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07/22/2004 01:06:17 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by MinAlex:
But conservatives are basicly dishonest, greed being there guiding principle. |
...But liberals flat out lie and stupidity seems to be their guiding principle. |
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07/22/2004 01:29:56 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by thelsel:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Everyone knows he is a bad guy (that the US put in power). |
The US put in power?
His second cousin, Ahmed Hassan Bakr, became president, and Saddam was elected vice president on Nov. 9, 1969. On July 16, 1979, Saddam forced Bakr to resign and appointed himself president of Iraq and commander-in-chief of the military. |
Accually..
//www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0420-05.htm
//www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/4/10/205859.shtml
//www.lewrockwell.com/north/north170.html
//www.newsbatch.com/iraq.htm
//www.cnn.com/US/9609/19/iraq.cia/
//www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/51/217.html
Its amazing what you can find with a quick google search :) |
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07/22/2004 03:02:38 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Its amazing what you can find with a quick google search :) |
...or is it what the CIA wants you to find? |
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07/22/2004 12:40:53 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by thelsel:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Its amazing what you can find with a quick google search :) |
...or is it what the CIA wants you to find? |
Nice dodge. But I doubt the CIA wants me to know Saddam was the US's middle east puppet for many years. |
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07/22/2004 07:28:00 PM · #30 |
The newsbatch link is interesting in that it mentions the hundreds of thousands of Iranians killed by saddam during THAT war plus the hundreds of thousands of Iraquis who were also killed. Bush would never be able to catch up to saddam even if he wanted to. |
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07/22/2004 07:34:33 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by frychikn:
The newsbatch link is interesting in that it mentions the hundreds of thousands of Iranians killed by saddam during THAT war plus the hundreds of thousands of Iraquis who were also killed. Bush would never be able to catch up to saddam even if he wanted to. |
Again, you are missing the point. |
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07/22/2004 10:26:41 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Originally posted by frychikn:
The newsbatch link is interesting in that it mentions the hundreds of thousands of Iranians killed by saddam during THAT war plus the hundreds of thousands of Iraquis who were also killed. Bush would never be able to catch up to saddam even if he wanted to. |
Again, you are missing the point. |
No, I am not. One of your links seems to have disproven the title of your thread. Sorry. |
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07/22/2004 10:45:53 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by frychikn:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Originally posted by frychikn:
The newsbatch link is interesting in that it mentions the hundreds of thousands of Iranians killed by saddam during THAT war plus the hundreds of thousands of Iraquis who were also killed. Bush would never be able to catch up to saddam even if he wanted to. |
Again, you are missing the point. |
No, I am not. One of your links seems to have disproven the title of your thread. Sorry. |
Please post what your talking about as I see no such thing. Also, there is nothing to "disprove" from my thread title, as it is a question. |
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07/22/2004 11:14:37 PM · #34 |
I would like to see more proof of this....sence this is what your point was.....
"It comes amid inflation from an estimate by Human Rights Watch in May 2003 of 290,000 'missing' to the latest claims by the Iraqi Prime Minister, Iyad Allawi, that one million are missing."
I just find the figures very hard to believe.....and please dont use some left wing publication no one has ever heard of...
I just find the numbers inflated...I am not here to fight...but are the even close to correct?
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07/23/2004 12:05:29 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by Riggs:
I would like to see more proof of this....sence this is what your point was.....
"It comes amid inflation from an estimate by Human Rights Watch in May 2003 of 290,000 'missing' to the latest claims by the Iraqi Prime Minister, Iyad Allawi, that one million are missing."
I just find the figures very hard to believe.....and please dont use some left wing publication no one has ever heard of...
I just find the numbers inflated...I am not here to fight...but are the even close to correct? |
Post your own numbers then, if you can find a more reputable source im all ears. |
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07/23/2004 08:42:04 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Originally posted by frychikn:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Originally posted by frychikn:
The newsbatch link is interesting in that it mentions the hundreds of thousands of Iranians killed by saddam during THAT war plus the hundreds of thousands of Iraquis who were also killed. Bush would never be able to catch up to saddam even if he wanted to. |
Again, you are missing the point. |
No, I am not. One of your links seems to have disproven the title of your thread. Sorry. |
Please post what your talking about as I see no such thing. Also, there is nothing to "disprove" from my thread title, as it is a question. |
I don't need to post anything; you already have. How thoroughly do you read your own links?
Let me rephrase my one statement; one of your links (the Newsbatch link) has answered the question which is the title of your thread. It "disproves" your wishful thinking. |
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07/23/2004 04:14:06 PM · #37 |
Iraq Body Count
11,252 minimum |
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07/23/2004 04:24:08 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by frychikn:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Originally posted by frychikn:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Originally posted by frychikn:
The newsbatch link is interesting in that it mentions the hundreds of thousands of Iranians killed by saddam during THAT war plus the hundreds of thousands of Iraquis who were also killed. Bush would never be able to catch up to saddam even if he wanted to. |
Again, you are missing the point. |
No, I am not. One of your links seems to have disproven the title of your thread. Sorry. |
Please post what your talking about as I see no such thing. Also, there is nothing to "disprove" from my thread title, as it is a question. |
I don't need to post anything; you already have. How thoroughly do you read your own links?
Let me rephrase my one statement; one of your links (the Newsbatch link) has answered the question which is the title of your thread. It "disproves" your wishful thinking. |
Read it again, it does not disprove anything I have said. |
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07/24/2004 01:08:20 AM · #39 |
Wow, that's an interesting database. But it doesn't have a column for which side perpetrated the deaths. I assume all of the car bombs, truck bombs, roadside bombs, rocket-propelled grenades, and drownings were probably perpetrated by someone other then the US military. Then you have all those gunfire deaths, but it fails to say who was doing the shooting. Then of course there's the "target" column that lists things like Iraqi police, US troops, security forces and Baath party members, which seem a little out of place in a "civilian deaths" database. But then again the whole thing is so vague, who really knows. |
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07/24/2004 09:14:16 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by thelsel:
Wow, that's an interesting database. But it doesn't have a column for which side perpetrated the deaths. I assume all of the car bombs, truck bombs, roadside bombs, rocket-propelled grenades, and drownings were probably perpetrated by someone other then the US military. Then you have all those gunfire deaths, but it fails to say who was doing the shooting. Then of course there's the "target" column that lists things like Iraqi police, US troops, security forces and Baath party members, which seem a little out of place in a "civilian deaths" database. But then again the whole thing is so vague, who really knows. |
This the the explanation on the top of the data base:
"This database includes up to 7,350 deaths which resulted from coalition military action during the "major-combat" phase prior to May 1st 2003. In the current occupation phase the database includes all deaths which the Occupying Authority has a binding responsibility to prevent under the Geneva Conventions and Hague Regulations. This includes civilian deaths resulting from the breakdown in law and order, and deaths due to inadequate health care or sanitation." |
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07/24/2004 10:17:44 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by emorgan49:
Originally posted by thelsel:
[quote=emorgan49] Iraq Body Count
11,252 minimum |
........ This includes civilian deaths resulting from the breakdown in law and order, and deaths due to inadequate health care or sanitation." |
We in America would have similar figures, if not much higher. Almost anything can be proved or disproved with the same "facts". |
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