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 08/17/2011 07:52:56 PM · #126
Originally posted by rugman1969:
Originally posted by amsterdamman:
Originally posted by rugman1969:
For example: If Ansel Adams put one of his landscapes in this challenge, would you vote it high because it is a good photo? I wouldn't, because it would not meet the challenge.

I find that a vote of 5 is destructive enough to the end score that I don't go much under unless its one of the major mess of a wtf? image titled "IMG_2905" (still go 1 here).
So, I'd probably give Ansel a 7 if I could stretch the DNMC to reach his title and see the challenge from his image,
and if it was so bad a DNMC like a B&W landscape in a "Pastel Portrait" challenge I'd give him a 4/5 at worst. Those 5's are ribbon killers.
But thats just me.


And that is one of the voting/scoring problems. There is a reason the voting scale is 1-10, and you should use the scale respectively. BUt lets assume they changed the scale to 5-10. Would you then hesitate to vote anyone a 5 because it is the lowest score? See the problem? Before long, with enough voting scale adjustments, the scale would only be 10. Where's the fun in that?
Still never received a comment on the scoring question here. Anybody want to broach this subject> Any response?
 08/17/2011 08:00:05 PM · #127
Originally posted by MargaretN:
I just went through and upped my favorite entries to counteract the harshness of the voting.


I think you people just don't get it...I think these types of responses PUBLICLY condone vote manipulation...even with the thread chatter I can see peoples scores dropping...same old story of late...I just don't understand why people have to open up their mouths during a challenge...let it all go..what will be will be..opinions are just that...and the scores will be what they are at the end...no need to acknowledge publicly out loud and for everyone to hear..that you are manipulating the vote...amazed you are getting away with it...
 08/17/2011 08:01:39 PM · #128
Originally posted by tfarrell23:
Originally posted by MargaretN:
I just went through and upped my favorite entries to counteract the harshness of the voting.


I think you people just don't get it...I think these types of responses PUBLICLY condone vote manipulation...even with the thread chatter I can see peoples scores dropping...same old story of late...I just don't understand why people have to open up their mouths during a challenge...let it all go..what will be will be..opinions are just that...and the scores will be what they are at the end...no need to acknowledge publicly out loud and for everyone to hear..that you are manipulating the vote...amazed you are getting away with it...


If you would win real money by doing well in a challenge, all of these discussions would be so much more worth it.
 08/17/2011 08:04:32 PM · #129
Originally posted by rugman1969:
........Still never received a comment on the scoring question here. Anybody want to broach this subject> Any response?

Similar subject discussed in this thread
 08/17/2011 08:04:38 PM · #130
Originally posted by NiallOTuama:
Originally posted by MargaretN:
I just went through and upped my favorite entries to counteract the harshness of the voting.

you forgot mine I'm afraid to say.

Sorry! :(
 08/17/2011 08:06:46 PM · #131
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by rugman1969:
........Still never received a comment on the scoring question here. Anybody want to broach this subject> Any response?

Similar subject discussed in this thread


Great, but I cannot access the member threads. See the problem?
08/17/2011 08:09:23 PM · #132
Originally posted by rugman1969:
........If you would win real money by doing well in a challenge, all of these discussions would be so much more worth it.

If real money was up for grabs the scoring system would not be based on votes by the participants themselves.
 08/17/2011 08:11:16 PM · #133
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by rugman1969:
........If you would win real money by doing well in a challenge, all of these discussions would be so much more worth it.

If real money was up for grabs the scoring system would not be based on votes by the participants themselves.


Yes, you are definitely right there. But I bet some would cheat their way to vote for themselves somehow, especially if money was involved. Especially since some have found a way to see who's picture they are voting on in a challenge.

