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07/07/2004 09:34:31 AM · #26
Originally posted by dcano:

Hi all! I, like all of you have been wondering about all these things as well. Does anyone have a picture of one of their business cards or know what should be printed on them?
dc


This thread was quite helpful for me... Business Cards
07/07/2004 09:58:39 AM · #27
Ooooh... I just love how cheesy that 'IPA' Press Pass thingy looks. I could whip that up in under ten minutes using MS Paint...

If you want to get started on the Press route, I would think that hitting very local events would be a perfect place to start.

I am not sure if it is like this across the US or other countries, but in my city there is a very local, at least several times a week 'News Paper' that covers my city and another local city. There is no charge for it, they just show up in the mailbox.

It's not a bad paper, it talks about a number of local events, city council meeting dates and things on the docket, local crimes and such.

I am certain that a 'rag' like that would enjoy having a few freelance shots of some local events to put into an upcoming issue. I have no idea if they have any on-staff photographers or if they would pay much for a freelance shot or two. You never know.

I think I will have to look into that now...

07/07/2004 10:08:21 AM · #28
Thanks evan.
Jacko's is very good.
dc
07/07/2004 10:12:41 AM · #29
Hmm... create your own credentials, huh?

07/07/2004 10:28:36 AM · #30
After I got my 10D and pro lenses people always let me throug so I can be at the best place when I am taking photos ... this works in many places here in Iceland but not on a big events.

All events I go to in my local town I don't have to pay. Just because I have this website (www.bloggari.is) where I have over 23000 photos from events in the neigbourhood (//www.bloggari.is/myndir.php)

Message edited by author 2004-07-07 10:29:53.
07/07/2004 10:28:53 AM · #31
Yeah sure, make your own crudentials.


07/07/2004 10:30:30 AM · #32
Originally posted by Bran-O-Rama:

Hmm... create your own credentials, huh?



LOL... I love this! :-)
07/07/2004 10:39:06 AM · #33
Originally posted by Bran-O-Rama:

Hmm... create your own credentials, huh?



ROFL!! I want one like this!
07/07/2004 11:06:56 AM · #34
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:

My biggest pet peeve is the news cameramen pushing and blocking the public, paying or otherwise.

Sorry, I was one of those guys:| But you know what my biggest pet peeve was? The public paying or otherwise jumping in front of my camera and waving. That is so ANNOYING. Everytime they do that, I think to myself "well there's another 10 secs of wasted videotape" I typically didn't put waving people in my TV stories except kids, cause some kids are cute.
07/07/2004 11:57:48 AM · #35
Chuckle, I have the opposite problem. Photography for me is a hobby, but since my purchase of the 10D (especially if I am using a large lens like the 70-200) people assume I am a professional. Course the fact that I tend to have a mono and tripod with me also helps. :-D

But now that I have got some stock up, I suppose I can tell people I do stock photography. Just save me from the wedding crowd.

Although I did some photography for a local wild life center and got a free years pass. Sort of counts

Message edited by author 2004-07-07 11:59:02.
07/07/2004 12:42:44 PM · #36
With my ID tag, gearbag and honking Manfrotto tripod--I can never go out where people are and not get asked "What are you taking pictures of?" and "What speed film are you using?"

What are some funny questions you've been asked when out shooting?

Message edited by author 2004-07-07 12:43:34.
07/07/2004 01:14:05 PM · #37
It's true about the tripod. Carry one of those around, and people assume you are a professional. I wandered around NYC a year ago, and with my tripod, people thought I was serious business. Tourists kept asking me for directions!
07/07/2004 01:18:10 PM · #38
I carry business cards with me everywhere.


07/07/2004 01:28:44 PM · #39
Originally posted by wwwavenger:

With my ID tag, gearbag and honking Manfrotto tripod--I can never go out where people are and not get asked "What are you taking pictures of?" and "What speed film are you using?"

