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01/07/2011 10:04:50 PM · #76 |
Originally posted by willgolden:
Originally posted by karmat:
As far as your camera -- if your phone records EXIF, then you can use it. if it is there, then we will add the phone to the database. |
Bloody hell you guys are fast! It takes Yahoo a sidereal year to catch up with its members!
Well..... I have a Sony Ericsson W810i. I know it is EXIF compliant because the EXIF data comes up on Flickr!
Exif data (of my photo in question):-
Camera Sony Ericsson W810i
Exposure 1/2500 sec
Aperture f/2.8
ISO Speed 80
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Flash Off
Orientation Horizontal (normal)
X-Resolution 72 dpi
Y-Resolution 72 dpi
Software R4DB005 prgCXC1250316_GENERIC_H 4.5
[i]Date and Time (Modified) 2009:05:02 11:48:16
YCbCr Positioning Co-sited
Date and Time (Original) 2009:05:02 11:48:16
Date and Time (Digitized) 2009:05:02 11:48:16
Metering Mode Center-weighted average
Light Source Unknown
Color Space sRGB
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratio 0
Scene Capture Type Standard
Subject Distance Range Distant
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Orientation Horizontal (normal)[/i]
So, Pretty please with sugar on top..... :) :) :)
No, though I do have to intro myself with due explanation, I'm not generally defensive, just aggravatingly flippant! ;)
Thanxxxx KarmaT; ignore the help request, I just got well'n'truly helped!
Now.... I wonder if I can post that photo URL yet?
Nope! |
This little bit of information might render it useless!!!
Date and Time (Modified) 2009:05:02 11:48:16
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01/07/2011 10:07:56 PM · #77 |
ummm... the second rub is: you need to be a paying member to enter the member challenges. If you don't wish to buy the membership now, you can enter one of the two "exclusive" challenges: work or holidays
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01/07/2011 10:20:16 PM · #78 |
Is this it?
Cause if so, it is already in our database. |
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01/07/2011 10:49:42 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by willgolden:
Well..... I have a Sony Ericsson W810i. I know it is EXIF compliant because the EXIF data comes up on Flickr!
Now.... I wonder if I can post that photo URL yet? |
Why not just use this one? My Life in Photo Art
Just remember the editing rules when entering here.
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01/08/2011 12:05:50 AM · #80 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by marnet:
OUCH!! I am only new here! |
Not sure why you would say that. I was only trying to give you a helpful suggestion.
As you can see, everyone interprets challenge descriptions differently, there is never a black and white description that people can agree on here. So shoot what you think it means and in the style you like. |
Amen, Juliet! :)
I came into this thread to see if there was any sort of clarification of what the majority of posters might agree are possible accepted definitions of this type of challenge description and found this HUGE discrepancy in what it is or isn't. LOL
This means that yet again, what one person considers "right", another one considers "wrong" so, no matter what anyone shoots, there's going to be people who agree that it fits and others who will disagree with that.
Shooting what WE think it means is likely our best bet. :0)
Think I'll shoot a screen shot of this thread! It's certainly not in balance! LOL ;) |
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01/08/2011 01:05:55 AM · #81 |
Originally posted by karmat:
(link) Is this it?[/url]
Cause if so, it is already in our database. |
Yeh! Cool! It just ain't among the options yet. These things take time I guess.
Guess what? I couldn't even quote yo message coz it wont let me copy yo link! Hahaha, PMPL!
It's 6am n I ain't crashed yet. Count my losses! I'm bailing!
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01/08/2011 01:49:48 PM · #82 |
I came across another interesting article on balance in photography and would like to share it here as quite a number of folks including myself are trying to form a clearer idea of what exactly it encompasses.
//www.digital-photography-school.com/balance-in-photography |
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01/08/2011 02:15:45 PM · #83 |
RESOLVED.
Message edited by author 2011-01-08 14:28:10.
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01/08/2011 06:16:33 PM · #84 |
| Just a note, even though you have resolved this issue, IF it is in the database, it *can* be added to your profile. |
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01/09/2011 08:23:25 PM · #85 |
Neither the "Out of Balance" portion, nor the "still effective" portion are easy by themselves. But, to accomplish both at the same time is a very significant challenge.
edited to correct my grammar.
Message edited by author 2011-01-09 20:39:56. |
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01/09/2011 08:55:28 PM · #86 |
I think this is another challenge where the low scores will rule as most people will have a preconceived notion as to what the topic really is. This is probably futile but I ask the voters to have an open mind to all of the various interpretations.
Message edited by author 2011-01-09 20:56:13. |
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01/09/2011 09:02:17 PM · #87 |
Originally posted by franktheyank:
I think this is another challenge where the low scores will rule as most people will have a preconceived notion as to what the topic really is. This is probably futile but I ask the voters to have an open mind to all of the various interpretations. |
Look, if it's not a blue poodle in a red roadster, with motion blur, and a tilted composition, then I'm absolutely justified in giving it a 2...
Jeez man, what the hell is Out of Balance supposed to mean, if not that?!?! |
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01/09/2011 09:12:07 PM · #88 |
Well waddaya know!? I entered this challenge after all. Yes, it was quite a surprise to me as well. As will be the result of this experiment. I do believe it is either effective and/or out of balance. But based on the extensive deliberations on this thread, there's no sure way to know for sure.