Message edited by author 2011-08-17 20:13:18.
 08/17/2011 08:29:39 PM · #134
I'm wondering how our literalist members will deal with the upcoming "Home sweet home" and the DNMC.
Is it a free study? No, its a guided challenge, but the difference between DNMC and DMC is subtle,
and involves at the minimum, interpreting title for context and image for content and then some thought perhaps.
08/17/2011 08:40:10 PM · #135
Originally posted by littlemav:
When I had the 1 vote, 10pts last night, I said lets stop now... but oooooh nooooooo we had to go on!!

Votes: 44
Views: 91
Avg Vote: 6.4773
Comments: 5

Not complaining, since lately I've been at about a 4.splat average!

And who ever gave me that 10.. Come back my friend, bring others!!!!! LOL, Seriously Thanks!!!

Great score! How's it holding up? 5 comments early, that's a good sign.
 08/17/2011 08:40:54 PM · #136
Originally posted by MAK:
Climbing up

Votes: 43
Views: 79
Avg Vote: 5.8140
Comments: 3
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 08/17/11 12:14 pm

Break that 6 mark yet MAK?
 08/17/2011 08:41:37 PM · #137
Originally posted by keegbow:
Votes: 20
Views: 43
Avg Vote: 4.5500
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0

Pretty good for a shoe-horn entry :)

How's the shoehorn holding up? :-)
 08/17/2011 08:42:36 PM · #138
Originally posted by kenskid:
Unless someone posts something lower, it looks like I get the brown...on a well thought out, technically good photo !

Votes: 33
Views: 56
Avg Vote: 4.5455
Comments: 1
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 08/17/11 10:19 am

When's the last time a 4.5xxx was low enough to grab the brown?!
 08/17/2011 08:43:34 PM · #139
Originally posted by Alexkc:
Votes: 16
Views: 32
Avg Vote: 6.1250
Comments: 3

To tell the truth I was expecting much more from this image, but in any case a 6+ is always ok :)

Dang straight a 6+ is "ok"! :-D
 08/17/2011 08:44:43 PM · #140
Originally posted by NiallOTuama:
Votes: 57
Views: 102
Average: 5.6667
Comments: 2
Favourites: 0

Nice to get comments. One suggested I'LLC win :-) unlikely.

Looks like a high view to vote ratio for this challenge. Yes / No?
 08/17/2011 09:01:36 PM · #141
Originally posted by rugman1969:
Originally posted by rugman1969:
Originally posted by amsterdamman:
Originally posted by rugman1969:
For example: If Ansel Adams put one of his landscapes in this challenge, would you vote it high because it is a good photo? I wouldn't, because it would not meet the challenge.

I find that a vote of 5 is destructive enough to the end score that I don't go much under unless its one of the major mess of a wtf? image titled "IMG_2905" (still go 1 here).
So, I'd probably give Ansel a 7 if I could stretch the DNMC to reach his title and see the challenge from his image,
and if it was so bad a DNMC like a B&W landscape in a "Pastel Portrait" challenge I'd give him a 4/5 at worst. Those 5's are ribbon killers.
But thats just me.


And that is one of the voting/scoring problems. There is a reason the voting scale is 1-10, and you should use the scale respectively. BUt lets assume they changed the scale to 5-10. Would you then hesitate to vote anyone a 5 because it is the lowest score? See the problem? Before long, with enough voting scale adjustments, the scale would only be 10. Where's the fun in that?
Still never received a comment on the scoring question here. Anybody want to broach this subject> Any response?


Just because the scoring is from 1-10, doesn't mean that you have to use all the numbers. If all of the photos in a challenge are spectacular, I'm not going to give the: "slightly less than spectacular, but still incredibly awesome" photo a 1, simply because a 1 is in the scale.

