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10/22/2004 11:06:04 PM · #76 |
Originally posted by myamIajerkqyl:
Originally posted by frychikn:
All I am going to say to you is I am filing an official complaint with the site council (yeah, like it will do any good!) over your butchering of my user-name in your reply. I have no use for hateful, no-class people like you. |
I've read and reread my post several times and I'm amazed you found it offensive... But after reading other threads you've been in and comments you've made, I think I understand...
Have a nice life :) |
Do you find this reply offensive? |
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10/23/2004 12:31:08 AM · #77 |
Originally posted by frychikn:
Originally posted by myamIajerkqyl:
Originally posted by frychikn:
All I am going to say to you is I am filing an official complaint with the site council (yeah, like it will do any good!) over your butchering of my user-name in your reply. I have no use for hateful, no-class people like you. |
I've read and reread my post several times and I'm amazed you found it offensive... But after reading other threads you've been in and comments you've made, I think I understand...
Have a nice life :) |
Do you find this reply offensive? |
Ummm, no... Not in the slightist... It's off topic, but offensive? What am I missing?
Edit : Roflmao!!! I see it now... Sorry, I didn't realize until 10 seconds ago that iespell changed your name in the quote :) It changed my name too... When I said I altered your post in spell check, I was referring to "perposterous" & "implicataion" ... I truly regret that your name got mangled in the spellcheck... I was seriously apologizing for changing the spelling of those two words as I don't like to misquote people...
Sorry for the misunderstanding...
Any chance you could answer my question now about where in my first post did I make a " perposterous party-line implicataion that the United States never shows such kindness to other nations and that its citizens should feel guilty over Canada's offer of help." and just which party you are inferring I belong to?
Again, sorry about the misunderstanding... I'm trying to have a discussion, not an arguement... As hard as that is to believe, it's true...
Message edited by author 2004-10-23 00:39:57.
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10/23/2004 03:44:17 PM · #78 |
| OK, I see what happened; it was the spell-checker, not you, which turned my user-id into something not very nice. I accept your apology and I apologize myself for kind of over-reacting. I will answer your question, but later, right now I just have to go back outside and enjoy what is probably Chicago's last 70-degree day of the year. |
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10/24/2004 10:01:25 AM · #79 |
Originally posted by myqyl:
Originally posted by frychikn:
Originally posted by myqyl:
Sorry folks :( All I meant to do was thank a neighbor for being neighborly... I should have known the thread would invoke those that believe that good relations with other nations is somehow unpatriotic... It's truly sad that some Americans believe that being rude is patriotic and that thanking another nation for their kindness is Unamerican... I wonder what the founders would think of their behavior... |
The thanking of the other nation is great. Canada deserves to be thanked. The objections to your post were NOT objections to having good relations with Canada or any other nation, the objections were to your preposterous party-line implication that the United States never shows such kindness to other nations and that its citizens should feel guilty over Canada's offer of help. |
Um, wait a second... My original post was :
Originally posted by myqyl:
Once again Canada has shown it's true colors... With America's respect around the world understandably at it's lowest point in memory, when we are in trouble we still have the best friend any nation could hope for. To offer surplus flu vaccinations to us is the truest sign that Canada is the kind of nation Americans wish we could be.
My heartfelt thanks :) |
Could you please point out the "preposterous party-line implication that the United States never shows such kindness to other nations and that its citizens should feel guilty over Canada's offer of help."? What "Party" do you suppose I belong to? I'm not trying to throw gas on the fire here, I just want to know where in my post I said the things you quoted me as saying... I'm also interested in which party I belong to since I've never been able to figure that out :) If I'm toting a party line by being polite enough to thank someone, maybe I've found a party I could bring myself to join... It certainly doesn't sound like any party I've read the platform of yet... I'm seeking enlightenment, not an argument. Please take no offense if somewhere in this, I have inadvertently said something else bad about Americans (of which I am proudly one).
Edit : I accidentally corrected your spelling during a spell check... I hope it didn't alter your meaning in any way... |
OK, here is my answer.
In your original post (none of which I directly quoted) you stated that "To offer surplus flu vaccinations to us is the truest sign that Canada is the kind of nation Americans wish we could be." To me, this implies that you consider Canada to be somewhat "kinder" and "morally superior" to the US, and that Americans can only wish to be as "good".
Then, in your follow-up, you stated that "All I meant to do was thank a neighbor for being neighborly". If that was all you wanted to do, you should have left out the self-righteous preaching. THAT is what other posters objected to, not the thanking of Canada. The posters disagreeing with you for the most part went to great lengths to point out that they were NOT anti-Canada. I recall only one dissenting poster who was actually critical of Canada, referring to Canada as a socialist country. Then comes the self-righteous "I should have known..." and "It's really sad...", etc." I don't really see any posters on this thread saying (or even implying) that having good relations with other countries is unpatriotic, thanking another nation is un-American, etc., as you have charged. My "preposterous party-line implication" was an admittedly knee-jerk reaction to yet another in a depressingly long line of political threads following this same type of pattern:
1 - Poster posts self-righteous preaching knowing objections will follow
2 - Other posters object
3 - Poster uses objections as vehicle for more self-righteous preaching (I should have known, etc.)
One other thing, in your second post you state "I wonder what the founders [of the US] would think of their behavior?" I wonder what the founders would think of an American saying "Canada is the kind of nation Americans wish we could be"?
I, along with a whole lot of other people, really dislike being included in the 'we' of someone we do not know, especially a self-deprecating 'we' like this one.
OK, now that I have answered your question, I would like you to return the favor and answer this question, namely, what did you mean by this:
" I've read and reread my post several times and I'm amazed you found it offensive... But after reading other threads you've been in and comments you've made, I think I understand...
Have a nice life :) "
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10/24/2004 06:55:03 PM · #80 |
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10/24/2004 08:05:10 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by frychikn:
OK, now that I have answered your question, I would like you to return the favor and answer this question, namely, what did you mean by this:
" I've read and reread my post several times and I'm amazed you found it offensive... But after reading other threads you've been in and comments you've made, I think I understand...
Have a nice life :) " |
Sure :) But first I want to assure you I mean nothing personal, and I would defend your right to free speech with every bit as much energy as I would defend my own...
When I looked at your profile, I noticed that every post you've made that I could see was in the "Rant" category, except one. This gave me the (possibly mistaken) impression that you are more of a confrontational poster than most folks...
Also, the one post that was not a rant is you saying, "Only if the resident DPC leftist crybabies bitched and whined about it." This led me to believe (again, possibly mistakenly) that you have a specific, ingrained bias and will find offense in any post that doesn't conform to your bias.
Lastly, I saw that you expressed your opinions in comments in a somewhat hostile (to me) way for photos you didn't like or agree with, and that on at least one occasion, you argued with someone about a comment. I'm not saying it was unjustified, but just that it was confrontational...
I've been around the internet since before it was called that and have learned (probably mistakenly) to classify some posters as confrontational and I avoid arguing with them... I prefer to discuss issues with open minded people willing to listen to a variety of opinions... Your "I have no use for hateful, no-class people like you." comment made me (almost certainly mistakenly) heap you into that pile. Upon reflection I can see that I was likely wrong and will not just ignore what you say as I do with closed minded folks... Sorry about the rush to judgment.
As to my original post, I wasn't implying anything more than the fact that American should aspire to better itself at all times. No one in the last 2000 years has been perfect and we should always look to the admirable actions of others as a good example we should follow :)
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