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 10/26/2004 01:14:01 PM · #1
60 MINS PLANNED BUSH MISSING EXPLOSIVES STORY FOR ELECTION EVE

No, there is no liberal media nor is there a connection to the Kerry compaign. I'm sure CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC and John Kerry all brought up this topic on the same day by happen-stance; even though the story was actualy reported in 2003 ON TOP OF THE FACT THAT THEY WERE MISSING BEFORE WE EVEN GOT THERE...

But to hell with ethics as long as Kerry gets re-elected.

STORY HERE
 10/26/2004 01:31:03 PM · #2
thats funny,
isn't sinclair doing the same thing?
hmm, I must be mistaken.

Oh!
that's right!!
380 tons of explosives were discovered missing!
right before the elections!
(John Kerry and his liberal friends are behind it)

I wonder if they are the same explosives being used to kill American troops?

Late Sunday, the New York Times reported that nearly 760,000 pounds of the explosive compounds HMX and RDX had disappeared from Saddam Hussein's al-Qaqaa weapons depot -- even though the United States had known that the site contained vast amounts of the high-tech explosives. American officials could not explain why they failed to guard the depot.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan pointed to the "more than 243,000 [tons of] munitions" already destroyed by U.S. forces. "The sites now are really ... the responsibility of the Iraqi forces," he added.

A report that the Bush administration will seek another $70 billion next year for Iraq and Afghanistan, bringing the total cost of the war to nearly $225 billion. Just a few weeks ago, Republicans -- and independent fact-checkers -- took Kerry to task for claiming that the war in Iraq had cost $200 billion already when the amount spent to date was actually lower; with Bush's new request, $200 billion will soon be in the rear-view mirror.

Message edited by author 2004-10-26 13:41:45.
 10/26/2004 02:31:21 PM · #3
Yes, what CBS was planning on doing is just as repulsive as Michael Moore, Sinclair, the Swift Boat crew and a lot of the posting that goes on here.

10/26/2004 02:39:04 PM · #4
I would say it's unfair to compair yet another 60 minute conspiracy to either the swift boat vets or Michael moore (as much as I disagree with him).

MM, Swift vets for truth and many others are just putting their spin out there and they are truthfull about what they are and thei goals.

These "news" media outlets are claiming to be unbiased and fair, yet are obviously working with the Kerry compaign to get him reelected. Thats fine if they are, but be truthful about it. This goes WAY beyond just being biased in reporting, this is unethical as far as reporting standards go...

The munitons that are missing are gone because Saddam kicked us out of the country. These could have been taken weeks or months before we even attacked. Nothing we could have done would have stopped this from happening. But alas, it's the seriousness of the charge, not it's validity that matters these days (on both sides).
 10/26/2004 02:43:00 PM · #5
Originally posted by Russell2566:
I would say it's unfair to compair yet another 60 minute conspiracy to either the swift boat vets or Michael moore (as much as I disagree with him).

MM, Swift vets for truth and many others are just putting their spin out there and they are truthfull about what they are and thei goals.

These "news" media outlets are claiming to be unbiased and fair, yet are obviously working with the Kerry compaign to get him reelected. Thats fine if they are, but be truthful about it. This goes WAY beyond just being biased in reporting, this is unethical as far as reporting standards go...

The munitons that are missing are gone because Saddam kicked us out of the country. These could have been taken weeks or months before we even attacked. Nothing we could have done would have stopped this from happening. But alas, it's the seriousness of the charge, not it's validity that matters these days (on both sides).


Are you completely blind? HELLO?!? What about the right wing media giant SINCLAIR??? THAT is unethical as far as YOU are concerned, right?
 10/26/2004 02:45:03 PM · #6
Good job 60 minutes, let's all work together to kick the village idiot out of the White House. A little town in Texas needs him back.



Message edited by author 2004-10-26 14:45:20.
 10/26/2004 02:55:00 PM · #7
Sinclair is giving equal airing time to the opposit view that others are not AND they invited JK or a rep to rebutt, they denined.

I think it's only fair and I hope they do continue on with their effort to air the video. It's amazing how hard the liberal media is fighting to stop airing a different view.

EDIT:

Do us all a favor and grow up a little, your post was not required, desired or appropriate.

Also: Just because someone else does something wrong, doesn't mean you can too. Even 5 year olds know that!

Message edited by author 2004-10-26 14:57:07.
 10/26/2004 02:57:48 PM · #8
Originally posted by Russell2566:
Sinclair is giving equal airing time to the opposit view that others are not AND they invited JK or a rep to rebutt, they denined.

I think it's only fair and I hope they do continue on with their effort to air the video. It's amazing how hard the liberal media is fighting to stop airing a different view.


You sound like a flip flopper, just like John Kerry and the whole entire Bush administation! On one hand, you say:
"these "news" media outlets are claiming to be unbiased and fair, yet are obviously working with the Kerry compaign to get him reelected. Thats fine if they are, but be truthful about it. This goes WAY beyond just being biased in reporting, this is unethical as far as reporting standards go... "

On the other hand you say:
"I think it's only fair and I hope they (sinclair) do continue on with their effort to air the video. It's amazing how hard the liberal media is fighting to stop airing a different view."

Doesn't seem you really know what you want. Must be why your voting for Bush?



