

Everyone seems to love that sideways icon swiping thing at the moment. Sony have it on the playstation, the iPhone does it, Android does it.

I must admit, I think opening the desktop to not just icons, but tiles that show all that additional info is great. Can someone remind what exactly was the point of 90% of the desktop being taken up with a wallpaper when you boot up?
 05/12/2012 06:23:33 PM · #12
From a technical perspective, it seems like Win8 will be more about the user interface and less about the nuts and bolts of an OS. Like Vista, it seems that (for me) it will be one to skip.
I can't comment on whether I like or dislike the user interface ideas, I have not played with it and probably won't in the near future. It does look like Microsoft has subjugated technical improvements to other endeavors, like making it more adaptable to diverse devices. The new file system originally promised for Win7 never materialized (it's called ReFS), and apparently won't for Win8 either, except for non-boot drives on machines running Win8 Server.
 05/12/2012 08:55:49 PM · #13
I viewed the whole presentation from the perspective of a large-screen desktop user and so swiping and poking at the screen with the finger obviously does not appeal to me. Sure, I can use the mouse to swipe, but that's just annoying. So, for the desktop user, there is nothing that appeals to me. I have always spread out my icons on my desktop where I want 'em since Win 3.1 and I like it that way.

Now get the hell off my lawn. :P
 05/13/2012 12:04:04 AM · #14
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
I viewed the whole presentation from the perspective of a large-screen desktop user and so swiping and poking at the screen with the finger obviously does not appeal to me. Sure, I can use the mouse to swipe, but that's just annoying. So, for the desktop user, there is nothing that appeals to me. I have always spread out my icons on my desktop where I want 'em since Win 3.1 and I like it that way.

Now get the hell off my lawn. :P


Ken, I understand what you are saying, and I can appreciate that. The fact is....you can disable the metro interface and never have to use it. The traditional desktop is still there as before. Windows 8 is more than just an interface change. Nearly every aspect has performance enhancements and other improvements under the hood that a lot of people are overlooking. Also, for those that run dual monitors as I have for a number of years I think it's really cool that you can have your live tiles active on one monitor to see an abundance of information such as weather, incoming mail, tweets and other social networking updates etc such as comments on other photography forums such as Flickr, 500px and more. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before someone programs a DPC update tile where hitting the update button becomes unnecessary as it will automatically update and show the current voting in near real time....depending on the refresh options etc. There is so much that can be done with it.

I do agree that I NEVER want anyone to do away with what I consider traditional computing. I also want to be able to use my computer as you do....the way I always have with icons I want...where I want and when I want etc. Total agreement on that, but if they want to move along with the times and give me additional tools to work with I'm all for that.

Dave
 05/13/2012 12:37:59 AM · #15

not at all an exhaustive list (2000 was great, but that was 5.0, the kernel that XP is based on)

I downloaded a Developer Preview of Windows 8 and I have to say I was pretty frustrated by it. I'm a huge fan of Windows 7, but I'm going to wait on W8. (get that?)

Also, did you see this?
Firefox and Chrome are being banned from certain versions of Windows 8

I like the way someone else put it.
"When Apple does this: "Hey, it's their OS, they can do what they want with it. Frankly, it's less buggy this way. That's why Apple just works and Microsoft suxxzorz lolobluescreen!!!"

When Microsoft does this: "OMG ANTITRUST!!!! SOMEONE START AN INVESTIGATION! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!""

Of course, I realize there is more to it than this, plus the fact that apparently you can install other browsers on the iPad.

Regardless, I was not pleased with (not only) the Metro UI, and a number of other "features" (that may have been limitations of the Developer Preview).
 05/13/2012 01:03:17 AM · #16
Originally posted by adigitalromance:

not at all an exhaustive list (2000 was great, but that was 5.0, the kernel that XP is based on)

I downloaded a Developer Preview of Windows 8 and I have to say I was pretty frustrated by it. I'm a huge fan of Windows 7, but I'm going to wait on W8. (get that?)

Also, did you see this?
Firefox and Chrome are being banned from certain versions of Windows 8

I like the way someone else put it.
"When Apple does this: "Hey, it's their OS, they can do what they want with it. Frankly, it's less buggy this way. That's why Apple just works and Microsoft suxxzorz lolobluescreen!!!"

When Microsoft does this: "OMG ANTITRUST!!!! SOMEONE START AN INVESTIGATION! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!""

Of course, I realize there is more to it than this, plus the fact that apparently you can install other browsers on the iPad.

Regardless, I was not pleased with (not only) the Metro UI, and a number of other "features" (that may have been limitations of the Developer Preview).


Like you said...it was the developer addition...made for developers. I'm not sure why you would expect it to be ready to use other than a bare bones version of code that developers need to get the ball rolling for workable drivers and applications. The consumer preview would have been your best bet which is designed more for the general public. Not that you mentioned it, but I've read many others complain about the developer version, and lack of drivers or metro apps. Um...helllloooo...the developer version is the version released so the developers can create new drivers and live tile apps etc. Why would anyone expect all their current software or new products to work before the drivers were written. That's just plain silly.

As for the browser situation. First, that law suit in the 90's was just a money grab by the DOJ. If it was anything but that than why didn't they go after Apple for installing Safari on their hardware. In the 90's I always had IE, Netscape, Mosaic, Opera, CERN and other obscure browser running on my computer. ANYONE could download and install them and have a choice as to which they preferred. The whole idea that people are so dumb that they couldn't figure out how to use a browser other than IE simply because it came installed was ludicrous.

So, let me ask this....does Apple officially support versions of Chrome and/or Firefox on the ipod,iphone, or ipad without jail breaking the hardware and using a hack version? Last I knew the answer was no....no they didn't. So tell me how Microsoft limiting them on the ARM based devices is different. They can run on a desktop so where is the problem. Apple won't let Flash run on their devices...yet it runs on nearly everything else. Is anyone knocking down their door?

Dave
05/13/2012 01:34:19 AM · #17
That youtube video was made almost a year ago. Let's see what has progressed then. Besides, my husband is part of the team creating Windows 8 :-)
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