| Author | Thread |
|
|
12/18/2010 07:43:54 AM · #26 |
| For me it all depends on the situation. General shooting I use Av mode with ex comp to dial in what I want. If I am shooting something that is speed sensitive I use Tv mode. If I am on a shoot with my lighting it is full manual. |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 08:52:54 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by jminso:
For me it all depends on the situation. General shooting I use Av mode with ex comp to dial in what I want. If I am shooting something that is speed sensitive I use Tv mode. If I am on a shoot with my lighting it is full manual. |
This is exactly how I shoot 99% of the time. However, I recently read that some photojournalist pros use full auto modes sometimes to ensure that they get a usable shot in one time quick moving situations. Maybe something to think about for street photography.
Originally posted by mgarsteck:
When I shoot HDR I always use aV, never shoot HDR with Program Auto. You will probably regret it at least once. |
Also need to use manual focus for HDR exposures. |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 09:06:05 AM · #28 |
Today's cameras have auto modes? ;0
All manual, all the time. Flashes too. Even with a 7 000 dollar camera, it would be set to manual.
I drive an automatic though. :) |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 09:08:35 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by Skip:
a pro once told me, "i paid enough for this camera...the damn thing should be able to think for itself."
i don't think it really matters what mode you use as long as you know what you're after and what you have to do with your camera to realize your vision. |
Kind of surprised to see this,
With today's in camera metering this pro must be doing a lot of photoshop to correct his images if he let's the camera do everything. |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 09:40:06 AM · #30 |
Well for me, I pretty much use all Manual right down to Manual focus. This is because I mainly do landscapes and I do HDR allot as well. The reason for this is because I like to focus on the Hyperfocal distance (taught to me by  alfresco during the DPL) That is impossible with auto focus. You also need Manual focus with HDR as well as full control of the Light meter... So I have gotten used to just shooting in full manual all the time, even in other applications. For sports however, I do relly on Priority, and sometimes auto focus depending on what I'm shooting...
Message edited by author 2010-12-18 09:40:45. |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 09:50:17 AM · #31 |
I use Aperture Priority pretty much all the time but have my EV adjustment set to the quick wheel. I set aperture to control depth of field and then use the quick wheel to make manual adjustments to the metering or to tweak the exposure within recoverable limits to control shutter speed. If I can't get the shutter 'in range' I'll just tweak the aperture a little with the top dial until I can.
I can't see how full manual would give me more control than I get through this technique. |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 10:47:41 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
I use Aperture Priority pretty much all the time but have my EV adjustment set to the quick wheel. I set aperture to control depth of field and then use the quick wheel to make manual adjustments to the metering or to tweak the exposure within recoverable limits to control shutter speed. If I can't get the shutter 'in range' I'll just tweak the aperture a little with the top dial until I can.
I can't see how full manual would give me more control than I get through this technique. |
I can counter with; I don't see why you go through
all that fuss with exposure compensation instead of
going manual.
They both achieve close to the same results I'm sure. |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 10:54:49 AM · #33 |
| I love playing with light, manual only.. |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 10:55:13 AM · #34 |
| Use Auto if you don't need control over DOF, Shutter Speed, ISO, Flash power..... |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 11:25:48 AM · #35 |
The majority of my photos are taken with Aperture Priority. I have never thought of using auto but might give it a go and see how it works out, who knows I might get a decent shot ! :-)
|
|
|
|
12/18/2010 05:22:03 PM · #36 |
Of late, most of my shots are in a studio, so full manual there. I use Aperture or Shutter Speed Priority on occasion when out and about and doing street work (min shutter speed to avoid excessive motion blur, for example). While I seldom use full auto or Program modes, there are times when I see something happening that will not last, no time to fuss, and I know whatever settings I currently have on the camera will not do. Twist to auto or program and grab the shot. I tend to do manual mainly because I used a view camera, and had to make every decision about exposure myself. Hard habit to break.
Another use for those modes is when in an unfamiliar setting or lighting situation: take one shot on auto or program, see what the camera settings were and inspect the image: it gives you a starting point--if you did or did not like the dof, or the shutter speed was too slow for the action, etc., you decide on settings that matter for what you want, go to aperture, shutter speed, or full manual mode.
And, when shooting a half dozen nieces and nephews opening Christmas gifts all around a room in variable lighting: i tend to go with full auto and speedlight on full ttl.
Let us not forget the liberating feeling that can happen when switching to a point and shoot or phone camera, where we have no control at all. :-)
I do think fussing with exposure compensation on full auto is not unlike just using a manual mode, though, and it can be even more confusing later what the camera is doing.
