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08/10/2011 01:53:36 PM · #1

Everybody likes a story of victory wrenched from the grasp of tragedy. Thought I'd pass it on from the front page of the Seattle Times. The very first picture is also very well done and quite powerful. This brought tears to my eyes. A wonderful job done by the rescue team when all hope was lost.

Boy brought back to life after drowning in the ocean

dswann

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08/10/2011 01:58:50 PM · #2

That is amazing.

GeneralE

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08/10/2011 02:01:34 PM · #3

Great story and pictures. I guess that's why they teach you in CPR class to keep going until you can't any more, you just never know ... thanks for posting.

bergiekat

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08/10/2011 02:03:23 PM · #4

Wow! It is refreshing to hear some GOOD things in the news these days. That young man is very lucky!!
Here is another, but no pictures.

Thanks for posting this, Doc!

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08/10/2011 02:12:33 PM · #5

Originally posted by bergiekat:

Wow! It is refreshing to hear some GOOD things in the news these days. That young man is very lucky!!
Here is another, but no pictures.

Thanks for posting this, Doc!

Oooh, that one is also awesome! Thank you for posting as well!

Spork99

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08/10/2011 02:49:57 PM · #6

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Great story and pictures. I guess that's why they teach you in CPR class to keep going until you can't any more, you just never know ... thanks for posting.

The longest I know that someone has performed CPR and had the victim recover was 45 minutes...if you've ever taken CPR, you know how hard it is and the idea of doing it for 45 minutes...wow.

GeneralE

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08/10/2011 03:39:20 PM · #7

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by GeneralE:
Great story and pictures. I guess that's why they teach you in CPR class to keep going until you can't any more, you just never know ... thanks for posting.

The longest I know that someone has performed CPR and had the victim recover was 45 minutes...if you've ever taken CPR, you know how hard it is and the idea of doing it for 45 minutes...wow.

That's about what I've heard too ... a very long time ago I took an Instructor course, and I think they made us work on one of the mannekins for about three minutes or so -- even that was enough to work up a sweat.

BTW: If you ever see CPR on a TV show, they are almost for sure doing it incorrectly -- doing it correctly risks breaking ribs and is very hard to mimic convincingly.

FWIW Seattle was one of the first cities to try a program of training a large proportion of the population in basic CPR, when it was found that having the procedure performed -- even incorrectly -- by a bystander improved the victim's chance for survival significantly, versus waiting for trained paramedics to arrive.

Nowadays many pubic places have AEDs (Automatic Electronic Defibrillators) posted like fire extinguishers; they are designed for the lay public to use in cases of sudden cardiac arrest.

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08/10/2011 04:19:29 PM · #8

Interesting.

- 6 of the commenters recognized that it was the rescue team's efforts that saved the boy
- 25 of the commenters were of the belief that it was prayer/god/'god's hand'/'god's amazing power' etc. that saved the boy.

Spork99

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08/10/2011 04:23:54 PM · #9

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by GeneralE:
Great story and pictures. I guess that's why they teach you in CPR class to keep going until you can't any more, you just never know ... thanks for posting.

The longest I know that someone has performed CPR and had the victim recover was 45 minutes...if you've ever taken CPR, you know how hard it is and the idea of doing it for 45 minutes...wow.

That's about what I've heard too ... a very long time ago I took an Instructor course, and I think they made us work on one of the mannekins for about three minutes or so -- even that was enough to work up a sweat.

BTW: If you ever see CPR on a TV show, they are almost for sure doing it incorrectly -- doing it correctly risks breaking ribs and is very hard to mimic convincingly.

FWIW Seattle was one of the first cities to try a program of training a large proportion of the population in basic CPR, when it was found that having the procedure performed -- even incorrectly -- by a bystander improved the victim's chance for survival significantly, versus waiting for trained paramedics to arrive.

Nowadays many pubic places have AEDs (Automatic Electronic Defibrillators) posted like fire extinguishers; they are designed for the lay public to use in cases of sudden cardiac arrest.

The AEDs are designed to be easy to use, but not necessarily for the totally clueless. Training in the use of an AED is typically part of CPR certification.

Also, be aware that some programs have eliminated the "mouth to mouth" part of CPR while the Red Cross still includes it in their training though they recommend using a barrier to avoid contact with bodily fluids.

Cory

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08/10/2011 04:30:10 PM · #10

Originally posted by JH:

This is one of the things I HATE about religion... No thanks for those who did something... Only thanks to an imaginary deity.. Shame. Makes me not want to help someone who will thank "God" for my efforts..

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08/10/2011 04:30:13 PM · #11

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Nowadays many pubic places have AEDs (Automatic Electronic Defibrillators) posted like fire extinguishers;

I just checked, I don't seem to have one. :(

ahhhh..... PUBLIC places!

KristinaG

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08/10/2011 04:36:16 PM · #12

Originally posted by Spork99:

While taking a CPR class, my instructor told us of a case where they performed CPR successfully for three hours. A man had collapsed due to a heart attack on a row boat in the middle of a lake, and the three other passengers performed CPR for a long time before help finally came. When the rescue crew finally arrived, they also had to help the three healthy individuals who were practically collapsing with exhaustion.
I am not positive if the story is true, but is simply amazing.

I loved reading this news story. Brought tears to my eyes.

Leo

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08/10/2011 04:42:27 PM · #13

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by JH:
Interesting.

- 6 of the commenters recognized that it was the rescue team's efforts that saved the boy
- 25 of the commenters were of the belief that it was prayer/god/'god's hand'/'god's amazing power' etc. that saved the boy.

This is one of the things I HATE about religion... No thanks for those who did something... Only thanks to an imaginary deity.. Shame. Makes me not want to help someone who will thank "God" for my efforts..

