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03/29/2011 04:48:07 AM · #26 |
Leo, you really don't do yourself, or DPC, any favours with these hate filled attempts at rabble rousing towards 1X. They are pretty baffling at the least and, when you start on the personal attacks, quite offensive. Particularly as some 1X moderators are heavily active on DPC. Really, you're 46 years old! Try and have a bit of dignity and stop acting like an attention seeking teenager. |
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03/29/2011 06:26:48 AM · #27 |
1x choose what they choose, it's their site, it's their vision. I on occasion submit some of my best stuff there, they reject most of it. All that tells me is that I either it didn't match their vision, or it wasn't up to their standards (more likely), no reason to hate them.
In fact on the odd occasion that I got one published, I was delighted, far more so than getting a ribbon here, which shows how high a regard I hold 1x, and full circle, that's down to their screening process and the vision they have for the site. |
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03/29/2011 07:00:26 AM · #28 |
Leo,
It's OK to be angry with 1x, after all, it does seem that their approval methods are somewhat arbitrary. I, for one, have only had 1 image accepted by them. However, my 1 image was magnificent. My others weren't, and I knew it before I submitted them. I love photography because it pushes me to be better. I like DPC and 1x because it reminds me that I can be better, and that's what you need to take away from your most recent rejection. It's a technically great photograph, but what does it say? How does it make you feel? How could you have shot it differently? You should think about these things, put them in your toolbox and keep shooting. I don't think the answer is to start a hate-blog about 1x.
Plus, any real artist never listened to their critics.
Regards,
Rob |
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03/29/2011 09:47:09 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by marnet: Originally posted by jmsetzler: Originally posted by marnet: I have looked at your profile and got shocked by this statistics:
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# Received: 3,421
# Helpful: 68 |
And this means what in terms of this thread? |
Credibility in making a comment |
Yuh... you are right. I'm definitely not qualified. Sorry for the idiotic intrusion I have made.
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03/29/2011 01:17:59 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler: Originally posted by marnet: Originally posted by jmsetzler: Originally posted by marnet: I have looked at your profile and got shocked by this statistics:
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# Received: 3,421
# Helpful: 68 |
And this means what in terms of this thread? |
Credibility in making a comment |
Yuh... you are right. I'm definitely not qualified. Sorry for the idiotic intrusion I have made. |
John you have no idea how I wanted to respond to their comments towards you last night. But I figured you were going to respond in your normal manner and I should keep my big mouth shut. And people wonder why this site loses respected members. |
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03/29/2011 01:19:25 PM · #31 |
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03/29/2011 01:36:49 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Yuh... you are right. I'm definitely not qualified. Sorry for the idiotic intrusion I have made. |
I just became your 489th admirer... shows how idiotic I think your intrusion here is :) |
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03/29/2011 01:40:37 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by Spork99: 1X...meh. |
When I read this I added a letter to it and had to laugh. you wrote 1X...meh and I read 1X...meth!
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03/29/2011 03:35:29 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by MattO: John you have no idea how I wanted to respond to their comments towards you last night. But I figured you were going to respond in your normal manner and I should keep my big mouth shut. And people wonder why this site loses respected members. |
don't lump us all together, i was refuting the logic :) |
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03/29/2011 04:22:16 PM · #35 |
I think Leo and his problem with 1x got lost completely in this thread.
And I did not know John is a local DPC icon and therefore allowed to make statements that come across as patronizing.
Oh, well, I am still new here with little knowledge of DPC history and all complex relationships between members.
PS John's stats shocked me (so few helpful comments received and zero fav photographers) but I suspect there is some historical reason for it.
Message edited by author 2011-03-29 16:26:31. |
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03/29/2011 04:45:36 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by marnet: I think Leo and his problem with 1x got lost completely in this thread.
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Lol, yep because you are the one that derailed it by accusing jmsetzler about his "Comment helpful" which had nothing to do with this topic. That was the first off topic post, and so off base that other people felt that they had to weigh in.
Message edited by author 2011-03-29 17:04:52. |
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03/29/2011 04:50:21 PM · #37 |
double post. my bad
Message edited by author 2011-03-29 17:03:08. |
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03/29/2011 04:54:56 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by marnet: I have looked at your profile and got shocked by this statistics:
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# Received: 3,421
# Helpful: 68 |
Just a FYI, the vast majority of those comments would have been made/received before the 'mark as helpful' feature was added, so don't read *too* much into it :)
Message edited by author 2011-03-29 16:55:04.
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03/29/2011 05:04:16 PM · #39 |
Sigh, I am really sorry. My internet is being funky.
Please delete
Message edited by author 2011-03-29 17:05:26. |
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03/29/2011 05:08:21 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Manic: Just a FYI, the vast majority of those comments would have been made/received before the 'mark as helpful' feature was added, so don't read *too* much into it :) |
Yeah? Then explain *this* Mr High-and-Mighty-My-Photos-Are-So-Good-I'm-Not-Viewing-Anyone-Else's
Total Image Views: 75,025
Total Images Viewed: 3,464 |
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03/29/2011 05:15:36 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by JH: Originally posted by Manic: Just a FYI, the vast majority of those comments would have been made/received before the 'mark as helpful' feature was added, so don't read *too* much into it :) |
Yeah? Then explain *this* Mr High-and-Mighty-My-Photos-Are-So-Good-I'm-Not-Viewing-Anyone-Else's
Total Image Views: 75,025
Total Images Viewed: 3,464 |
I guess too busy taking them :)
I have noticed that a few minutes after my post Helpful jumped from 68 to 115 so I guess John did take it to his heart :)
Anyway, I am off this thread. I like 1x photos and would like to get published there. Sorry Leo.