I have a feeling looking at these entries is going to make me queasy... |
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01/09/2011 09:36:45 PM · #89 |
Originally posted by tanguera:
Well waddaya know!? I entered this challenge after all. Yes, it was quite a surprise to me as well. As will be the result of this experiment. I do believe it is either effective and/or out of balance. But based on the extensive deliberations on this thread, there's no sure way to know for sure.
I have a feeling looking at these entries is going to make me queasy... |
Still trying desperately to edit mine and it's makeing me Queasy!!! Maybe I should sit this one out.... |
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01/09/2011 09:47:06 PM · #90 |
Oh man.
I am in, but I can't really explain why I am in.
I am so sure that this is going to be slaughtered. |
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01/09/2011 10:29:58 PM · #91 |
| Well, I am in too. I don't really care about my average as long as I can get some 6s along the way. With this one I will be happy if I get a 5! And I am thinking of commenting on all of them along the lines: DNMC - not unbalanced or DNMC - not effective. I wonder how many will be not DNMC?? |
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01/09/2011 10:35:27 PM · #92 |
Originally posted by marnet:
Well, I am in too. I don't really care about my average as long as I can get some 6s along the way. With this one I will be happy if I get a 5! And I am thinking of commenting on all of them along the lines: DNMC - not unbalanced or DNMC - not effective. I wonder how many will be not DNMC?? |
I̢۪m afraid mine will be considered a double DNMC. Too balanced and not effective :-/
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01/09/2011 10:35:49 PM · #93 |
| This thread has made me want to remove my entry. So much controversy messing with my photographic freedoms. I'm leaving it in though I have no doubt it will score poorly. |
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01/09/2011 10:42:52 PM · #94 |
I'm in.
For all those worrying about getting slammed with DNMC votes, just remember that having a strong entry counts for more in the voting than meeting everybody's definition of the topic.
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01/09/2011 10:47:16 PM · #95 |
| I'd like to propose that since this theme seems to be particularly murky in the consensus department, that we not worry so much about DNMC. And if it is somewhat in the vicinity of out of balance, that we judge the image on its own merits. Sort of a free study with an out of balance attitude. Well, that's what I'm going to do. |
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01/09/2011 10:52:30 PM · #96 |
Originally posted by DCNUTTER:
How dare I? Don't take offense to me explaining the true definition of what an out of balance shot is. I'm not stating my opinion of what I think it is...I'm stating actual facts of what it is...period. You were stating YOUR interpretation of what the CHALLENGE means and confusing the situation. That is in a nutshell what's wrong with most challenges here other than the Free Study. People can shoot what they want, they can submit any photo to any challenge where it's a DNMC or not, but that does NOT change what the proper definition is of any particular style, genre or technique of photography is. Case in point...Motion Blur versus Out of Focus challenges. People continually open up threads like this and debate it to no end. Photos regardless of the quality of art display continually win certain challenges even though they are DNMC in the truest definition. There is a distinct difference and between the look of...and definition of something that is out of focus or motioned blurred but people who are here for photography whether as a hobby or desired profession continue to ignore that and the voters do as well. You can't..and shouldn't vote on something if you don't understand what it is you're looking at in the first place.
The challenge description reads:
Out of Balance · Advanced Editing
Balance is an important element of photography. Create a .. [more] photo which is out of balance, but still effective.
That challenge says NOTHING about the subject being tilted or out of balance and it certainly doesn't imply that someone who is mentally unstable would fit the challenge. Again, that's YOUR interpretation which is fine, but like it or not it's off base from the ART FORM you're preaching about. For what it's worth...the challenge title doesn't read OFF Balance...it reads out of balance which anyone who have ever studies photography would know what that means composition wise.
Sorry that you are easily offended by someone responding to your words, but I personally try to clarify things when I help people and not contaminate the art of photography with bad interpretations. I deal with facts, and if it were just my opinion I would have stated that. |
Just want to thank you for the info you shared. I myself was not sure what 'out of balance' meant and the info you provided here along with the links really clarified it. My entry will be a DNMC most likely, but I am leaving it in to see how others perceive it. Thank you for
trying to preserve the art of photography with facts...you did well.
Message edited by author 2011-01-09 22:52:57. |
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01/09/2011 11:17:39 PM · #97 |
| Well I braved up, and joined the ranks .... Oh I have sooo many PUNNY (yes thats Punny) remarks to make about my entry, but sigh, can't say em without being a dead give away.... Let the Games Begin!!! |
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01/09/2011 11:21:45 PM · #98 |
Originally posted by littlemav:
I have sooo many PUNNY (yes thats Punny) remarks to make about my entry, but sigh, can't say em without being a dead give away.... Let the Games Begin!!! |
Worry not, if the puns are that obvious, you can count on me to make them in the comments.
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01/09/2011 11:50:26 PM · #99 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
I'm in.
For all those worrying about getting slammed with DNMC votes, just remember that having a strong entry counts for more in the voting than meeting everybody's definition of the topic. |
That's where I'm going on this one. |
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01/09/2011 11:52:28 PM · #100 |
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