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 06/25/2004 11:36:23 PM · #76
No.
 06/26/2004 02:59:40 AM · #77
Whenever people say it's too biased, you have to realize that it's out there to BALANCE what the media puts out week in / week out. There's no need to say the other side, since everyone already knows it watching the news, reading the paper etc.
 06/26/2004 08:46:12 AM · #78
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
Originally posted by Fibre Optix:
LOL! Fox News???

I thought Fox news was worse than CNN. In fact i read a study were .... wait let me see if I can find that article in Time Mag.... oh ya here it is ...

"Previous studies have shown Fox News viewers were uniquely ill-informed about WMDs, al-Qaeda presence in Iraq and Iraqi involvement in 9/11."

Any Way bud you have the right to choose, I'm not criticizing your choice, I'm just surprised, that's all.



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Gordon was not being serious...he was being facetious and sarcastic.


Not really. No other news station in the US has the right to claim to be fair and balanced(tm). FOX'll sue them if they do...
 06/26/2004 10:41:48 AM · #79
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
Originally posted by Fibre Optix:
LOL! Fox News???

I thought Fox news was worse than CNN. In fact i read a study were .... wait let me see if I can find that article in Time Mag.... oh ya here it is ...

"Previous studies have shown Fox News viewers were uniquely ill-informed about WMDs, al-Qaeda presence in Iraq and Iraqi involvement in 9/11."

Any Way bud you have the right to choose, I'm not criticizing your choice, I'm just surprised, that's all.



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Gordon was not being serious...he was being facetious and sarcastic.


Not really. No other news station in the US has the right to claim to be fair and balanced(tm). FOX'll sue them if they do...


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Fox already tried to sue Al Franken unsuccessfully for using the term but had to drop the lawsuit when the judge said that the lawsuit was "wholly without merit" and "trying to undermine the first amendment."
 06/26/2004 01:18:22 PM · #80
Will I go?

Nope.

Why waste $8 and 3 hours to watch someone promote their own political agenda? This is an election year, isn't there already enough of that going around?




06/26/2004 01:34:28 PM · #81
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Why waste $8 and 3 hours to watch someone promote their own political agenda?


Why? So that you can see what all sides are saying and reach an objective conclusion for yourself instead of relying on second hand opinions.
 06/26/2004 01:43:01 PM · #82
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Why waste $8 and 3 hours to watch someone promote their own political agenda?


Why? So that you can see what all sides are saying and reach an objective conclusion for yourself instead of relying on second hand opinions.


I suppose that would be a good reason, assuming that I thought Michael Moore's opinion was worth $8 and 3 hrs. If you think it is, go ahead. I can find something better to do with my time and money. If I want to watch the political machine grind its wheels, CSPAN is on 24/7.
 06/26/2004 02:00:15 PM · #83
If you think Michael Moore's movies are based in fact, you may want to check out this article. It is ridiculous that Bowling For Columbine won an Oscar for "Best Documentary". It is a work of fiction and the fact that it won undermines real documentary filmmakers.

Also check out //www.moorelies.com and //www.mooreexposed.com

This movie also looks interesting: //www.MichaelMooreHatesAmerica.com

Message edited by author 2004-06-26 14:02:27.
 06/26/2004 03:17:44 PM · #84
Originally posted by jadin:
Whenever people say it's too biased, you have to realize that it's out there to BALANCE what the media puts out week in / week out. There's no need to say the other side, since everyone already knows it watching the news, reading the paper etc.


good call
 06/26/2004 03:19:17 PM · #85
Originally posted by EddyG:
If you think Michael Moore's movies are based in fact, you may want to check out this article. It is ridiculous that Bowling For Columbine won an Oscar for "Best Documentary". It is a work of fiction and the fact that it won undermines real documentary filmmakers.

Also check out //www.moorelies.com and //www.mooreexposed.com

This movie also looks interesting: //www.MichaelMooreHatesAmerica.com


ya there are even more sites out there than that. and 2 movies coming out later this year attempting to stifle moore.

so if he is so full of shit, why all these people spending millions trying to shut him up and discredit him?

hmm
 06/26/2004 03:26:50 PM · #86
because he is so full of shit and needs to be stiffeled.
Can't you see it?
06/26/2004 03:32:04 PM · #87
acording to free speech, nobody needs stifled. but then again i read this recently that seems to apply..

"Everybody loves free speech - Until you use free speech."
 06/26/2004 03:41:40 PM · #88
Can we speak freely but less crudely so this can stay OUT of the Rant forum for a change? Even there, we are starting to take a dim view of the increasing level of profanity and slanderous statements ... if a reaction by the site admins is triggered it may be "extraordinary" but it won't be pretty ...

Originally posted by drewmedia:
To everyone involved in this situation:

This has gotten out of hand. Drop it now, preferrably removing anything you've done that one might consider rude. Further action may result in suspension. Consider this your warning :)


From this thread, among others.
 06/26/2004 04:23:58 PM · #89
Originally posted by EddyG:
If you think Michael Moore's movies are based in fact, you may want to check out this article. It is ridiculous that Bowling For Columbine won an Oscar for "Best Documentary". It is a work of fiction and the fact that it won undermines real documentary filmmakers.


Just for the fair and balanced perspective, Moore's response

//www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/index.php
 06/26/2004 04:29:13 PM · #90
in the midst of all teh controversy surrounding this movie and the war in Iraq - I think I'll take a vacation.

oh, no, I'm sorry- thats George W. Bush.

I'm sorry is this ranting; let me go take a picture with a patriotic bent to it! this is art- artists typically rant at all times and rebel against the regime!

