Help with CS5... - DPChallenge Forums

03/09/2012 06:14:07 PM · #1

I'm having a few issues that I hope someone can clear up for me.

1st issue: color. I thought I had it set the same as my old CS2, but things were weird. If I use topaz infocus, the colors change. If I use topaz denoise, the color changes again. What's going on. I tried to look up some fixes and I followed someone's advice on the web ( //www.deke.com/content/best-workflow-cs5-the-ideal-color-settings-photoshop-and-cs5 ) who said to set the color profile to Adobe 1998 because it would render what you saw on the screen the same as the web. And my finished product is the same on the web as on my screen. But why while in PS am I getting these color shifts just by opening a topaz program that shouldn't even effect color?

2nd issue: The clone tool does not function the same way it did in CS2. I hate what it does now and want it to function the old way. Anything I can do with this?

And I've forgotten the 3rd issue. Damn memory problems. LOL! When I do remember I'll add it in.

Message edited by author 2012-03-09 18:14:54.

03/09/2012 08:44:55 PM · #2

The web displays photos in the sRGB color space...not Adobe RGB.

03/09/2012 08:57:15 PM · #3

Originally posted by DCNUTTER:

The web displays photos in the sRGB color space...not Adobe RGB.

I understand that. But the color shifts were happening with it set to sRGB as well (the default setting). I think there's just something I'm missing, but I'm clueless where to start.

03/09/2012 09:18:50 PM · #4

Originally posted by Kelli:

Originally posted by DCNUTTER:
The web displays photos in the sRGB color space...not Adobe RGB.

I understand that. But the color shifts were happening with it set to sRGB as well (the default setting). I think there's just something I'm missing, but I'm clueless where to start.

Well, to find out what's going on you have to take it step by step. First what OS do you use. In your OS you have to make sure you either have a color space that you created with a calibration tool such as I have, but in general you should at least use the sRGB color space in your computer settings to at least have the right starting point. From there you want to keep your color space the same through out your work process to keep thing simple. For instance, if you shoot your photos in camera with it set to sRGB, and then bring them into say Lightroom, you should have Lightroom set to sRGB color space as well. Then if you like to finish the off in Photoshop you should have your color space set to sRGB as well. If you have a photo that is brought into Photoshop from Lightroom or another program that's tagged as Adobe RGB it will shift colors when viewed in Photoshop. Usually the colors will be less saturated and washed out when viewing an Adobe RGB tagged photo in the sRGB colorspace. If you see what normally looks like normal reds for instance and skin tones becoming more vibrant and over saturated that normally means you are viewing an sRGB tagged photo in the Adobe RGB color space. If you're working on an untagged photo in Photoshop or an Adobe RGB photo and launch it into most plugins and your Photoshop settings are set to sRGB you will probably see a color shift in most plugins as well.

So the first things to do again, make sure your OS ie. graphic's card is set to sRGB, any software you are using is set to the same workflow color space...for most this will be sRGB unless you know how to convert to sRGB later on, and make sure your photos are already tagged when bringing them into Photoshop. On the bottom left side of Photoshop that normally defaults to show the document side. There is a little arrow there. If you click on that arrow and select "Show" change that to be set to Document Profile. That way you will always be able to see at any time the color space the photo is currently set to.

Dave

Message edited by author 2012-03-09 21:19:41.

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03/09/2012 09:20:16 PM · #5

I just upgraded to CS5 by downloading ti from Adobe's site. I have Topaz, too--upgraded that as well, right after. WIN7. NOT having the issues you describe & I have not changed anything from the install. BTW if you give that clone tool a chance, you will love it. I favor simple solutions--maybe all you need to do is upgrade Topaz.

Message edited by author 2012-03-09 21:22:22.

03/09/2012 09:52:06 PM · #6

I just set my photoshop settings to those described in Deeks article. I opened an untagged photo in photoshop and when I opened topaz adjust 5 you could visibly see the color shift where it became washed out. Probably due to Topaz reading untagged photos as defaulting to sRGB which is common. As I mentioned in my previous post a photo being viewed in the Adobe RGB color space at set by Deeks article will look less vibrant and washed out when viewed in the sRGB color space which is in effect what's going on here.

If I were you I would set my settings back to the default in Photoshop. Go back to Edit/Color Settings and set it to North America General Purpose 2, and then make sure your photo is tagged as sRGB. Again, verify by looking in the bottom left corner of Photoshop after you set it up as mentioned in my previous post. Then open Topaz, and it should look the same.

Dave

03/09/2012 10:05:24 PM · #7

OK, I'll give it a try. Thanks.

eta: Set everything back to default. Checked the computer system color management (also set to sRGB). It saturates when opening inFocus, and adds contrast when opening deNoise. I guess I'll learn to work around it.

Message edited by author 2012-03-09 22:18:04.

03/10/2012 08:12:26 PM · #8

I've finally figured this out. My older version of PS didn't have raw conversion for my camera, so I used to use other programs to convert to jpeg before opening in PS. Now I'm opening the raw files in PS. I just noticed that when the raw converter was converting it was doing it to aRGB. So that was the problem. Switched that to sRGB and now all is well. LOL! It was driving me nuts though.

03/10/2012 08:30:13 PM · #9

Cool, glad you have it set up and working right. Did you ever think of what the third thing was....that you forgot?

Dave