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06/10/2010 07:58:10 AM · #1 |
| Hi my husband downloaded a copy of Photoshop CS5, I can't seem to understand how to use it, all the tutorials suggest camera raw 6.0. Do i need this? |
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06/10/2010 08:45:31 AM · #2 |
You "don't understand how to use it"...... hmmm..... could you narrow that down just a touch?
Photoshop is a terribly big subject. You might like to start with one tool at a time, play with it, and read up about it in the help files. |
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06/10/2010 09:09:18 AM · #3 |
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06/10/2010 09:34:40 AM · #4 |
I think he said "camera raw 6.0, do I need this?"
That would be the question.. and my answer would be yes. But I don't know why =) Probably so the program will work correctly when you upload raw images:P
Message edited by author 2010-06-10 09:35:06. |
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06/10/2010 11:09:33 AM · #5 |
Hi brookecoltz. I\'m new to this forum and this is my 1st post.
What I understand from your question is \"what is camera raw\" and if you need it to run Photoshop and/or to retouch your photos.
Camera Raw is a plug-in, an other software that is attached to Photoshop (included for free!). Adobe Bridge is a software that is also very useful and which comes with Photoshop, yes for free also!
One does not need Camera Raw to run Photoshop at all. However, Camera Raw should be an important part of anyone\'s work flow, and one can retouch more than just raw format images with it. It is mainly used to do \"global adjustments\" to your pictures (exposure, vignette, white balance, straitening etc...) whereas Photoshop is the operation room for details. Remember that many adjustment in Photoshop like cropping for example are often irreversible. In Camera Raw however, you can crop and go back to change your cropping at any time; same for any adjustment done in Camera Raw.
There are thousands of tutorials available, many for free; some as well structured and professional as on lynda.com, and many others can be found on youtube (there is a bit of luck involved here). Photoshop is by far the most popular photo retouching software and its possibilities are almost endless... It\'s not a program that you can master in a weekend let\'s say, but it can be lots of fun to explore and learn. Camera Raw should be a starting point before you start learning the more complex possibilities of Photoshop.
Hope this helps.
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06/10/2010 04:23:00 PM · #6 |
Never mind.
Message edited by author 2010-06-10 16:23:52. |
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06/10/2010 04:48:09 PM · #7 |
Photoshop isn't the kind of software that you can open for the first time, dabble with it a bit and figure out how to make some use of it. However on the other hand, it isn't like doing advanced algebra either... you can certainly become proficient as a self-taught user.
My advice is to sign up with lynda.com, it's 25 bucks for a month... I'm not affiliated with them, by the way, just a happy customer. You'll have unlimited access during that time to their excellent online video tutorials, and that will jump start your use and enjoyment of Photoshop.
Best of luck. |
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06/10/2010 04:59:20 PM · #8 |
| Well, today I plunked down $55 for Martin Evening's "Adobe Photoshop CS5 for Photographers". It's 2-3 inches thick and will serve as both a read and a reference. I looked up "healing brush" in three different books and Evening was by far the most thorough on explaining the why and how. Hopefully it gets me back on the horse as I'm making the big upgrade from CS2, so there's lots of new stuff for me. |
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06/10/2010 05:22:33 PM · #9 |
| I remember when I first used photoshop and added lens flare to just about every photo I could lay my hands on. |
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06/10/2010 05:25:51 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Simms:
I remember when I first used photoshop and added lens flare to just about every photo I could lay my hands on. |
Hell, I made whole images using nothing but noise, lens flares and painting tools.. :)
ETA: They were hideous!
Message edited by author 2010-06-10 17:26:17. |
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06/10/2010 09:36:56 PM · #11 |
Sorry for not explaining my question more!
What I meant to ask was I have had a look at photoshop CS5 and when I look up tutorials on the net they ALL refer back to Camera Raw 6.0, can you still do the same work on photos with just photoshop or do I need to get Camera Raw as a plug in program?
Sorry I am new to all this and I want to start working on photos I take but have no idea where to start.
But I am addicted to photography and love it! |
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06/10/2010 09:46:20 PM · #12 |
I thought the only reason to even know what version of Camera Raw you had was if you got a new camera and your version of Photoshop couldn't recognize your RAW profile. The current Camera Raw version is 6.1
Brooke, if you shoot in RAW format and your CS5 opens those RAW files fine, then I wouldn't worry about it. If you don't shoot in RAW (meaning your image files have a JPG extension, then completely ignore it.
Welcome to DPC!