Message edited by author 2004-10-26 14:58:33.
 10/26/2004 03:03:09 PM · #9
Originally posted by ericlimon:


Are you completely blind? HELLO?!? What about the right wing media giant SINCLAIR??? THAT is unethical as far as YOU are concerned, right?


That just balances out all the injustices perputrated by the liberal mass media. As a result it is the only fair and balanced thing to do.
 10/26/2004 03:41:34 PM · #10
First off, I am not a Democrat, Republican, Liberal or Conservative. I'm not standing up for either side with this post. I have problems with both candidates and will probably end up choosing the one I think will hurt our country the least. Crappy way to decide your vote, ain't it?

You know, when I first heard this story, I thought "Wow. What happened? What are the specifics." I was disappointed with Kerry for banging the drum loudly on this without getting all the facts. When I heard that the stuff was gone before we even got there, I was even angry. I'm still hopeful that he will stop using this information incorrectly.

Now, all I hear is how 60 Minutes was going to do a story on it two days before the elections in an effort to get people to vote against Bush. Does anyone who says this have an inside with 60 Minutes? You are all assuming that they would blame Bush. How do you know they were not planning on telling everything including the fact that the stuff was gone before we got there?

Oh, I forgot. The liberal media would lie any time they want to get their way. BOVINE-FECES. If you don't stop your biased ranting and look at facts before you start screaming bloody murder (both sides) what makes you any better than politicians who bend the truth?

To hear all the biased ranting you would think that all the Republicans are greedy, rich, racist, snobs that hate the average American, and that all Democrats are weak-sister, lie-to-get-your-way, haters of big business and the average American. Guess what? It is not true. Most people care about their country and only differ in how they think we should go about retaining our uniqueness and greatness.

But then, what do I know? According to Rush Limbaugh, a moderate is either a Republican who believes in a woman's right to choose or an idiot who can't come up with a stand unless it's forced down their throat by the latest poll (yes, I actually heard him say that on one of his radio shows). The truth is, a moderate is someone who sees good in positions of both sides and tries to stand up for what they believe in, in the face of ridicule by extremists.

It's good that we can all air our differences and try to show other where we think the best (notice I did not say correct) path is. But try to respect that, just because someone disagrees with you, it doesn't mean they (or you) are idiots.

drg
 10/26/2004 05:04:38 PM · #11
News should be news,doesn't matter who is in it.

Here is another BBC story !

Message edited by author 2004-10-26 17:05:02.
 10/26/2004 06:06:58 PM · #12
I know I'm drifting into the paranoid realms recently reserved for the left, but something is a bit fishy to me about this.

First, Kerry made the following statement during the first debate, which was a new bit of "dirt" to me, though maybe the conspiracy theorists were familiar with it:

The only building that was guarded when the troops went into Baghdad was the Oil Ministry.

Then he expanded on this in the second debate with the following:

The President did not do what was necessary -- didn't bring in enough nations, didn't deliver the help, didn't close off the borders, didn't even guard the ammo dumps.

Neither of these statements seemed to get any play in the followup coverage of the debates, but they stuck in my mind as something new, something unsubstantiated. Yet there was no discussion, so I passed it off as another Kerry truth-twisting, like the "...we had Osama bin Laden cornered in the mountains of Tora Bora..." assertion, which has been refuted by FactCheck.org and others.

Now, out of the blue, just a week before the election, we have the "news" that some huge cache of explosives is missing. Of course, for most voters, that's about as deep into the story as they'll get, at least before the election - an effective "October Surprise". Yet, obviously, Kerry had a foreshadowing of this story during the debates. Coincidence? Hmmmm. (Or maybe, just like John Edwards was able to channel the spirits of dead children during his multi-million dollar court cases, John Kerry has been granted the gift of clairvoiance.)

But how new is this news? Well, for starters, lets look at some background. The following is the lead-in of the CNN story on the explosives:

NBC News reported that on April 10, 2003, its crew was embedded with the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division when troops arrived at the Al Qaqaa storage facility south of Baghdad.

While the troops found large stockpiles of conventional explosives, they did not find HMX or RDX, the types of powerful explosives that reportedly went missing, according to NBC.

The International Atomic Energy Agency revealed Monday that it had been told two weeks ago by the Iraqi government that 380 tons of HMX and RDX disappeared from Al Qaqaa after Saddam Hussein's government fell.

And about one-thrid of the way through that report is a link to a story dated Oct. 12th (that's over two weeks ago), which in turn has the following bit of info:

According to an October 1 letter from IAEA Director-General Mohamed ElBaradei to the U.N. Security Council, satellite imagery showed that not only was dual-use equipment missing, but buildings that once housed it had been dismantled.

So NBC knew about this a year and a half ago.

And even in its current "form", this story has been floating around since October 1 (anybody recall the date of the first presidential debate, where Kerry first hinted at this issue?), and there have even been stories put out that are over two weeks old but apparently were allowed to lie dormant.

Then, in the last week of the election, this non-story becomes front page headlines. 60 Minutes is going to feature it less than two days before the polls open. Kerry picks up with in and runs full speed ahead. Hmmmm. And still seven more days for Kerry's minions to work their magic.

Message edited by author 2004-10-26 18:10:33.
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