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03/29/2011 05:16:30 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by marnet: PS John's stats shocked me (so few helpful comments received and zero fav photographers) but I suspect there is some historical reason for it. |
One reason may be that John was an active submitter in the very early days of DPC (before myself, even) and not so much since, and in those days the "Helpful" check box did not exist. I, too, have not gone back over a couple of thousand comments made years ago just to mark the check box and make my stats look better.
Perhaps your suspicion about a "historical reason" could have been more useful had you entertained it and afforded it a greater degree of consideration before making you original comment. |
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03/29/2011 05:48:20 PM · #43 |
I'm pretty sure Setzler left the site a while ago, and asked that his account be purged. Subsequently he returned, but with a less-active participation level. His challenge entries, of course, remained in place, and thus his views-received would remain high. But his views-given (and a lot of other stats) would have been wiped out. So I wouldn't read much into these numbers. I know that back in the day he was a prolific commenter, an active and highly-respected member.
R. |
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03/29/2011 07:35:32 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music: I'm pretty sure Setzler left the site a while ago, and asked that his account be purged. Subsequently he returned, but with a less-active participation level. His challenge entries, of course, remained in place, and thus his views-received would remain high. But his views-given (and a lot of other stats) would have been wiped out. So I wouldn't read much into these numbers. I know that back in the day he was a prolific commenter, an active and highly-respected member.
R. |
And a really nice guy too! |
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03/29/2011 07:39:41 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by smardaz: Originally posted by marnet: How many would you have as helpful yourself?
PS I just checked, your stats:
# Received: 2,764
# Helpful: 2,670
PS2 To me it says: "I appreciate the time people took to look at my images. Therefore I marked them as helpful. It is not beyond me to do that." |
I don't want Leo's thread to get off track but I mark comments mostly to let people know I read them. That does not mean I think everyone should.
One of my favs njsabs only has about a 1/4 of hers marked as helpful, I don't know why but I don't think anyone would impute bad motives to her or disregard a comment she made. |
Because I forget to mark them helpful almost all the time. Doh.......I sometimes think I have early short term memory loss. Seriously.
Message edited by author 2011-03-29 19:40:03. |
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03/29/2011 08:01:14 PM · #46 |
This thread is not about me. It's about the original posters rant against 1x. I just think it's poor manners and sportsmanship to blast a site of respected photographers like 1x simply because YOUR art is rejected by them. If you want a platform, then you should make one of your own if you aren't accepted by the others. It's easy enough to do.
I have an account at 1x just so I can go look at the stuff. The artists there are phenomenal... no doubt about that. They are a highly talented bunch and they want to pick and choose what gets displayed along with their work, which is an outstanding idea. The type of work I like to do doesn't fit into that type of work so I never try to submit to it. I don't even know if I COULD create anything that would be worthy of that site. I would never ever hold it against them for rejecting me if I did try though. I would root them on and wish them well and maybe let it inspire me to study and understand what they do there...
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03/29/2011 08:11:09 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler: This thread is not about me. It's about the original posters rant against 1x. I just think it's poor manners and sportsmanship to blast a site of respected photographers like 1x simply because YOUR art is rejected by them. If you want a platform, then you should make one of your own if you aren't accepted by the others. It's easy enough to do.
I have an account at 1x just so I can go look at the stuff. The artists there are phenomenal... no doubt about that. They are a highly talented bunch and they want to pick and choose what gets displayed along with their work, which is an outstanding idea. The type of work I like to do doesn't fit into that type of work so I never try to submit to it. I don't even know if I COULD create anything that would be worthy of that site. I would never ever hold it against them for rejecting me if I did try though. I would root them on and wish them well and maybe let it inspire me to study and understand what they do there... |
it don't bother me, i kinda liken it to having covenants in a housing developement, no one wants property values to go down cuz one guy doesn't want to mow his lawn and pull weeds |
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03/29/2011 08:12:42 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by ursula:
And a really nice guy too! |
Well I agree with Robert, but "nice" might be taking things a bit far. |
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03/29/2011 08:15:19 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
1x sucks to the bone! |
Does it suck because the art there sucks? The people? Or because they rejected you? If it sucks, why do you want to be a part of it? Just go ahead and admit your jealousy and then this discussion will be over :)
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03/29/2011 08:18:15 PM · #50 |
Me and a few of my friends often laugh when we look at some of the rejects. We mainly laugh when the rejects are EQUAL to what is on the site....at least in our opinion.
I once had a discussion with someone in a thread about really good shots being rejected. We discussed several landscapes and portraits that made it and that did not make it. He said that the rejects did not "tell a story" or "have a point". Imagine the surprise when I sent him photos like this and asked him to tell me "what the story is" !!
Oh well....anyway, several months ago I decided to register the name 1xrejects.com . I was hoping to one day fill it with rejects....good and bad...in my or my appointees (people that know more than me) opinions of course. The only downside is how do I know if it is really a reject from 1x ?
The link to www.1xrejects.com currently points to a blank Smugmug page. However, if anyone has any ideas about a possible site, I can point the address elsewhere in a few hours time.
Edit...Bastards....This was just rejected.
KS
Message edited by author 2011-03-29 20:23:09. |
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