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11/27/2010 12:11:14 PM · #101

Originally posted by photodude:

If you are asking if I was born in America, the answer is Yes.

If you are asking if I am of "American Indian" (which is now a Politically Incorrect Term) descent, the answer is No

Ah, so your ancestors were once immigrants of a nation other than the United States of America. Good to know!

photodude

11/27/2010 12:15:32 PM · #102

Yes and they didnt come here to kill people on a mass basis under the spell of a cult.

RayEthier

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

11/27/2010 12:21:15 PM · #103

Originally posted by photodude:

Yes and they didnt come here to kill people on a mass basis under the spell of a cult.

...and of course by extension, you would have us believe that all current immigrants do?

All I have heard from your so far is xenophobic mindless drivel...but hey, that's only my take on it.

Ray

kawesttex

Apple iPhone 11 Pro

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

11/27/2010 12:58:48 PM · #104

Originally posted by photodude:

We got lucky on defense again.

Actually he wasn't caught by a defensive act. The feds were in on this early according to the accounts I have seen.

Originally posted by photodude:

Since he is an American Citizen, let's try him for treason. ...... stick a needle in his arm.

Typically treason is death by firing squad.

FireBird

11/27/2010 01:07:35 PM · #105

I hate like hell to put this thread back on topic, but
oh well.

kawesttex

Apple iPhone 11 Pro

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

11/27/2010 01:10:52 PM · #106

Originally posted by FireBird:

I hate like hell to put this thread back on topic, but
oh well.

Well that sure is going to burst someone's bubble!! :-)

photodude

11/27/2010 01:37:44 PM · #107

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by photodude:
Yes and they didnt come here to kill people on a mass basis under the spell of a cult.

...and of course by extension, you would have us believe that all current immigrants do?

All I have heard from your so far is xenophobic mindless drivel...but hey, that's only my take on it.

Ray

Not All of them. Just a certain group

one2one

Olympus E-5

Olympus 7-14mm f/4.0 Zuiko Digital Zoom

11/27/2010 03:18:29 PM · #108

Originally posted by Melethia:

Originally posted by photodude:
A real movement there.

Again we arent being groped to get on planes to protect ourselves from them.

No one likes the groping. Well, OK, there are probably a few with a few beers under their belt that find it amusing. No one wants to go through all that shit to fly. I don't. I also don't want to live in a country where after all we've been through to get to where we are, we suddenly revert to judging a man by the color of his skin or the style of his dress. How sad is that?

'suddenly revert to' ?

Too late. Embarrassingly clear is that this technique works. If you target Arabs you will eventually find a terrorist just as if you target white males and screen their laptops for images of nude children you will end up catching a pedophile. Target Italians and you'll eventually find someone who has had dealings with the Italian mafia. It's insulting and degrading to have to go through that but it seems to be the most effective way to find these undesirable people. Think of how many terrorists that do not try to cross a border in fear they'll be targeted for questioning.

11/27/2010 03:28:28 PM · #109

Originally posted by photodude:

Yes and they didnt come here to kill people on a mass basis under the spell of a cult.

Well there was the eradication of the American Indian in the name of something. Expansion? The queen? But I'm sure that was someone else's ancestors.

Simms

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

11/27/2010 03:33:27 PM · #110

Originally posted by Melethia:

Originally posted by photodude:
Yes and they didnt come here to kill people on a mass basis under the spell of a cult.

Well there was the eradication of the American Indian in the name of something. Expansion? The queen? But I'm sure that was someone else's ancestors.

Sorry Deb, but how far back do we go? It may of been his, and your, distant ancestors, but really, to keep bringing this up is like Afro-americans dragging up slavery arguments all the time - there is only so long we should need to apologise for the things our forebears did and to which we have no responsibility for. I feel no guilt whatsoever about `we` did when the British empire pretty much had its finger in every cultural pie on earth. Its a bit like me blaming modern day Germans for the holocaust - and that was only, what, 65 years ago?
To add a bit of controversy to the proceedings - sometimes certain races/religions etc benefit from having these things to drag up from time to time - I know several black people who have admitted to me that playing "The Black Card" has gotten them benefits in certain situations over their white colleagues - hell I can`t even complain about it as they could quite easily pull "The Black Card" on me and lets face it, no one wants the Racism gun aimed at them.