I hear where you're coming from, but long ago I learned to do things not for the praise of others, but because its the right thing to do... just saying.

Peace

Cory

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08/10/2011 04:47:23 PM · #14

Originally posted by The_Tourist:

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by JH:
Interesting.

- 6 of the commenters recognized that it was the rescue team's efforts that saved the boy
- 25 of the commenters were of the belief that it was prayer/god/'god's hand'/'god's amazing power' etc. that saved the boy.

This is one of the things I HATE about religion... No thanks for those who did something... Only thanks to an imaginary deity.. Shame. Makes me not want to help someone who will thank "God" for my efforts..

I hear where you're coming from, but long ago I learned to do things not for the praise of others, but because its the right thing to do... just saying.

Peace

I don't disagree with your premise... But I also learned long ago not to help those who don't appreciate it.

Simms

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08/10/2011 04:55:22 PM · #15

Originally posted by Cory:

Agree totally. When Mum was ill earlier this year, her local vicar (she was very into her church) came along to hospital and we started talking and he said "Life can be cruel sometimes and there is no reason why the best people go first - but I guess if she gets better then it would be a miracle.."

Thats right matey, so if she dies then thats the way the cookie crumbles, but if she survives then its God that saved her..

Fucking idiot.

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08/10/2011 05:03:45 PM · #16

Really, people? A story with a happy ending stirs up...bitterness and bile? Come on! Two parents were staring at their dead son lying on the beach and two days later they were able to talk with him. I don't care what you believe or don't, rejoice in the moment!!! To quote the well known song, the boy was lost but now is FOUND!

TheDruid

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08/10/2011 05:05:42 PM · #17

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Good luck with that ;-)

RayEthier

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08/10/2011 05:20:59 PM · #18

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

... To quote the well known song, the boy was lost but now is FOUND!

You could always quote Johnny 5... "I'm alive, I'm alive.

On a serious note, congrats to the parents who I am certain are absolutely thrilled with the outcome.

Ray

Leo

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08/10/2011 05:25:36 PM · #19

I'm glad the kid is okay. Great photojournalism pics to boot.

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08/10/2011 05:33:06 PM · #20

Originally posted by The_Tourist:

I'm glad the kid is okay. Great photojournalism pics to boot.

I agree. The pic is likely to be the shot of this PJ's career. I don't know if I'm projecting, but I see the dejection on the rescuer's face. He looks to be on the verge of tears himself.

bergiekat

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08/10/2011 05:41:18 PM · #21

Definitely a defining shot!!

dtremain

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08/10/2011 05:55:10 PM · #22

What do you expect from a religious youth group, their parents, and grandparents? If you've ever come close to losing your child, you have a great deal of empathy for their gratefulness and thankfulness - attitudes that, in my opinion, are far too lacking these days. There were no negative comments about; no lack of appreciation for those who did their best, using the best skills and tools at hand to save the young man's life. If you know these folks, you would know that their thanks to God includes the people who worked so hard to save the young man. Thanks? Appreciation? Maybe even a bit of awe for the medical personnel and others involved? Yes!
It is a terrible thing to stand helpless, scanning the water's surface, hoping to catch a glimpse of the person that went under and has taken far too long in coming back up. Even worse, seeing your son's limp and unmoving body being hauled from the water. Dreading the news that you're almost certain has to come. Watching the paramedics work on him with no sign of response. The dread of the worst, with no signs of hope. A medically-induced coma with more waiting, and no idea of whether just his body will survive, or if your son will return to you, whole. They still don't know. Yes, he's improving, but he was dead for a significant amount of time.
I don't know where you turn in times like that if you have rejected the idea that there is a God. How do you sit and wait, not knowing the outcome? Even better, how do you keep going day after day, year after year, when things don't get any better? How do you face the things in life that are too big for you to fix? Forget that. That are too big to bear?
Maybe your life is different, but I've experienced enough to convince me that I am not in control of my world - that there are things I can't fix, things I can't even imagine, powers that I don't understand, patterns that I'm not aware of, sudden changes over which I have no control. I've learned that things I would reject as bad are actually good - and good for me, no matter how inconvenient or painful. And that there are things I would dismiss as being not that bad that are a terrible trap - devastating me and those around me.
As far as this being a miracle? Yes! Just because we now have the knowledge, skill, and tools to revive this one young man - does that make it less of a miracle? Almost anyone who lived a century or two ago would see it as a miracle, no matter how it was accomplished. We dismiss it because we know a bit about what was done and how it "worked". Or worse, we take credit for it - claiming the result was because of our intelligence, knowledge and skills. We had no choice in our time of birth, nor place. Had we been born earlier in history, or in a location less familiar with the techniques used, or in a location without the ability to afford the tools (jet skis, helicopters, ability to put someone into a coma and then bring them out of it)???
As I said earlier, and I am as guilty as any other, we need to have and show more thankfulness and gratitude for what we have. Don't know about you, but I take far too much for granted.

RayEthier

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08/10/2011 06:24:36 PM · #23

Originally posted by dtremain:

...I don't know where you turn in times like that if you have rejected the idea that there is a God.

Well...some of us deal with the results as they transpire, with the help and solace of friends and family... and leave the thought of divine intervention to those who believe.

Rather simple actually.

Ray

Lydia

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08/10/2011 06:39:01 PM · #24

Wow! Those are two great stories! The people who risked their lives for another's... I am in awe... and I'm sure the parents are... well... much more than appreciative.

It's amazing to me... I doubt whether anybody who's been underwater for that long could come out of an induced coma speaking whole sentences two days later without some kind of help that's not human.

But... that's just me. Everyone will have to figure all of that out for themselves.

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