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09/15/2011 12:55:07 PM · #1 |
Okay I have two questions on completely different subjects but as I said in my title I am two lazy to make two different posts. They are both related in that they have to do with my photography business.
#1. I have a family photo shoot coming up. It will be against a building and in the shade. I am wondering how to get the lighting up so that I can get a sharper image. I don't have enough flash power to cover a whole family, and I don't want to open by aperture too much or the whole family won't be in focus. So what do I do?
#2 I have several friends who would like to buy this print for their husbands den: 
I really don't know the first thing about pricing prints. What do you charge for a print on top of the printing costs? I know what to charge when I do portrait photo shoots but landscape and other "wall art" type prints are a whole other category. |
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09/15/2011 01:49:27 PM · #2 |
| simple just use a long exposure and make sure everyone stays perfectly still. |
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09/15/2011 01:52:35 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
simple just use a long exposure and make sure everyone stays perfectly still. |
Let's hope they don't have kids.
Originally posted by sjhuls:
#2 I have several friends who would like to buy this print for their husbands den: |
So... he's a polygamist? |
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09/15/2011 02:17:05 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
So... he's a polygamist? |
Ha ha! no two wives and 2 husbands. Although we do have some polygamist families around here. The guy from "sister wives", lives about 15 min from where I live. |
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09/15/2011 02:35:14 PM · #5 |
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09/15/2011 02:37:20 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
$350 plus tax. |
or $35 plus tax for the Sister Wives guy. He's probably got enough money issues. |
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09/15/2011 09:33:33 PM · #7 |
For question 1, you either increase ISO, add light, or open aperture. These are your only choices since you can't drop shutter speed much or you'll suffer more problems with sharpness than opening aperture. How you add light is something that has a choice in it. You said you have no additional flash power and it's in the shade. Build a reflector (DIY examples online ABOUND) and use an assistant.
Alternately, if you have lots of PS patience, you could use whatever flash you have to light the scene progressively in separate exposures and combine them in post, but this sounds horrible and tedius to me. |
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09/15/2011 10:39:31 PM · #8 |
Hire some extra lighting for the shoot!
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09/16/2011 04:22:54 AM · #9 |
How many people? How do you envisage setting them up? Two deep, three deep? How many wide? How dark is the shade?
Your 24-105 set @ 30mm and f4 can give a pretty decent DOF depending on your distance and setup.
Also relative will be how big it will be blown up.
Check out your distances etc with the following link
DOF Master
I just put in canon crop camera, 5 meters distance, lens at 30mm and f4 -it would appear from the distance advised that you shouldn't have too much of a problem (again depending on the distance from the person at the front to the person at the back of the setup).
Is your copy of the 24-105 nice and sharp at f4? 30mm should clear up the barrel distortion in that lens. Maybe a bit of flash for fill (again this will depend on your setup). If they are all adults you could shoot from 1/60 but if there are kids involved that won't stay still then you will need to be at least double that and maybe more.
I'm no expert and the above could all be wrong but I'm sure someone will let me know what I have said wrong and I would appreciate the information also.
Maria
400d isn't great for high ISO
Message edited by author 2011-09-16 06:21:56. |
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09/16/2011 06:19:34 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Judi:
Hire some extra lighting for the shoot! |
+1
Success comes down to managing expectations. If you don't have the equipment to deliver what the client expects to receive, either get the necessary equipment (buy, rent, or borrow) or don't do the work. Unless your client understands that you are going to try to do the best you can with what you have, you risk disappointing them.
As to pricing, that's a matter of finding that happy place between how you value your work and what the market will bear. You might be happy giving it away, just knowing that you have a print hanging in someone's den where it is admired by everyone who visits. You might be happier with that and having an extra $500 in your pocket.
I appreciate it when people tell me they like my imagery. It means even more to me when they pay for it because when they're willing to give up their cold, hard cash, I know they really mean it when they say they like it ;-)
Good luck! |
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09/16/2011 09:23:15 AM · #11 |
Thanks all, I am going to do some experimenting in the shade today just to see what I can come up with. I do have some flash power available but it is sort of touchy and sometimes I miss the shot fiddling with it. The photo shoot is about an hour away from where I live and I don't know the area very well. we will be starting the shoot in the morning around 9 am and I will be doing around 6 families for a family reunion. So it may go several hours my light will be changing the whole time and I don't know the area so I am having the person who contacted me scout out some a few nice spots and I will choose out of the best of them. I figured shooting in the shade would be the best so I don't get raccoon eyes. But maybe there is a better solution.
And yes my camera gets horrible noise at anything above 400 ISO and even that is a little too noisy for my taste. |
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