Message edited by author 2004-06-26 16:31:53.
 06/26/2004 11:17:09 PM · #91
[quote=EddyG] If you think Michael Moore's movies are based in fact, you may want to check out this article. It is ridiculous that Bowling For Columbine won an Oscar for "Best Documentary". It is a work of fiction and the fact that it won undermines real documentary filmmakers.[quote]

EddyG,

Thank you for posting those links. Although they are unlikely to change any minds, I can personally attest to the "accuracy" of the message in "check out this article". Being born and raised in Flint, Mi. I have a unique perspective on Mr. Moore. I have listened to him at local union halls and watched in amazement as he rose to "star" status....for "mis-representing" the facts. I am familiar with the Kayla shooting and attended the Heston rally at what was then the IMA.

I understand that many do not share my perspective and choose to see Mr. Moore's film's as an "expose'" of TRUTH. They are simply wrong.

For those that choose to give their money to his endeavers, well....that is their right. But person's are terribly mis-guided if they believe that Mr. Moore is interested in creating a fact finding documentary. His talent lies in the ability to gather a large volume of material and weave a story from it. At its very best it might qualify as entertainment. At its worst, it is representative of all the evil that his film's attempt to expose. Flim flam and half truths wrapped in an emotionally charged package that incites the veiwer toward conclusions that are miles out of context.

Unfortunately, Mr. Moore has much company. From false claims of victimhood by certain groups, to false claims of imminent threats from a rogue government, to false claims of a "coalition", to false claims of evidence against an innocent accused of a criminal act, and the injustices go on and on. The fact that there is so much falsehood espewed as fact does not excuse ANY participant. Lying is lying, no matter what your politics/faith/moral code. Mephistopheles is the proud owner of many souls.

Flash

06/26/2004 11:36:50 PM · #92
Thanks for the link that clears up alot. All that splitting of audio and video to make it seem like one thing when it was'nt exaclty the way it went down orignally at all does put a completely different perspective. I guess Bowling for Colombine was way off.

I was beging to think there was a problem with America and Guns.

Whew .

Message edited by author 2004-06-26 23:40:19.
 06/26/2004 11:42:26 PM · #93
There is about as much truth in this movie as a joseph goebbels nazi propaganda film.

35 million people have been freed, and all moore can do is complain.
 06/27/2004 12:04:02 AM · #94
freed

Fact: Ben Fitz also noted that Bowling's editors didn't bother to research the events before doctoring the ads. Horton's second arrest was not for murder. (The second set of charges were aggravated assault and rape).

Are you for real? This was from that link, "truth about bowling for columbine". This is what is used to debunk moore's "facts"???

You're right, he was wrong, he didn't murder again, HE RAPED AND ASSAULTED! How very non-criminal of him. It's very good that we call bowling for columbine full of lies and spin such as exchanging "rape and assalut" for "murder". I guess the whole movie is wrong now.

I hope you people nitpick the news as much as you do movies.

Message edited by author 2004-06-27 00:11:10.
 06/27/2004 12:05:22 AM · #95
I am definetly going to see this movie. Moore must be on to something if he receives all this hatred from right-wings nu^H^H people. :)
 06/27/2004 12:17:41 AM · #96
I am not sure what the FREED link really means, but I can assure you they are not chopping of the heads of people like Al Qaeda now in Iraq.

And you know what 3 more will die at the hands of Al Qaeda members.//cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?flok=FF-APO-1107&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040626%2F1654344109.htm&sc=1107&photoid=20040626LON817&floc=NW_1-I
 06/27/2004 12:27:55 AM · #97
Originally posted by Riggs:
I am not sure what the FREED link really means, but I can assure you they are not chopping of the heads of people like Al Qaeda now in Iraq.

And you know what 3 more will die at the hands of Al Qaeda members.


You're right those people are free. Free to murder 3 more people. It's very encouraging to see all the men, women and children slain have brought peace to a society who deserves it so very much after all these years.

I can't say this enough. Humanitarian's who are trying to free people do not use depleted uranium shells. Way to free the Iraqi people. With land minds!
 06/27/2004 12:36:58 AM · #98
Hey, I thought Bush was too religious? In fact so steeped in religion a lot of people couldn̢۪t vote for him? But then HIS family was tied to the Nazi̢۪s during WW11 and that does not sound like a religious family to me. But then he is tied to the Saudis and by inference Al Qaeda and that group is not exactly Christian is it? I always thought turning the cheek not lobbing off heads was the right thing to do. It seems to me there are a lot of false beliefs being thrown out there and some of them stick to one group or another in the typical fashion the people behind elections provoke people to vote one way or the other. It is another election year and the garbage again is unbearable to stomach.
 06/27/2004 12:42:49 AM · #99
Originally posted by Riggs:
I am not sure what the FREED link really means, but I can assure you they are not chopping of the heads of people like Al Qaeda now in Iraq.

And you know what 3 more will die at the hands of Al Qaeda members.//cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?flok=FF-APO-1107&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040626%2F1654344109.htm&sc=1107&photoid=20040626LON817&floc=NW_1-I


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Violence breeds violence.
 06/27/2004 12:44:58 AM · #100
Originally posted by EddyG:
If you think Michael Moore's movies are based in fact, you may want to check out this article. It is ridiculous that Bowling For Columbine won an Oscar for "Best Documentary". It is a work of fiction and the fact that it won undermines real documentary filmmakers.

Also check out //www.moorelies.com and //www.mooreexposed.com

This movie also looks interesting: //www.MichaelMooreHatesAmerica.com


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And I'll bet those web sites are funded by the NRA.
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