A 5 to me is a photo that uncle joe takes at the family reunion, and the score goes up and down from there. I rarely give 1s, 2s and 3s, simply because I think that the majority of the photos on dpc are better than the averages uncle joe's photos. If there's something truly atrocious, I'll use it. But for the most part, the bad photos are simply "meh" not atrocious.
 08/17/2011 09:13:33 PM · #142
Originally posted by vawendy:
.......A 5 to me is a photo that uncle joe takes at the family reunion, and the score goes up and down from there. I rarely give 1s, 2s and 3s, simply because I think that the majority of the photos on dpc are better than the averages uncle joe's photos. If there's something truly atrocious, I'll use it. But for the most part, the bad photos are simply "meh" not atrocious.


Obviously Joe is not your favorite uncle.
 08/17/2011 09:13:39 PM · #143



Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by kenskid:
Unless someone posts something lower, it looks like I get the brown...on a well thought out, technically good photo !

Votes: 33
Views: 56
Avg Vote: 4.5455
Comments: 1
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 08/17/11 10:19 am

When's the last time a 4.5xxx was low enough to grab the brown?!
08/17/2011 09:22:42 PM · #144
Originally posted by kenskid:


Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by kenskid:
Unless someone posts something lower, it looks like I get the brown...on a well thought out, technically good photo !

Votes: 33
Views: 56
Avg Vote: 4.5455
Comments: 1
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 08/17/11 10:19 am

When's the last time a 4.5xxx was low enough to grab the brown?!

Not that long ago, eh? Ummm...sorry to hear that. :-?
 08/17/2011 09:34:07 PM · #145
Well, I honestly thought my entry would be a 6+ and not barely hanging on to a 5. It's a really nice picture (not a snapshot) and NOT a shoehorn in my opinion. I had it all planned out from the beginning. It takes place at a very specific time of day and I think that, while it's not a clock, watch or something old, it definitely shows a certain time. It certainly doesn't call for the extremely rude & sarcastic comments I'm getting (mixed in with a few nice ones).

I feel that sometimes creativity is really discouraged on this site and as a result, I've gone back to wondering why I even bothered to pay for a 2nd year. I removed my home entry because it's not a picture of my actual home and from now on I'll only enter pictures in challenges that are very specific (and maybe not even then).

This site would be really great if it weren't for the voters.
08/17/2011 09:43:49 PM · #146
Originally posted by Tammster:

This site would be really great if it weren't for the voters.


I think that's the definition of a side challenge : )
 08/17/2011 09:45:52 PM · #147
Originally posted by geinafets:
Originally posted by Tammster:

This site would be really great if it weren't for the voters.


I think that's the definition of a side challenge : )


Yeah, the people are really great here, until they turn into voters.
 08/17/2011 09:50:04 PM · #148
Time III
Votes: 54
Views: 97
Avg Vote: 3.5741
Comments: 3
08/17/2011 10:02:43 PM · #149
Originally posted by rugman1969:
Originally posted by TheDruid:
Originally posted by rugman1969:
Originally posted by mefnj:
Originally posted by rugman1969:
The title doesn't make the challenge, the photo does. the title only describes what you are photographing, for the most part.


i have to disagree somewhat... especially for this challenge, where the concept of "TIME" is abstract and intangible, the title may be essential to allowing the viewer to "get it". also, in general, i think titles are very important to conveying the meaning of any art and move it beyond the "ooo, look, pretty colors" eye-candy level

-mefnj


My opinion is if you want to score well, make sure the photo is good enough to show the voter where you are coming from. If it fits the challenge, then I see no reason why someone would vote yours low.
Mine, is to shoot what people like here, then it will score well.


And thats a shame you have to do that to score well.
You are not the brightest light are you. You have to put comments in the context of the conversation. To say it again. If you want to receive high votes here, you have to shoot what they like here.
 08/17/2011 10:06:37 PM · #150
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by kenskid:
Unless someone posts something lower, it looks like I get the brown...on a well thought out, technically good photo !

Votes: 33
Views: 56
Avg Vote: 4.5455
Comments: 1
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 08/17/11 10:19 am

When's the last time a 4.5xxx was low enough to grab the brown?!
lols, Avg Vote: 3.6610, ah ha haaaaa
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