What are some funny questions you've been asked when out shooting?


Funny questions? Why is my camera not working (I was in the San Diego zoo and while having lunch was approached by someone with a film rebel (Canon) The funny thing was that I could fix his problem. And thanks to Gordon, Kiwi, and John (along with many others) when other people approach me and want to ask technical questions I can at least answer them. Haven't been stumped yet, althought that rebel fellow who had a pressed the film rewind button then couldn't figure out why he couldn't take any more pictures even though he knew he had only used 7 on the roll was tough. Lucky for me I had a film rebel once and knew the symbol so could ask specifically if he pressed the button.
07/07/2004 01:37:42 PM · #40
Originally posted by dsidwell:

Originally posted by langdon:

Originally posted by dsidwell:

Does anyone carry around or wear any type of photographer identification? Business cards, a laniard that says 'PHOTOGRAPHER' or anything of that ilk? Does it help?


Sounds like there's a good story behind this post. Tell it?


Not really, but I have been wishing at concerts and things that I had something 'official' so I could get right up to the stage and get some shots, or if I said to a cute gal, 'May I take your picture?' it's not a come-on line.


I have little cards I keep with me. I print them up myself from Geographics Tear Off Tickets. The small section I have business card information (my name and contact information etc...)

On the larger ticket half I have a pocket model release form. Plus a place for them to sign date etc... Haven't actually used it yet, but just printed it out this week. Having something to give them in return especially since it is attached to the release form to me give a nice mix of professional and hobbiest.

example here
07/07/2004 02:12:42 PM · #41
Get one of those tan fishing vests. Then everyone will know you are a pro photographer. Seems like all the pros wear them...

I found that in most places, if you just walk in and walk around like you belong there no one asks questions.
07/07/2004 02:14:00 PM · #42
Originally posted by louddog:

Get one of those tan fishing vests. Then everyone will know you are a pro photographer. Seems like all the pros wear them...


Haha, you caught me. That was on my shopping list for my next trip to Wal-Mart:P
07/07/2004 02:23:33 PM · #43
Originally posted by dsidwell:


Not really, but I have been wishing at concerts and things that I had something 'official' so I could get right up to the stage and get some shots, or if I said to a cute gal, 'May I take your picture?' it's not a come-on line.


Concerts you really want to get in touch with the manager of the act and arrange things up front. There are a few people on dpc who shoot concert photography that no doubt have better advice. Typically you only get 2 or 3 songs at the start then have to get out of the way.

Great article on all things concert-photo related
//www.photo.net/concerts/mirarchi/concer_i

Message edited by author 2004-07-07 14:23:51.
07/07/2004 05:02:54 PM · #44
Originally posted by dsidwell:

It's true about the tripod. Carry one of those around, and people assume you are a professional. I wandered around NYC a year ago, and with my tripod, people thought I was serious business. Tourists kept asking me for directions!


This is one of the funniest threads I̢۪ve read in a long time. Thanks for the chuckle guys.
07/07/2004 05:50:44 PM · #45
My daughter has a look that people tend to want to photograph (myself included) and she has been approached a few times by students who want to take her photo. This is how she was approached on each occasion:

When her hair looked like this:


she was approached by a girl who said she was taking a photography class and they had an assigment on texture and she thought Ivy's hair would be great for. My daughter shrugged, and said, "Sure".

Second time she was in CVS (local drugstore), this time with orangey-red hair, and two guys (students) ran up to her and asked her to hold an orange up to her face and let them take a picture. She obliged and as they walked away she and her sister heard them say, "I'm glad we caught up with them." They apparently had spotted Ivy and run up Thayer St. in hopes of getting the shot.

In this area, because of RISD, it isn't unusual to see people taking pictures or filming stuff. There is art everywhere around here, even hanging from telephone poles. Anyone familiar with the Andre the Giant stickers that can be seen all over the world (Andre the Giant Has a Posse) might be interested to know they got their start in Rhode Island when the creater, Shep Fairey, was attending RISD.

