I'm HIGH on my score! And pretty KEYed up, too!

Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro for Canon

09/20/2010 10:11:10 AM · #28

My score is falling too.

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I stopped voting at 29% because I think the majority of these don't truly suit the challenge. I looked up online, the definition of high key and they are all what I believe, but the voters here disagree. LOL

pixelpig

Sony Alpha a55

Sony DT 1.8/50mm SAM

09/20/2010 10:21:13 AM · #29

This is an interesting challenge to look through. I do believe I might've learned something. High key lighting is a way of setting up the lights in a studio or on a traditional sit-com set. That was no big deal to read up on. A high-key photograph is a little different because you're looking at the photograph, the end product, not talking about the lighting. Then I had this aha moment. A high-key photograph is one from which all but the most essential shadows have been eliminated. A low-key photograph is one from which all but the most essential highlights have been eliminated. So, I feel like I've figured it out, at least for me. Thank you for giving me all those lovely photos to study & vote on!

MinsoPhoto

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Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

09/20/2010 10:40:01 AM · #30

Originally posted by jminso:

Best start I have had in awhile.

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ouch

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Tammster

Canon EOS-60D

09/20/2010 10:52:35 AM · #31

Originally posted by Tammster:

Originally posted by Tammster:

Originally posted by vawendy:
I've been getting a lot of 4s. Still a happy score -- but I wish it wouldn't drop so fast -- it was incredibly fun being up in dreamland :D

My score was 6.2ish and just received 2 4s in a row (or could be a 5 and a 3). My score has also dropped pretty sharply in the last two hours.

Make that 3 4s in a row!!!!

Guess it's not as good as I thought. Just got my 4th 4 in a row. >:-\

Voigtlander Ultron 35mm f/1.7 Aspherical MF Wide Angle - Black

09/20/2010 11:01:51 AM · #32

I believe that high key is where the majority of tones are above the 50% grey. It doesn't mean that you can't have a shadow or two or some darker tones, but that the majority of the image is over 50% grey and the highlights aren't heavily blown.

I haven't looked at everything yet, but it seems to me that most of the photos fit the challenge perfectly fine.

Jutilda, when/if you're done voting, I'd be curious if you thought mine fit the challenge.

Still dropping by big amounts -- man, those 2s hurt a score!

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Paul

Leica SL

09/20/2010 12:07:29 PM · #33

Originally posted by vawendy:

I agree in that I think many of them may have histograms that would fit the description we have been given; whether all of the images have been crafted in such a way that high-key is a good fit for their subject matter and manages to look optimised is another matter entirely!

If I'm honest, I don't think they're a particularly attractive set of images. At my first scoring pass I've given 4.95 with five 8s but nothing above. I always do a second look through and recast which tends to bump the higher scoring images a little.

I suppose I'm looking for images that look as if the approach to crafting the image has gone beyond increasing exposure and/or brightness and then recovering the highlights. In the final analysis the images should look great fulfilling the challenge brief, not just meet the challenge brief.

Do I ask for too much??

Apologies for my slightly grumpy demeanour! :-)

KristinaG

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09/20/2010 12:10:30 PM · #34

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From a 6.5 at 10 votes to THIS? Holy Smokes this sucks

odriew

Fujifilm X-T5

Fujifilm XF 35mm f/1.4

09/20/2010 02:10:19 PM · #35

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I'm really really surprised it's doing this horribly. I don't think it's that bad. o_O

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Sony 16-35mm f/4 Vario-Tessar T* FE ZA OSS Lens

09/20/2010 02:16:47 PM · #36

Originally posted by paulbtlw:

Originally posted by vawendy:
I believe that high key is where the majority of tones are above the 50% grey. It doesn't mean that you can't have a shadow or two or some darker tones, but that the majority of the image is over 50% grey and the highlights aren't heavily blown.

I haven't looked at everything yet, but it seems to me that most of the photos fit the challenge perfectly fine.

I agree in that I think many of them may have histograms that would fit the description we have been given; whether all of the images have been crafted in such a way that high-key is a good fit for their subject matter and manages to look optimised is another matter entirely!

If I'm honest, I don't think they're a particularly attractive set of images. At my first scoring pass I've given 4.95 with five 8s but nothing above. I always do a second look through and recast which tends to bump the higher scoring images a little.

I suppose I'm looking for images that look as if the approach to crafting the image has gone beyond increasing exposure and/or brightness and then recovering the highlights. In the final analysis the images should look great fulfilling the challenge brief, not just meet the challenge brief.