I hope to one day own a camera so advanced in low-light high-iso capability that I can let the iso roam freely without giving it any thought or limitation. That would be a fully automatic thing I could get behind. Someday the tech will be that good. It almost is now, and will one day also be more affordable.
There is a seeming Full Auto Argue mode, though, with people insisting one way is right and any other way is wrong. How about we all agree to refuse to use Full Auto Argue for a while, see how our images and mood may improve? :-) |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 07:00:03 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
I use Aperture Priority pretty much all the time but have my EV adjustment set to the quick wheel. I set aperture to control depth of field and then use the quick wheel to make manual adjustments to the metering or to tweak the exposure within recoverable limits to control shutter speed. If I can't get the shutter 'in range' I'll just tweak the aperture a little with the top dial until I can.
I can't see how full manual would give me more control than I get through this technique. |
I can counter with; I don't see why you go through
all that fuss with exposure compensation instead of
going manual.
They both achieve close to the same results I'm sure. |
They can both achieve the same results since they both have access to the same options in the camera. The only difference is Manual allows you to get exactly what you want every time and Full Auto doesn't. Same goes for Auto White Balance, which can produce different results from shot to shot. Personally, I don't see the point in using auto on a dslr since you basically only control the composition and if that's all you want to do then you are better off using a point and shoot. That is until a camera manufacturer comes out with an auto setting with mind reading abilities...
Originally posted by chromeydome:
There is a seeming Full Auto Argue mode, though, with people insisting one way is right and any other way is wrong. How about we all agree to refuse to use Full Auto Argue for a while, see how our images and mood may improve? :-) |
Sorry I use Manual Argue Mode. More effective. :P
Message edited by author 2010-12-18 19:02:44. |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 07:18:17 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by chromeydome:
There is a seeming Full Auto Argue mode, though, with people insisting one way is right and any other way is wrong. How about we all agree to refuse to use Full Auto Argue for a while, see how our images and mood may improve? :-) |
Sorry I use Manual Argue Mode. More effective. :P |
Well played, well played...... :-) |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 07:21:53 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
I use Aperture Priority pretty much all the time but have my EV adjustment set to the quick wheel. I set aperture to control depth of field and then use the quick wheel to make manual adjustments to the metering or to tweak the exposure within recoverable limits to control shutter speed. If I can't get the shutter 'in range' I'll just tweak the aperture a little with the top dial until I can.
I can't see how full manual would give me more control than I get through this technique. |
I can counter with; I don't see why you go through
all that fuss with exposure compensation instead of
going manual.
They both achieve close to the same results I'm sure. |
They can both achieve the same results since they both have access to the same options in the camera. The only difference is Manual allows you to get exactly what you want every time and Full Auto doesn't. Same goes for Auto White Balance, which can produce different results from shot to shot. Personally, I don't see the point in using auto on a dslr since you basically only control the composition and if that's all you want to do then you are better off using a point and shoot. That is until a camera manufacturer comes out with an auto setting with mind reading abilities...
|
[manual argue mode]
We're talking aperture priority Yanko. So...
I can if I choose to, argue the point that he won't get the same results in aperture priority mode as in manual mode because he can only control the shutter speed to a certain point with exposure compensation, +3 or -3 stops.
So yeah, I chose to argue the point.
[/manual argue mode]
Message edited by author 2010-12-18 19:22:42. |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 07:24:53 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
I use Aperture Priority pretty much all the time but have my EV adjustment set to the quick wheel. I set aperture to control depth of field and then use the quick wheel to make manual adjustments to the metering or to tweak the exposure within recoverable limits to control shutter speed. If I can't get the shutter 'in range' I'll just tweak the aperture a little with the top dial until I can.
I can't see how full manual would give me more control than I get through this technique. |
I can counter with; I don't see why you go through
all that fuss with exposure compensation instead of
going manual.
They both achieve close to the same results I'm sure. |
They can both achieve the same results since they both have access to the same options in the camera. The only difference is Manual allows you to get exactly what you want every time and Full Auto doesn't. Same goes for Auto White Balance, which can produce different results from shot to shot. Personally, I don't see the point in using auto on a dslr since you basically only control the composition and if that's all you want to do then you are better off using a point and shoot. That is until a camera manufacturer comes out with an auto setting with mind reading abilities...
|
[manual argue mode]
We're talking aperture priority Yanko. So...
I can if I choose to, argue the point that he won't get the same results in aperture priority mode as in manual mode because he can only control the shutter speed to a certain point with exposure compensation, +3 or -3 stops.
So yeah, I chose to argue the point.
[/manual argue mode] |
Forgive me. I'm still learning this manual argue mode... |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 08:18:10 PM · #41 |
I think - one point that is also overlooked - "depends on the camera". I came from a film background - everything manual including focus.