Message edited by author 2010-11-27 15:38:58.

RayEthier

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

11/27/2010 04:34:18 PM · #111

Originally posted by Simms:

Originally posted by Melethia:

Originally posted by photodude:
Yes and they didnt come here to kill people on a mass basis under the spell of a cult.

Well there was the eradication of the American Indian in the name of something. Expansion? The queen? But I'm sure that was someone else's ancestors.

Sorry Deb, but how far back do we go?

I cannot speak for Deb, but I hardly believe the timeline was the issue as much as the fact that acts of this nature are not the sole domain of Muslims. It could be argued that all of us are capable of outrageous acts and that it is folly to suggest that any specific group has a corner on that market.

This is my view on the matter, but best you ask

Melethia directly.

Ray

Simms

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

11/27/2010 05:04:00 PM · #112

Originally posted by RayEthier:

This is my view on the matter, but best you ask Melethia directly.

Ray

Erm, I was... when I said "Sorry Deb, but how far back do we go?"

Message edited by author 2010-11-27 17:04:33.

RayEthier

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

11/27/2010 05:08:39 PM · #113

Originally posted by Simms:

Originally posted by RayEthier:

This is my view on the matter, but best you ask Melethia directly.

Ray

Erm, I was... when I said "Sorry Deb, but how far back do we go?"

... Indeed, but did you ask her what I specifically made mention of, which was the following:

"I cannot speak for Deb, but I hardly believe the timeline was the issue as much as the fact that acts of this nature are not the sole domain of Muslims."

Ray

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

11/27/2010 05:28:33 PM · #114

Yep, not a "guilt" thing, but a "cast the first stone" kinda thing. Baby, bath water, etc. No race cards, no nothing. Just don't play God unless you are.

Originally posted by Simms:

Its a bit like me blaming modern day Germans for the holocaust - and that was only, what, 65 years ago?

And yeah, that's kind of my point. We can't "blame" (or ban) Muslims for the acts of extremists, unless it's OK to blame everyone else for everything their relatives or religion ever did. Gotta wonder about that whole Spanish Inquisition and the comfy chair....

Message edited by author 2010-11-27 17:53:54.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

11/27/2010 06:10:59 PM · #115

Originally posted by photodude:

Yes and they didnt come here to kill people on a mass basis under the spell of a cult.

No, only their belief that they were superior to the natives and all of that other "Manifest Destiny" BS

Or maybe you prefer to discuss the "conversion" of the Native Americans to "Christianity" by the missionaries, or the deliberate infection of the same Native tribes by trading smallpox infested blankets and other goods to them. All to conquer a continent of "savages".

Message edited by author 2010-11-27 18:17:22.

K3Master

Pentax K-3

Pentax D-FA* 70-200mm f/2.8 ED DC AW

11/27/2010 06:25:34 PM · #116

Originally posted by Jac:

Originally posted by Melethia:

Originally posted by photodude:
A real movement there.

Again we arent being groped to get on planes to protect ourselves from them.

No one likes the groping. Well, OK, there are probably a few with a few beers under their belt that find it amusing. No one wants to go through all that shit to fly. I don't. I also don't want to live in a country where after all we've been through to get to where we are, we suddenly revert to judging a man by the color of his skin or the style of his dress. How sad is that?

'suddenly revert to' ?

Too late. Embarrassingly clear is that this technique works. If you target Arabs you will eventually find a terrorist just as if you target white males and screen their laptops for images of nude children you will end up catching a pedophile. Target Italians and you'll eventually find someone who has had dealings with the Italian mafia. It's insulting and degrading to have to go through that but it seems to be the most effective way to find these undesirable people. Think of how many terrorists that do not try to cross a border in fear they'll be targeted for questioning.

Uh, it is in no way "embarrassingly clear". The technique doesn't work. The only thing it does is inconvenience (and sometimes brutally) innocent people while causing the guilty to simply find some other way. It's a path to tyranny and totalitarianism in the name of false security and band-aid pacification of artificially inflated fears.