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03/16/2011 09:10:17 PM · #1
so, anyone want to discuss this topic.

my feeling is that if you have an interesting main subject and a good composition, you have a de facto "focal point". so what will make this challenge unique?

-mefnj
03/16/2011 09:28:22 PM · #2
Originally posted by mefnj:

so, anyone want to discuss this topic.

my feeling is that if you have an interesting main subject and a good composition, you have a de facto "focal point". so what will make this challenge unique?

-mefnj


i read an article awhile ago on a depth of field, for instance on a landscape shot they explained that they wanted to keep a few rocks in the foreground in focus to maintain a focal point even though the image was a shot of some mountains and the rocks weren't really the subject of the image.
03/16/2011 10:46:55 PM · #3
focal point is smaller
03/16/2011 10:48:19 PM · #4
Originally posted by mike_311:


i read an article awhile ago on a depth of field, for instance on a landscape shot they explained that they wanted to keep a few rocks in the foreground in focus to maintain a focal point even though the image was a shot of some mountains and the rocks weren't really the subject of the image.


Ah, good to know!

Message edited by author 2011-03-16 22:48:31.
03/16/2011 10:50:08 PM · #5
Originally posted by mefnj:

so what will make this challenge unique?
-mefnj

its title
03/16/2011 11:00:29 PM · #6
If you think about it from an optics standpoint, the focal point of a lens is the point where light rays would converge and form a clear image. Since the several lenses are combining to give you a certain focal point, the part of your image that you want to accentuate the most should be the clearest and most defined. I was having trouble conceptualizing this as well but I am taking it to be similar to a bokeh challenge. Hope this helps.

-KT
03/16/2011 11:03:03 PM · #7
It is not going to matter if there is a difference to DPC voters. If it is a great photo and the subject is the focal point it will score well.
03/17/2011 12:25:28 AM · #8
In terms of landscapes, it's very easy to have a landscape without a focal point. As a very general rule, where you incorporate a focal point (like the aforementioned rock) into a landscape, it becomes stronger, more visually arresting, for it. Look at the following:



That's a pretty good example of a landscape that, for all its dramatic sky, would be a lot more pedestrian if the boats were not in it. IMO it would be correct to say the moored sailboat adds a focal point to this image. But it's NOT the "subject"; the landscape itself is the subject.



Ditto the above, where the skiff is a strong focal point but not the subject of the image. However, it's a lot more the subject than is the moored sailboat above.



Are the cattails the subject here? I don't think so, but they are assuredly a focal point.

It gets more difficult with, say, portraits, but in general, you can easily conceive that the "subject" is the entire face, but the "focal point" is the eyes, right? See this portrait of Dwight Eisenhower by Yousuf Karsh:



Hope this helps...

R.

Message edited by author 2011-03-17 00:26:05.
03/17/2011 01:08:05 AM · #9
The challenge will be to make the challenge interesting.

Our eyes have a focal point, thus making a blurry image appropriate for the challenge. Use contrast as your focal point.

DOF, light, and contrast converge to create the focal point. Subject? Who cares. Z can make a subject out of anything using light.

Needs no explanation. :)

Creating context and texture without being the subject.

Message edited by author 2011-03-17 01:08:40.
03/17/2011 02:38:42 AM · #10
lensbaby is an easy way to create an obvious focal point
03/17/2011 10:33:16 AM · #11
Originally posted by kenskid:

It is not going to matter if there is a difference to DPC voters. If it is a great photo and the subject is the focal point it will score well.


great another free study this month, that makes three!
03/20/2011 02:38:39 AM · #12
Originally posted by LevT:

lensbaby is an easy way to create an obvious focal point


Can I borrow it again?
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