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10/28/2004 02:21:32 PM · #1
Now this is in no way me pushing politics or views on you. I just thought is was one of the most visually stong images I have seen in the campaigning so far. I have no opinoin to push here. I am just sharing a strong image.
10/28/2004 02:24:39 PM · #2
too bad it's not really a true mosaic.. it just looks like the photos are tinted to match the global photo.. looking at the bottom right, i'd have a hard time finding someone with such a blue face :)
10/28/2004 02:31:07 PM · #3
i think that's often what happens with mosaics of this type. The photos are tinted to make the composite image. I think its a very visually strong reminder.
10/28/2004 02:35:25 PM · #4
It appears to me that you could take any set of several hundred images, arrange them in rows and column, desaturate them, place them all into a single layer, then mix them with a second layer containing the image you want as a result at, say, 50% transparency.

In my opinion, without the "rendered by the faces of 1000..." phrase the image wouldn't be "visually strong" in the least. It's only strength comes when viewed in light of that phrase. Apart from that, it's just like so many other composite images.

AND, unlike the truly creative composite images that gave birth to this art form, this composite doesn't maintain photographic integrity within the individual photographs that comprise the larger image. Some faces are obviously "two-toned" and on a diagonal, at that. The earlier composite images that impressed me greatly DID maintain photographic integrity within each individual photo. In fact, THAT feature is what made them so marvelous.
10/28/2004 02:42:14 PM · #5
indeed..

At the mall, there's a store selling a mosaic from the Simpsons. The mosaic is made from frames of the cartoon, and makes a big homer head i beleive. In this case, photographic integrity was maintained (i looked, heh) but they also had an exorbitant amount of information to go from (15 seasons of 30 minute shows, 29.997 frames per second, a quick calculation gives me about 15 million frames of animation to choose from.)
10/28/2004 04:18:11 PM · #6
Sorry. Didn't mean to say the image or the mosaic in particular was strong or great photographically. I meant the message passed with the use of the mosaic was a strong message.
10/28/2004 06:04:18 PM · #7
Originally posted by G4Ds:

Sorry. Didn't mean to say the image or the mosaic in particular was strong or great photographically. I meant the message passed with the use of the mosaic was a strong message.


And indeed it is, thanks for posting.
10/28/2004 09:13:43 PM · #8
Very interesting, and moving. Did you do it G4Ds? Or did you find this somewhere?
10/28/2004 09:33:46 PM · #9
I agree with RonB, you could make any face a mosaic with messing with the color and tint of each individual image...Mr. Rogers, Charles Manson, or John Kerry. So the fact that they put âWâ in it sort of dilutes itâs strength, unless they could make the same, or similar mosaic from unaltered images.
10/29/2004 12:47:02 PM · #10
Originally posted by G4Ds:

Now this is in no way me pushing politics or views on you. I just thought is was one of the most visually stong images I have seen in the campaigning so far. I have no opinoin to push here. I am just sharing a strong image.


Originally posted by G4Ds:

Sorry. Didn't mean to say the image or the mosaic in particular was strong or great photographically. I meant the message passed with the use of the mosaic was a strong message.


First you say its "one of the most visually stong images", then you say you didn't mean to say the "image ... in particular was strong".

First you say you're not "pushing politics or views", then you say that you meant that the "message passed ... was a strong message". And what is that message? Wouldn't it be a view? And a very politically charged view at that.

Interesting. Very Kerry-esque. It is, but it isn't. I did, but I didn't. I do, but I don't. I will, but I won't.

And before I get accused of setting an oppressive "political tone", feel free to post this and any other politically motivated image. I'm just tired of the classic liberal move of feigning impartiality while pursuing an agenda.

Would it be any less of a "strong image" or "strong message" (whichever it was you really meant) to build a mosaic of a picture of Kerry made up of all the Vietnam POWs who had to endure the torture of listening to his anti-American protesting while they were being held by the North, then had to return to the hatred of the anti-war activists?
10/29/2004 01:03:56 PM · #11
Originally posted by TomFoolery:

I agree with RonB, you could make any face a mosaic with messing with the color and tint of each individual image...Mr. Rogers, Charles Manson, or John Kerry. So the fact that they put âWâ in it sort of dilutes itâs strength, unless they could make the same, or similar mosaic from unaltered images.


I'm sorry but it's rediculous to say that having a Mr. Rogers face of 1000 dead soldiers would be just as strong. They have nothing to do with each other. A face of "W" however, does have direct linking to 1000 dead soldiers. I'm really quite offended that you'd want 'unalatered' images. Meaning tens of thousands more would have to die before the mosaic you propose would even be possible. Isn't 1000 enough??
10/29/2004 03:10:12 PM · #12
I really don't see how it loses strength since it could be 'anyone'. The author / artist made due with what (s)he had... 1000 dead soldiers.

Calm down. I didn't mean to imply that you wanted more people dead to create a more moving image. I was simply trying to demonstrate that it's ludicrous to think that just because the images were altered that it loses it's strength.
10/29/2004 05:39:42 PM · #13
Originally posted by MadMordegon:

Ever read this Scott? //www.madmordegon.com/03/whitehouse_wmd_lies.htm

Get down off your high horse.


Still haveing trouble keeping on track? What's that got to do with this conversation? Did the NYT use a mosaic in the story?

Message edited by author 2004-10-29 17:40:43.
10/29/2004 05:42:32 PM · #14
I've had enough of warning people. Two posts have been removed from this thread for personal attacks.

From now on I am not wasting my time editing out personal attacks. If you make a personal attack in a post, the entire post will be removed. The only exception will be if removing the post will make the posts after that impossible to follow... in that case I will edit to preserve the flow of the thread.

If you wish to participate, please do so in a civil manner.

-Terry

Message edited by author 2004-10-29 17:42:45.
10/29/2004 11:42:17 PM · #15
I would like to meet the person who created the image. If anyone can help me find the who did that I would like to get in contact with him/her.

Thank you.
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