Sorry, got off-topic there. Anyway, the approach these students used was pretty forthright and honest and it worked. Of course, my daughter is a rather self-composed individual who doesn't get too flustered by attenition. I myself am kind of shy about taking photos of strangers. With my old SLR, I had learned a trick of
bringing the camera to my eye and focusing on the subject, but then bringing my head up to look at a point beyond them, not making eye contact, as if I'm simply taking a scenic photo. This is harder to do with digital POS, or any POS for that matter.

As far as shows go, a lot probably depends on the venue and the band. I woud think that contacting management in advance would be the first step but then the band might have a rider stating no photos or something. If the band has a website with tour dates, contacting them directly and asking permission in advance of the show might work. The less well-known the band, the more likely you are to get a yes since you can offer them prints for their press kit. Free photos are an invaluable commodity for a poor indie band.

My kids are very bold and have been quite successful in meeting and talking to band members after a show. They've chatted with and gotten autographs from the guys in Hot Hot Heat a couple of times. This isn't ideal for getting action shots but it could get you in the door next time the band is in town.

07/07/2004 05:52:19 PM · #46
Nazgul has taken some great concert shots. I would certainly ask him what his approach is.
07/08/2004 02:04:42 AM · #47
Originally posted by melismatica:

In this area, because of RISD, it isn't unusual to see people taking pictures or filming stuff. There is art everywhere around here, even hanging from telephone poles. Anyone familiar with the Andre the Giant stickers that can be seen all over the world (Andre the Giant Has a Posse) might be interested to know they got their start in Rhode Island when the creater, Shep Fairey, was attending RISD.

One of my "alternate" shots for the Rust challenge :)

Was Andre Pole-ish?
07/12/2004 10:09:36 PM · #48
Originally posted by KarenB:

Originally posted by Bran-O-Rama:

Hmm... create your own credentials, huh?



ROFL!! I want one like this!


LOL, clasic... would actually go down well in some of the venues i go to... far better than genuine press ones, lol.


07/12/2004 10:30:12 PM · #49
On a more serious reply to the question...

I always carry my cards with me, one never knows when someone may appeal to the eye, in which case I hand a card over, and explain.

I'd never use a card or credentials as a come on, lifes to short as I value my now chosen career. Some of my friends think I have the best job in the world and think its one of the best potentail chat up lines ever, lol.

From the erotic and fetish side of things it can be a double edged sword... you have to fancy the person looks wise, but if the approach is professional (ie the first thing you mention is the photography) then you imediatly have to exclude yourself from any other involvement.

Venue wise (music).... depending on the type of venue I have a couple of t-shirts with some of my photos on the front and back quite faded as it does give an impression of longevity, and also despite my own personality being very shy in everyday situations, when it comes to photographing I want that shot... and the air of apparent self confidance comes across and works wonders; it really is a case of showing that "i'm allowed here..." and people will let you.

The only thing I will say with the above is check with each venue the alowability of photographs... if they say "its up to the band" (assuming music related) then email the band and get permission... most will, as will most other areas of live acts.

I actully prefer to hand a card over when its with a potential model, as then it seems far less of a come on, as the OP asked.

In response the another posters question over cards... I have a varying set using the best and most current shots and at least 10 different main photos each run.

an old one is


07/13/2004 05:44:41 AM · #50
Many people want my photography... but aren't willing to pay... Been doing this for a LONG TIME and giving it away to friend̢۪s family & fans for cost (or less)... The advent of point and shoot digital cameras and home printers has taken the concept of 'Making Money' at doing what you love to do to a higher level. That is exactly why I am pleased to have found DPC ... as the community here has not only raised the bar but there are more than willing to help those of us that want to improve what we do. I give them one of my cards and too often it's "Nice - But anyone can take a nice picture of THE BRIDGE

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