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10/05/2010 09:28:46 PM · #76 |
Originally posted by pixelpig:
A random sampling of those people would turn up how many who know what happened August 5, 1945? |
Well, I don't suppose many people would know what happened on August 5, 1945, but most will know about the following day.
One of the reasons for dropping the bombs, rightly or wrongly, was the realisation that - after the hard slog that was the Battle of Okinawa - a land war throughout the main islands of Japan would have taken a very long time with perhaps many more deaths than the bombings produced.
Message edited by author 2010-10-06 00:25:39. |
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10/05/2010 09:46:14 PM · #77 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
Look at the US. This country. after 9/11 there was a lot of patriotism, lots of hoohah and brovado, but how many of us were really ready to go to war. I mean enlisting, not just "supporting the war". Sure we talked a big game, but those who enlisted were either career military men and women, those who didn't have many other options in life or young men and women looking for a purpose.
Those of us with good jobs and families couldn't be bothered. Why? Because we have more meaningful things to do than to fight and kill each other. |
That's bullshit. I have a family, and a good job...the only reason I didn't enlist and head downrange after 9/11 is that I have a non-waiverable physical condition that I didn't discover until the Med screening at MEPS. I would have been just ahead of the age limit that was in place at the time. I know plenty of others who stepped up and enlisted, re-enlisted or who were in the reserves who requested activation... Professionals...Lawyers, engineers, doctors etc. People with lives and good jobs. |
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02/09/2011 11:25:27 AM · #78 |
after invading two defenseless nations, we should then produce a list of usa atrocities to match yours? our permanent war footing and empire building since WW2 caused each and every one of you items AND a longer, much longer, list of dead maimed and displaced in afghanistan and iraq. and it continues as I write. sadly our actions are not even in the morally bankrupt eye for an eye category - simply hubris, empire and the zeal to secure "usa interests" (read oil and other resources we want to take and control). we treat every crime as a chance for war. the old cliche comes to mind: when your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. sad.
Originally posted by wingyisleeds:
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Here are 3,497 reason's why it should not be forgotten:
In total 3,497 people died in the attacks on 11 September 2001.
2,735 civilians in the World Trade Center died
87 passengers and crew members aboard American Airlines Flight 11 that hit the North Tower
60 passengers and crew aboard United Flight 175 that hit the South Tower
343 New York City firefighters and rescue workers and 23 New York City law enforcement officers, 47 Port Authority workers and 37 Port Authority Police Officers, lost their lives when they rushed in to save the victims in the World Trade Center
36 passengers and crew aboard United Flight 93, who gave their lives stopping four hijackers over Pennsylvania
64 passengers and crew aboard American Airlines Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon, killing them and 125 people in the building.
In addition
19 - the terrorists who hijacked four airliners and murdered 3,497 people - also died. |
And the total number of deaths keep accumulating from that day. How many thousands of military personnel have the US lost (and been permanently maimed) since 911 in Iraq and Afghanistan, all in the name of fighting the terrorists? And nine years later we feel how much safer? Maybe this is what K10guy meant. |
Not just US personnel Olyuzi,....21 other countries lost military personnel as part of the coalition forces and also dont forget Afghan civilians killed(8,800) and Iraqi civilians(860,000) killed since the start of the conflicts also.. |
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02/09/2011 11:39:07 AM · #79 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Look at the US. This country. after 9/11 there was a lot of patriotism, lots of hoohah and brovado, but how many of us were really ready to go to war. I mean enlisting, not just "supporting the war". Sure we talked a big game, but those who enlisted were either career military men and women, those who didn't have many other options in life or young men and women looking for a purpose.
Those of us with good jobs and families couldn't be bothered. Why? Because we have more meaningful things to do than to fight and kill each other. |
That's bullshit. I have a family, and a good job...the only reason I didn't enlist and head downrange after 9/11 is that I have a non-waiverable physical condition that I didn't discover until the Med screening at MEPS. I would have been just ahead of the age limit that was in place at the time. I know plenty of others who stepped up and enlisted, re-enlisted or who were in the reserves who requested activation... Professionals...Lawyers, engineers, doctors etc. People with lives and good jobs. |
there are exceptions. |
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