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Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.8D

06/26/2010 10:36:14 PM · #51

Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:

And for what it's worth, out of all the re-edited versions posted here i still prefer the original. Maybe just slightly increase the contrast. I know thats not what you or your customer was asking though

Thanks clive. She just sent me an email. Her favorites were Elpaso's and

which was mine.

shes going to use them both. Shes using his in the scrapbook and mine in a calendar for the month of june. Shes very happy.

SEG

Nikon D7100

06/26/2010 10:50:16 PM · #52

Hahn you need to chill out. People can't even critique your images without getting the "you don't know what your talking about speech." You take great images and noone can take that from you just try not to be so damn harsh on people who are trying to learn something about what they are doing.

That being said I think Bear's edit works perfectly. One small touch that I added was cloning out the background distractions. That stupid whale kept bothering me. LOL

06/26/2010 10:56:12 PM · #53

Originally posted by SEG:

LMFAO @ stupid whale!! that bugsy and its his favorite lmfao!! u killed him!!

she got the images and is very happy now but thank you!!!

rooum

06/26/2010 10:58:01 PM · #54

Originally posted by SEG:

One small touch that I added was cloning out the background distractions. That stupid whale kept bothering me. LOL

No way! That little whale was one of the great parts that pulled the photo together!!

rooum

06/26/2010 10:59:05 PM · #55

I loved the whale! If it wasn't there the photo would so drop from an 8 to a 6 in my eyes!

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

06/26/2010 11:00:11 PM · #56

Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:

I loved the whale! If it wasn't there the photo would so drop from an 8 to a 6 in my eyes!

She only got Whale included photos! LOL

jotaga

Canon EOS-7D

06/26/2010 11:03:33 PM · #57

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by chromeydome:

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by chromeydome:

Originally posted by hahn23:

Hey, thanks for that. I'll exit the discussion now. Good job! I didn't know this was a mollycoddle only thread.

It is a Request for Assistance thread....

And, the advice I gave was constructive comment, with specific advice for better results on the re-shoot. What are the rest of you doing?

The REQUEST was for Assistance on THIS image, as the client really wants it. What request for arrogant "Do it right in the first place" and "debacle" comments did you read, and how do they help with This Image which the Client Wants?

Yeah, trash that image. Do better next time. Sorry, it's a tough world out there. The sooner a photographer learns that, the better.

Hey hahn!! Is this some kind of revenge?

If I remember, your were the guy upset because what people said about your picture....

giantmike

Canon EOS R6

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM

06/26/2010 11:04:56 PM · #58

Originally posted by odriew:

Gaussian blur, USM and some cross-processing

This is by far my favorite edit of any posted thus far. Well done Jay.

Yo_Spiff

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

06/26/2010 11:05:34 PM · #59

Well, I waiting as long as possible for the master to show up, but he must be out taking pictures or something. In keeping with a long standing DPC tradition, I took some liberties and improved the shot a bit.

jotaga

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

06/26/2010 11:07:29 PM · #60

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

The mother will not like this one...

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

06/26/2010 11:16:38 PM · #61

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chromeydome

Nikon D7000

06/26/2010 11:19:32 PM · #62

Originally posted by JustCaree:

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Well, I waiting as long as possible for the master to show up, but he must be out taking pictures or something. In keeping with a long standing DPC tradition, I took some liberties and improved the shot a bit.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

or, to be more technically correct: ROFLMAO!*

It's "Art" !

ace flyman

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

06/26/2010 11:32:13 PM · #63

Don't have any suggestions, but left you a comment for next time.

cdn1

Canon EOS-7D Mark II

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

06/27/2010 12:11:10 AM · #64

Hey Caree, consider this a learning experience. Always be ready to get the shot. Check all settings in your camera before the shoot, and adjust when necessary. So you missed the shot, no big deal, if I had a nickel for every missed shot..dammm I'd be rich. Just tell the client, sorry you can't fix it, and move on!

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

06/27/2010 12:33:14 AM · #65

Originally posted by cdn1:

shes very happy with the several edits we have provided.

smardaz

06/27/2010 12:41:33 AM · #66

Originally posted by JustCaree:

shes very happy with the several edits we have provided.

glad to hear it ended nicely for you and her..

on another note, this place is really starting to bum me out lately......

Message edited by author 2010-06-27 00:41:45.

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

06/27/2010 01:07:14 AM · #67

Originally posted by JustCaree:

The point I am trying to make. And the reason I am so upset is that this isn't meant to be "photography". This was a moment I saw and tried to capture. A snapshot. Something non professional. She got excited and asked to see it on the spot. I said I didn't catch it right. She sighed and said oh well. We tried to make him jump in again. He wouldn't. This was not a planned image or a planned shot. It was a precious child being cute and I just happened to have a camera in my hand. I was half in the pool half out of the pool. I acted quickly JUST because it was so darn cute. The client knew the shot did not turn out right but simply asked if I would make the best of it for her scrapbook. My extra editting skills suck so - thought of u guys.

Personally, I think it's a pretty crappy image... And I think you did a wonderful job getting it... Most people would have missed that one 100%.. You only missed it about 10% :)

In all honesty, it's highly imperfect, but so are most of our loved ones, so what the hell is wrong with a well liked image that is very imperfect? Nothing in my book... It's just not DPC material..

