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05/20/2010 12:53:12 PM · #1
The results of the 'A Is For _______' challenge have been recalculated, due to the disqualification of the former 2nd place image for added image area. Congrats to Yo_Spiff and ceyval on the new ribbon and HM.
05/20/2010 06:03:37 PM · #2
The image area added after rotation here allowed for a better composition than the original capture.

What the heck does this mean? She added what? More white space?

Please explain yourselves SC?

Message edited by author 2010-05-20 18:04:33.
05/20/2010 06:06:43 PM · #3
Originally posted by Jac:

The image area added after rotation here allowed for a better composition than the original capture.

What the heck does this mean? She added what? More white space?

Please explain yourselves SC?


Yup -- I'd guess it was a white border added to give the image more room.
05/20/2010 06:24:44 PM · #4
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by Jac:

The image area added after rotation here allowed for a better composition than the original capture.

What the heck does this mean? She added what? More white space?

Please explain yourselves SC?


Yup -- I'd guess it was a white border added to give the image more room.


Yes, I guess the image was rotated and white space was added to make the image rectangular again
05/20/2010 06:43:26 PM · #5
if only she had made it a border...
05/20/2010 06:51:50 PM · #6
when you rotate an image to get ideal composition, you had better leave lots of space to crop your image so that it can be square (or rectagular) again. Adding ANY canvas is going to get your entry DQ'd.
05/20/2010 06:54:50 PM · #7
Okay, so:

Let's say you have an image with a white background. You rotate it, and wind up with a dark-colored triangle starting at the middle bottom of the image, going off to the right side, where it's 10 pixels thick. You clone this out in an Advanced Editing challenge. Still a DQ?

ETA: Dark-colored triangle is part of the original image--not the edge of the canvas, i.e., empty pixel space.

Message edited by author 2010-05-20 18:55:28.
05/20/2010 06:58:34 PM · #8
Originally posted by mycelium:

Okay, so:

Let's say you have an image with a white background. You rotate it, and wind up with a dark-colored triangle starting at the middle bottom of the image, going off to the right side, where it's 10 pixels thick. You clone this out in an Advanced Editing challenge. Still a DQ?

ETA: Dark-colored triangle is part of the original image--not the edge of the canvas, i.e., empty pixel space.


In rotating your image you created that black image space that wasn't there when you took the shot. Removing it is ok with cropping, but adding to it isn't.
05/20/2010 07:02:31 PM · #9
Originally posted by Jac:

In rotating your image you created that black image space that wasn't there when you took the shot. Removing it is ok with cropping, but adding to it isn't.


No, for my example, I'm saying the black image space WAS there. I'm not talking about empty space on the image, i.e., the default PhotoShop background when there is no image data. I'm talking about, say, the edge of the table that was in your setup and was exposed by your camera sensor, but that you want to clone out of the final edit.

Message edited by author 2010-05-20 19:02:48.
05/20/2010 07:04:22 PM · #10
Had she created a white border of the same color as the backgroundwould it have been legal? How about one with a 5% grey one pixel line on the inside to mark the start of the border?
05/20/2010 07:06:10 PM · #11
yay yo_spiff you now have all ribbons one of each! iv'e always wanted to see that :)
05/20/2010 07:07:33 PM · #12
Originally posted by mycelium:

Originally posted by Jac:

In rotating your image you created that black image space that wasn't there when you took the shot. Removing it is ok with cropping, but adding to it isn't.


No, for my example, I'm saying the black image space WAS there. I'm not talking about empty space on the image, i.e., the default PhotoShop background when there is no image data. I'm talking about, say, the edge of the table that was in your setup and was exposed by your camera sensor, but that you want to clone out of the final edit.


You've offered two examples. The first, Jac responded to (correctly I might add) and the second, which is written above, is a different situation than why the red ribbon image was DQ'd. But to answer your question, as long as its not a big piece of the image, cloning out a table corner or some other unwanted part of the set up for your image, is generally ok (there are exceptions to this, but I won't go into it here)
05/20/2010 07:09:20 PM · #13
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Had she created a white border of the same color as the backgroundwould it have been legal?


No. Adding image area by way of an identically coloured border is not legal.

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

How about one with a 5% grey one pixel line on the inside to mark the start of the border?


If the border can be distinguished from the image, then its a legal border.
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