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03/23/2011 12:12:53 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
It's interesting (or maybe not) that people we consider masters have genres they are clearly masterful at and genres they seem to be quite mundane in. In looking at the original link way above we can see that Weston was at his best shooting Nudes or other things (like veggies) where the contours shape the light in dynamic ways. But when we move over to "landscape, clouds, etc" it really becomes unimpressive and almost experimental (and not in a good way). Personally I'd feel taken advantage of if I spent $4,000 for a cloud in the sky versus $15,000 for one of his nudes.
This isn't a knock against him, but rather just an understanding that not every photograph taken by a celebrated photographer is worthy of celebration. |
I appreciate the sense of study and form even in the non-celebrity photos as a collection of a life's work. The collection creates a continuity as opposed to a flash in the pan piece of dramatic art...
Well, that's my two cents anyways...;-) |
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03/23/2011 12:13:35 PM · #27 |
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03/23/2011 01:05:49 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by klkitchens:
I just hope this doesn't become a mostly nude challenge... |
And I hope the adults participating who don't like nudes are mature enough not to vote 1 every time they see a naked human body. |
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03/23/2011 01:09:08 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
In looking at the original link way above we can see that Weston was at his best shooting Nudes or other things (like veggies) where the contours shape the light in dynamic ways. But when we move over to "landscape, clouds, etc" it really becomes unimpressive and almost experimental (and not in a good way). |
Maybe, but even within the genre he excelled at, there are less than stellar examples. I think form and contrast is really what he's about. His photos of a bedpan are an attempt to get describe form, and it's less than successful. I think the full catalogue of an artist is going to include less-than-perfect examples. Even my beloved Tolkien wrote "Smith of Wooton-Major" after all. |
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03/23/2011 01:15:03 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by klkitchens:
I just hope this doesn't become a mostly nude challenge... |
And I hope the adults participating who don't like nudes are mature enough not to vote 1 every time they see a naked human body. |
And I wish the adults who run this site were mature enough to block viewing of adult content in respect to the preference setting.
But wishes don't always come true.
That said, I ignore nude challenges and fortunately the site filter DOES work on the results page. It's just a error in judgement they never want to fix. But if I bring up the thumbnails (at home since it makes the site NSFW) for voting and there are a large number of nudes, then I will just refrain from voting in the challenge.
And it's not a matter of maturity not liking to see other people naked. It's a matter of propriety and actually being mature not to want to do such things. |
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03/23/2011 01:41:26 PM · #31 |
oh -- come on!! He even has the old fashioned woodies!!
rubber dummies
but no birds?
I mean, really! :D
Message edited by author 2011-03-23 13:48:07. |
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03/23/2011 01:43:57 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
oh -- come on!! He even has the old fashioned woodies!!
rubber dummies
but no birds?
I mean, really! |
Are those called rubbies? Noun or verb? :) |
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03/23/2011 02:29:46 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
but no birds?
I mean, really! :D |
Ever try to shoot birds with an 8x10 view camera? Jejeje�
R. |
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03/23/2011 03:19:51 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by vawendy:
but no birds?
I mean, really! :D |
Ever try to shoot birds with an 8x10 view camera? Jejeje�
R. |
Alive or dead? ;) |
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03/23/2011 03:34:14 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Maybe, but even within the genre he excelled at, there are less than stellar examples. I think form and contrast is really what he's about. His photos of a bedpan are an attempt to get describe form, and it's less than successful. I think the full catalogue of an artist is going to include less-than-perfect examples. Even my beloved Tolkien wrote "Smith of Wooton-Major" after all. |
Its pretty tough to look at his work on screen having seen it on museum walls. Some artist translate better to pixels than others.In high school I remember being blown away by this simple image of a toilet. The subtleties and graceful tones he wrung out of a cheap Mexican plumbing fixture amazed me. Looking at it on screen, it is as plain as a turnip. So if you don't know what he looks like in print, don't finish your judgment of his work until you see some of it as he produced it, without the scanning power of the UofA and the rich tonalities of a lap top screen getting in the way.
Message edited by author 2011-03-23 15:37:31. |
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03/23/2011 03:53:19 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by klkitchens:
Not this guy... |
of course not... :) that's Michael Weston. I think he used to be a spy. |
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03/23/2011 04:12:58 PM · #37 |
| I am kind of excited about these "in the style of" challenges. I know there is a time and place when I will know my own style but in the meantime I think it is great to try to recreate a style and learn how I did it wrong for future use. For those of us still learning about ourselves and style of photography this is a great time to explore and take some chances... |
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03/24/2011 09:31:13 AM · #38 |
Here is my pepper shot (about a month too early) -- Not quite in the Weston tradition.
I have seen an original print of his pepper image at the MFA in Boston. It is actually a very small print and was ignored by most people as they walked by it :( |
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03/24/2011 03:39:55 PM · #39 |
Well I'm not ashamed to say I tried a shot today and failed miserable. Wrong location, wrong lighting, wrong lens.....
I got this though :) |
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03/24/2011 06:39:09 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Well I'm not ashamed to say I tried a shot today and failed miserable. Wrong location, wrong lighting, wrong lens.....
I got this though :) |
..nothing? |
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03/24/2011 06:54:41 PM · #41 |
| This style is a lot harder to pull off well then I originally thought. How naive of me. |
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03/24/2011 09:37:35 PM · #42 |
I found a bird!!
weston bird |
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03/24/2011 09:39:47 PM · #43 |
Here's a nice collection:
//photography-now.net/edward_weston/index.html
Not a DPC ribbon winner, but a pretty good photographer nonetheless. |
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03/24/2011 09:52:55 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:
This style is a lot harder to pull off well then I originally thought. How naive of me. |
Your telling me I'm on to my third photo shoot tomorrow. I think this time I might have put all the puzzle pieces together. |
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03/24/2011 09:58:16 PM · #45 |
The style is not hard to pull off. Everyone is going to make it hard by choosing to duplicate Weston's subject material.
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03/24/2011 09:58:52 PM · #46 |
| Thank you Don, that was a treat. You all should look. They are very well chosen and presented. |
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03/24/2011 10:02:48 PM · #47 |
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03/24/2011 10:03:42 PM · #48 |
That's a beautiful collection :-) |
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03/24/2011 10:06:57 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
The style is not hard to pull off. Everyone is going to make it hard by choosing to duplicate Weston's subject material. |
Not true, I am just trying to get a certain style not an exact copy. There are many things to think about with his photography than just subject. Lighting, aperture settings, background choices, camera angle, just to name a few. And that is just in camera, after that comes post processing choices. |
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03/24/2011 10:31:48 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by sjhuls:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
The style is not hard to pull off. Everyone is going to make it hard by choosing to duplicate Weston's subject material. |
Not true, I am just trying to get a certain style not an exact copy. There are many things to think about with his photography than just subject. Lighting, aperture settings, background choices, camera angle, just to name a few. And that is just in camera, after that comes post processing choices. |
That's where I depart from this particular challenge idea. Weston's style is not really defined by any of those things you mentioned. Those are all technical aspects of a photograph. Technicals don't usually define anyone's style. The technical aspects of Weston's photography were fairly commonly used by a LOT of photographers during that period as well as today. Weston's subject choices are what defined his style.
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