My first digital was a canon 350D. Therefore I started doing everything manual (because that was what I was use to). The 350D is a bastard for manual adjustments - too fiddly and often everything was over before I got started. I soon learnt the value of Av; TV settings and felt that they offered enough options.
I now have a 7D and use manual a lot more. Mainly because the set up is more like the old film SLR ( I love the second adjustment wheel on the back) - therefore manual adjustments can be made quickly. All street or event photography is done on AV - things happen quickly - therefore you need to adjust quickly. I use manual for landscape or set up shots.
I'm not sure from the original post whether he is asking about P mode ? If this is the case - I have used it on occasions such as birthday parties using the pop up flash.
A lot of todays camera's also have custom settings - the idea being you set up your ideal settings and you have them available with the press of a button (sort of fully manual and saved or fully auto ??)
I do find this argument a little snobbish - not because of which setting they use - but the way the argument has evolved.
Now what I want to know - who grinds their own glass for lenses ?
Message edited by author 2010-12-18 20:21:45. |
|
|
|
12/18/2010 08:37:08 PM · #42 |
Besides the situation determining which mode is "best" I have only seen a couple of people mention that the selected metering mode should make a difference in the effectiveness of the Auto or Program modes, and that the ability to preveiew the exposure using an EVF or the LCD screen affects the effectiveness of the more manual modes.
For those unfamiliar, Program mode is like Auto except that it fixes the ISO value -- the camera calculates aperture and speed -- important to those of us who get unusable noise at ISO 400 and above. |
|
|
|
12/19/2010 05:14:34 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by Sevlow:
The majority of my photos are taken with Aperture Priority. I have never thought of using auto but might give it a go and see how it works out, who knows I might get a decent shot ! :-) |
Well I went out this morning with my 30D and 7D and shot auto on both. I have never, ever, used auto so it was interesting to try it out.
I have not looked at the photos yet but one thing that was a pain in the ass was the flash popping up, more so on the 7D than the 30D, really annoyed me but I did persevere!
Another thing I have found out - shoot auto on the 30D and it shoots Jpeg, the 7D on auto shoots RAW
As I shoot in RAW all the time I am giving the 30D a black mark!
A fair bit of snow round here so will be interesting to see how they come out.
Message edited by author 2010-12-19 07:11:59. |
|
|
|
12/19/2010 07:14:49 AM · #44 |
|
|
|
12/19/2010 07:17:48 AM · #45 |
"the 7D on auto shoots RAW"
It shots what you set it to surely??? |
|
|
|
12/19/2010 07:27:30 AM · #46 |
Originally posted by Tiny:
"the 7D on auto shoots RAW"
It shots what you set it to surely??? |
I set both the 7D and 30D to Auto so let the camera decide everything
The 30D was originally set to RAW (my default) but when auto was selected it set it to Jpeg whereas the auto setting on the 7D stayed on RAW.
Message edited by author 2010-12-19 07:33:57. |
|
|
|
12/19/2010 07:43:21 AM · #47 |
Well, looking at the photos from both cameras they have done a pretty decent job in the auto mode setting. The shots on the 30D had my Tokina 11-16mm and on the 7D my Canon 17-40mm L lens.
If interested there are a few examples here > 30D/7D auto shots
The 30D preferred to set the iso at 400 on auto - the 7D set the iso at 100.
Both cameras selected 'pattern' for metering
Would I use auto again? I doubt it. I disliked the auto feature more on the 7D than on the 30D because the 7D wanted to use the pop-up flash way too much.
It was interesting and more importantly made me get up and take photos !
Message edited by author 2010-12-19 07:53:50. |
|
|
|
12/19/2010 08:01:37 AM · #48 |
Auto or manual???
sounds like a fair couple of options
got any more? |
|
|
|
12/19/2010 08:08:14 AM · #49 |
| Semi-auto!! I would think that setting it to Aperture Priority or Shutter Priority you are controlling 1/3 of the cameras settings. Otherwise the only choices given in the title of the thread would P or M!! |
|
|
|
12/19/2010 10:15:26 AM · #50 |
| Auto is impossible to use. The flash keeps wanting to pop out when I don't want it to.. or maybe I should stop trying to take pictures of dirt *sigh* |
|
Home -
Challenges -
Community -
League -
Photos -
Cameras -
Lenses -
Learn -
Help -
Terms of Use -
Privacy -
Top ^
DPChallenge, and website content and design, Copyright © 2001-2025 Challenging Technologies, LLC.
All digital photo copyrights belong to the photographers and may not be used without permission.
Current Server Time: 05/30/2025 04:06:44 AM EDT.