Do I ask for too much??

Apologies for my slightly grumpy demeanour! :-)

Hey!! The challenge description didn't say they had to be good, only that they had to be high key! Wanting effective images... geesh, you're getting so picky! :P

Chandi

Sony Alpha a7R II

09/20/2010 02:43:03 PM · #37

Originally posted by Chandi:

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Do we really have to vote for 7 days? Me thinks 1 hour is good enough.

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Very nice comments - more than offset the continuing drop in score. Still hoping for a top-20 finish.

Panasonic LUMIX DMC-LX100

09/20/2010 02:45:03 PM · #38

Originally posted by Chandi:

Originally posted by Chandi:
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Do we really have to vote for 7 days? Me thinks 1 hour is good enough.

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Very nice comments - more than offset the continuing drop in score. Still hoping for a top-20 finish.

sweet! You're holding on to yours! Congrats!! I dropped from 7.35 at 20 votes to 6.4 now, and I still seem to be sliding. Hope yours has a better fate. :)

chipuc

09/20/2010 02:47:27 PM · #39

Dropped from 7.4 but still doing well.

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michelaudette

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

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09/20/2010 02:59:43 PM · #40

All I see are B&W pictures! Doesn't that defeat the idea of Hi Key, or in other word "Above medium" tones? Maybe, Im complaining because my score is not so nice...
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Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

09/20/2010 03:04:21 PM · #41

Originally posted by michelaudette:

I don't understand why b&w would negate high key... There's still above medium and below medium tones regardless of whether it's color or b&w. Perhaps I'm not understanding your comment?

low key B&W

high key B&W

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fotomann_forever

09/20/2010 03:13:18 PM · #42

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Wouldn't call it high, but at least it seems pretty consistent.

fotomann_forever

09/20/2010 03:15:28 PM · #43

Originally posted by michelaudette:

All I see are B&W pictures! Doesn't that defeat the idea of Hi Key,

No, considering that the technique of high key was popularized by black and white television to reduce contrast to a level the systems could accommodate, black and white is the norm, not the exception.

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Rmac

Nikon D4s

09/20/2010 04:25:35 PM · #44

To be quite honest I'm a little baffled..My entry started out with 4 of the first 5 votes at 8 or better, then has dropped like a stone after 15 votes..But on the bright side I have gotten some great comments, two of which are from very respected members that have more ribbons than I could win in three life times, that agree with my thinking on the image. I think I have lost the ability to produce a DPC friendly image..

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

09/20/2010 06:18:03 PM · #45

Mine has dropped 1.05 since this morning at 20 votes. It just keeps going down, down, down, down...

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Rmac

Nikon D4s

09/20/2010 06:39:09 PM · #46

Originally posted by vawendy:

Mine has dropped 1.05 since this morning at 20 votes. It just keeps going down, down, down, down...

Started at 8, went to 7.66 after 4 votes and then held at 6.5-6.6 until about 30 votes...Now....

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Tammster

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09/20/2010 08:43:22 PM · #47

It's just baffling. This entry has dropped steadily all day. I think only one or two votes were higher than the score. My underexposed entry, which at day 2 and 3 was at a steady 4.8-4.9, is now creeping up to 5.6.

BrianR

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/20/2010 08:46:20 PM · #48

A high key photograph is one where the overwhelming majority of the tones in the image are above middle gray (including any shadows) yet still maintains detail even in the brightest areas of the subject. Your challenge is to carefully control your lighting and exposure to capture an interesting photo that meets the above definition of "high key". Remember, "high key" does not mean "washed out" or "blown highlights".

There appears to be a dual understanding of "High Key Photography"

It is not 'light on white' with major overexposed and and blown highlights.

Voters should google "High Key Photograhpy" and possibly find they are down scoring photos because they believe they do not meet thier understanding of High Key.

To me most of the submissions do not have enough detail in highlight areas, but are probably scoring well because of this misunderstanding.

You have rated 96 of 96 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 30 of 96 images (31%) in this challenge.

You have given an average score of 5.1667.

edited to add voting

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CJinCA

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

09/20/2010 09:07:54 PM · #49

Originally posted by Tammster:

I'm baffled too Tammy. I really thought mine was a good, or at the very least an average, high key image. I guess my idea and the voters' ideas are vastly different as I'm struggling to stay above a 5. Sitting at 5.18xx now but hoping for some voters who see high key my way. :-D