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07/04/2004 10:44:38 AM · #1
Do borders make pictures better? And are they legal in both advanced and basic challenges? If so,what are the limitations as far as how thick they are?
Does anyone find they get better marks using them or if they see one on a picture they are voting for do they give it a better score? Any comments will be appreciated. Thank you.

Bassie
07/04/2004 10:56:35 AM · #2
That's a real can of worms for some folks...

If I've read it right, borders can be added for both member and open challenges, and you can do with them what you wish (other than add text). But A LOT of people hate them, no matter what. I personally don't mind unobtrusive, flattering borders, or borders that add to the mood, look, or feel of a shot, but I always get at least three or four "lose the border" comments no matter what border I choose. Lately I have just stopped using them. Good luck if you use one...well-chosen borders enhance photos, but sometimes it messes up a good thing.
07/04/2004 11:01:01 AM · #3
I think a simple fineline border looks good in many cases, after all we matt and border them in a frame !
Don't care for large gawdy looking borders or added borders using gimmicky software though,
Just my twopenneth,
Paul.
07/04/2004 11:06:47 AM · #4
Originally posted by laurielblack:

If I've read it right, borders can be added for both member and open challenges, and you can do with them what you wish (other than add text)...

Also can't add "clip" art or elements from another file, possibly the rule would be better phrase to say "you can create a border on your photo..." instead of "add border ..." and I think that the border should only be made using the current rules for the challenge you're entering.

I put borders on a lot of my photos, but as a rule more people hate them than like them at least around here.
07/04/2004 11:16:45 AM · #5
I've had very few complaints about my borders. I keep them to a simple thin line and border in either black/white or dark grey/white so that they're as unobtrusive as possible.
Like peecee I don't care much for gawdy or gimmicky borders - they can hurt the overall presentation of a photo, and first impressions really do matter in the challenges.
07/04/2004 11:45:00 AM · #6
Thank you all so much for your input on this matter.
07/04/2004 11:54:27 AM · #7
i do get a very few complaints about my borders. like bod, i try to keep them very simple and use neutral colors. it really depends on the image, though. i resize my image to 618px, then add a 2px border in white (or black) and an 18px border in black (or white). sometimes i resize to 620px and add just a 20px border in black or white. a border will change the look of your image so it's best to experiment to find what will enhance instead of distract.
07/04/2004 12:52:59 PM · #8
My main criteria for whether or not to use a border is how well the image will show against a grey background. For instance, my picture "Albuquerque Water", which has concrete running all round the edge, would not show well without a border.
07/04/2004 01:54:16 PM · #9
Last Challenge I had a few saying the Border sucked, some saying it didnt.. If you are doing it to get votes then you cant please everyone all of the time, if you are doing it for yourself, do what you like. I mostly use borders but thin ones, cause I like it! :)

Cheers
Aero

07/04/2004 02:06:02 PM · #10
When creating a border, keep in mind the DPC server will display your image inside a small black border to give it some seperation from the page background. Adding borders inside this, particularly layered borders, can make the image seem stacked behind too many layers. The page is the wall that displayes it, so keep it in mind when making a border.

Also, a border, especially the large ones, will take away from the pixels available to display your image, so make sure it adds enough to the image to offset the loss of actual image size. Of course, borders compress better than images, so if you have a complex image a border may save the detail by allowing the image to be compressed at a higher setting without reducing the completed display size.

David
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