So, congrats on the lightning reflexes there, and as a though, practice motion panning shots, that could have been GREAT if you had followed the kiddo's arc.. Motion blur on the BG is highly desirable if you can keep the subject relatively blur free.. :)

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

06/27/2010 01:28:21 AM · #68

Originally posted by coryboehne:

Originally posted by JustCaree:
The point I am trying to make. And the reason I am so upset is that this isn't meant to be "photography". This was a moment I saw and tried to capture. A snapshot. Something non professional. She got excited and asked to see it on the spot. I said I didn't catch it right. She sighed and said oh well. We tried to make him jump in again. He wouldn't. This was not a planned image or a planned shot. It was a precious child being cute and I just happened to have a camera in my hand. I was half in the pool half out of the pool. I acted quickly JUST because it was so darn cute. The client knew the shot did not turn out right but simply asked if I would make the best of it for her scrapbook. My extra editting skills suck so - thought of u guys.

Personally, I think it's a pretty crappy image... And I think you did a wonderful job getting it... Most people would have missed that one 100%.. You only missed it about 10% :)

In all honesty, it's highly imperfect, but so are most of our loved ones, so what the hell is wrong with a well liked image that is very imperfect? Nothing in my book... It's just not DPC material..

So, congrats on the lightning reflexes there, and as a though, practice motion panning shots, that could have been GREAT if you had followed the kiddo's arc.. Motion blur on the BG is highly desirable if you can keep the subject relatively blur free.. :)

Thank you Cory and I agree 110%

ETA: Umm can you teach me about panning shots??

Message edited by author 2010-06-27 01:28:51.

Citadel

Nikon D7500

06/27/2010 01:37:37 AM · #69

there are three things you need for panning shots

1) Practice
2) Practice
3) Cheese...or practice. your choice.

The subject can't be too close (hard to keep up to it as its moving too fast in relation to you) or too far away (doesn't move far enough during the exposure). If you can prefocus where you anticipate the object being it helps too. (usually straight in front of you is easiest).

Lens selection is based on the distance to the subject and the size of the subject. If you can prefocus where the object is going to be when you snap

Don't try to do a pan in near darkness. My first attempt failed miserably because of this. Really you just need to practice. Go to a busy road or bike path and fill a card up. :)

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

06/27/2010 01:39:07 AM · #70

Originally posted by JustCaree:

Originally posted by coryboehne:

Originally posted by JustCaree:
The point I am trying to make. And the reason I am so upset is that this isn't meant to be "photography". This was a moment I saw and tried to capture. A snapshot. Something non professional. She got excited and asked to see it on the spot. I said I didn't catch it right. She sighed and said oh well. We tried to make him jump in again. He wouldn't. This was not a planned image or a planned shot. It was a precious child being cute and I just happened to have a camera in my hand. I was half in the pool half out of the pool. I acted quickly JUST because it was so darn cute. The client knew the shot did not turn out right but simply asked if I would make the best of it for her scrapbook. My extra editting skills suck so - thought of u guys.

Personally, I think it's a pretty crappy image... And I think you did a wonderful job getting it... Most people would have missed that one 100%.. You only missed it about 10% :)

In all honesty, it's highly imperfect, but so are most of our loved ones, so what the hell is wrong with a well liked image that is very imperfect? Nothing in my book... It's just not DPC material..

So, congrats on the lightning reflexes there, and as a though, practice motion panning shots, that could have been GREAT if you had followed the kiddo's arc.. Motion blur on the BG is highly desirable if you can keep the subject relatively blur free.. :)

Thank you Cory and I agree 110%

ETA: Umm can you teach me about panning shots??

The idea is simple.. In practice? Not so super easy..

So in effect the idea is to smoothly follow the motion of your subject while shooting, this leads to a background that shows motion, while the subject remains sharp.

Motor Sports, skiers/snowboarders, flying objects (your subject in this case), basically anything that follows a smooth and predictable path is a good candidate.

The idea is to keep one of your AF points in EXACTLY the same place on your subject as it moves... I find that for most shots a shutter speed of about 1/30 is great, faster objects can give good results at up to about 1/100 and slower objects may need a shutter speed of about 1/8 to get the blur you want..

Make sense?

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

06/27/2010 01:45:36 AM · #71

Originally posted by coryboehne:

Originally posted by JustCaree:

Thank you Cory and I agree 110%

ETA: Umm can you teach me about panning shots??

The idea is simple.. In practice? Not so super easy..

So in effect the idea is to smoothly follow the motion of your subject while shooting, this leads to a background that shows motion, while the subject remains sharp.

Motor Sports, skiers/snowboarders, flying objects (your subject in this case), basically anything that follows a smooth and predictable path is a good candidate.

The idea is to keep one of your AF points in EXACTLY the same place on your subject as it moves... I find that for most shots a shutter speed of about 1/30 is great, faster objects can give good results at up to about 1/100 and slower objects may need a shutter speed of about 1/8 to get the blur you want..

Make sense?

Yeah makes sense... prob would be easier with my tripod (it has a rotating ball head for smooth movement) you think???

Covert_Oddity

Nikon D700

06/27/2010 01:48:37 AM · #72

I find it easier to do freehand. The trick is to follow your subject before, during and after your exposure and avoid stoping as you hit the shutter release. I took this one like that