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06/10/2010 09:56:21 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I looked up "healing brush" in three different books and Evening was by far the most thorough on explaining the why and how. Hopefully it gets me back on the horse as I'm making the big upgrade from CS2, so there's lots of new stuff for me. |
Bugs beware! |
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06/10/2010 10:15:41 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I looked up "healing brush" in three different books and Evening was by far the most thorough on explaining the why and how. Hopefully it gets me back on the horse as I'm making the big upgrade from CS2, so there's lots of new stuff for me. |
Bugs beware! |
Page 263: Killing a bug but making it still look alive using CS5 |
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06/10/2010 11:41:44 PM · #15 |
Hey, Doc...I'm where you are with the jump. Only difference is I never really learned how to use CS2, lol.
Share any hints you find. ;~) |
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06/10/2010 11:44:16 PM · #16 |
Oh my Goodness, I`ve never been so excited about a program in ages.
This CS5 is so fracking powerful it's nutters!
Going from CS4 to CS5 is cracked. It's off the flipping HOOK!
The only thing I don't really like is:
Niggle #1 - that if I want to OPEN an image, I have to drag it to the menu bar area or something. But I've only used photoshop itself for around half an hour.
As to awesomeness, two words: Shift Backspace.... yeah, content aware fill. Content aware scaling was a pain in the arse to use. This thing is a thing of beauty. I was only doing a quick job on the photos, but I've put together some silly pics for a class assignment and it was just so fast and easy it was great!
I've been using for three hours now but mostly in the Bridge and I'm blown AWAY by that too.
Niggle #2 - It seems like some of the options are missing from the lens corrections
However, I am IN LOVE with the new spot adjustments. Holy crap. I am now doing almost everything in bridge (working on a 1250 pic project for my classmates since today is grad day) and it has totally changed my workflow.
Before, I would use a series of passes to sort and fine tune processing, then batch them in PS, then go through again and then a final sort and check.
That has now become one pass for sorting and one pass for adjustments. All in the bridge.
Once that is done, I will hit it with the image processor and I will have a nice collection of TIFFs and JPGs to burn up.
Talk about taking a daunting project and completely removing its teeth.
BOOYEAH! CS5 FTW! |
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06/16/2010 11:14:49 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by brookecoltz:
...or do I need to get Camera Raw as a plug in program?
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No you don't, but Yes you do if you shoot in RAW format like you should always do and don't want to use DPP software that came in the box with your camera.
Camera Raw comes with Photoshop (unless you "got the program from a friend" and for some weird reason you don't have it)
To know if you need it, you must first ask yourself "what does Camera Raw will do for me". Then you can decide whether or not you need to use it.
You already have a Canon camera, therefore DPP (Digital Photo Professional) software on the CD, which you probably installed on your computer (hopefully). Therefore you can develop your .RAW pictures with that program and then export them to Photoshop directly from there (unless you shoot only in the JPG which would be sad with your type of camera).
Camera Raw you allows you to do non-destructive adjustments by exploiting all the information that was captured by the camera when you took the shot and allowing you to go back in time and change the exposure, contrast etc... DPP does that too and includes picture styles, which you won't find in Camera Raw. However, Camera Raw will let you add some vignetting, reduce color and luminance noise (how important!), brighten shadows, add more light and control each tint, shade, tone, hue, saturation, luminosity of your picture independently!
If you shoot photos in RAW format, Photoshop will first open the image in Camera Raw before allowing you to bring it to Photoshop. There is no way around it.
In my opinion, you should start using Camera Raw no matter what. You don't have to learn it; it is very intuitive and the program is design in such a way that you just have to follow the order of the menus, the same way you would read a book (top to bottom, 1 page at a time). There are no layers or mask to create as in Photoshop. It is a basic program to make corrections to your photos and develop them.
Then, when your picture is to your taste, you can save it without using Photoshop, or you can bring it into Photoshop do add filters, change the background for something else, swap the sky with another picture etc... the possibilities are almost only limited to your creativity.
Hope this helps.
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06/16/2010 02:54:26 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by brookecoltz:
Hi my husband downloaded a copy of Photoshop CS5, I can't seem to understand how to use it, all the tutorials suggest camera raw 6.0. Do i need this? |
Sorry I mentioned somewhere above that one can do Picture styles only in Canon's DPP program, not in Camera Raw. Actually that is incorrect, Camera Raw allows that, and even adds another Picture style possible: Adobe Standard (under camera calibration).
I hope that you found all the information that you needed since your last post!
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